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SLIMMERKIWI SparkPoints: (256,465)
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4/28/13 12:11 A

I have been thinking about your original post and something kept bugging me, then it struck me:

"BTW this is my 7th time sparkin, I never seem to stay long enough ..."

I am wondering if with the other times you were here but didn't stay, did you suddenly decide to try 'this diet', or 'that diet', or 'give up' certain foods?

If so, this could be why you are coming back. It could be that you are depriving yourself things that you enjoy, and that isn't really what this is about. It is about balance and good portion control.

The other thing that struck me was this:

" and try to bring my soon to be daughter-in-law closer by having more things in common than not. Its weird what mother-in-laws endure, ..." I am not knocking your various reasons for going vegan or whatever form of vegetarianism you are choosing, but would respectfully suggest that the above reason isn't a wise one.


SIMPLELIFE2 Posts: 707
4/27/13 11:13 P

"I am not giving up seafood" Then you aren't really a vegan. Vegans don't consume or wear products from animals. This includes not eating honey or gelatin or wearing leather or wool. Believe me, if you tell a vegan that you eat seafood, many will get riled up.

I've been a vegetarian for more than 10 years. Initially, I included dairy and eggs but no seafood. I used dairy a lot for protein. In the past year, I gave up the dairy (infrequent cheats for cheese or ice cream) and added seafood and kept eggs. The balance is working out much better for me. So, technically, I'm a pesce-, ovo-vegetarian. You would be a pescatarian. And some people will argue that those who eat seafood aren't even vegetarians.

I'm not sure why you would have low energy. Short-term that comes much more from carbs than protein. I do take a multivitamin with high levels of B vitamins to keep on top of that but it would take more than a day or weeks even to develop a deficiency. Since you aren't doing this for ethical reasons, I would ease into it more slowly to allow your body do adapt.

However, I'm not sure this will bring you closer with your future DIL, especially if your "secret" plan is to get her to eat healthier in preparation for birthing your grandchildren. There are lots of benefits to not eating red meat, pork or chicken. The focus should be your own health and well-being.

4/27/13 6:28 P

"The foods you are planning on eliminating contain some extremely important nutrients that you can't really get other ways other than supplements."

You can get all the nutrients you need without supplements. I have been a vegetarian for 20 years and try my darnedest to be vegan (but sometimes fail).

There are many websites out there that can help you avid the pitfalls that often cause people trouble when they first become vegans. Do research. Allow yourself to mess up every once in a while. You'll be fine.

HERE_ONCE_AGAIN SparkPoints: (792)
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4/27/13 4:28 P

Its true, going Vegan all at once is extreme. I see that now. I appreciate everyone's input and advice.

I have to say though, I feel so much better eliminating red meat and eggs. I had curry chicken 3 in the morning. Can't sleep.

Awesome thing was said from my kids. One of them prefers this way of eating and hope I continue to make these types of foods. My old habits would totally tire him out, he said "I dont feel tired after eating" I too don't feel as sluggish. I mean we take naps, but not since I made some changes in my cooking. P.S. I stopped frying food almost completely

ANARIE Posts: 13,204
4/27/13 12:53 P

I think you may have put things backward. You decided to go vegan and then do research. It might be better to go vegetarian, do your research for a while, and THEN decide if you want to go vegan for sure. That way you'll be able to do it in a healthy way from the very beginning, instead of possibly harming your health in the learning process. And certainly along the way you can collect and test out vegan recipes to slowly substitute for the ones you use now.

It's easy to be a healthy vegetarian. It's NOT easy to be a healthy vegan. It takes a lot of knowledge. Think hard about doing the easy part first and then gradually easing into veganism when you know for sure that you can do it safely. Telling your DIL that you're going vegetarian because of her influence will be a step in approaching her, and then you can get closer gradually as you share new information. Definitely you can make your new healthy vegan recipes any time you share a meal with her.

4/27/13 8:20 A

Absolutely do your research and check out the vegan teams. And then just relax. You'll learn a lot by trial and error and that's okay. Just make changes as you gain more working knowledge of what it is to be vegan.

Best of luck to you!

CMCOLE Posts: 2,667
4/27/13 6:07 A

Good suggestions.
Definitely do your research and sit down with pen and paper, if you have to, to plan out things, and make sure you're getting the proper nutrition balance.

As you say, you want to be a positive influence, so this is definitely where to start - educate yourself, and you can share with others. If you don't know the goals, or the path to get there; it's very difficult to lead others down the road.

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4/27/13 5:05 A

I think that you would be best advised to ask for a referral to a Dietitian to ensure that you get the nutrients that you need. The foods you are planning on eliminating contain some extremely important nutrients that you can't really get other ways other than supplements, BUT the supplements should be prescribed based on your needs, rather than assumption.


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4/26/13 7:28 P

A great way to up your protien and give you some more calories on a Vegan diet is add seeds...hemp, chia, flax. If you are not gluten sensitive then add vital wheat gluten to things (like if you make your own meat substitutes).

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4/25/13 4:12 P

I'd recommend checking out the vegan SparkTeams:

Tons of folks there who can help!

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4/25/13 3:05 P

I decided overnight to become Vegan for so many reasons, health, pain management and try to bring my soon to be daughter-in-law closer by having more things in common than not. Its weird what mother-in-laws endure, turns out she is an unhealthy Vegan maybe I can bring her over to a more nutritional way of eating. I was thinking long term for future gran babies God willing. Anyway so I add the food, BTW this is my 7th time sparkin, I never seem to stay long enough but I came back to track. I certainly am undernourished to day. DAY 1. I have spurts of energy but not enough. I see protien is way too low. I am not giving up seafood just dairy, eggs, meat and poultry.
Ialways have this problem not getting the calories they say.

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