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YOJULEZ SparkPoints: (15,981)
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6/30/13 11:36 A

Russell, I'm one of those people who did used to eat huge portion sizes but now eat small ones, and I DO have the willpower to not binge. So, it is possible and not just BS... I mean I haven't been maintaining more than 6 or so months, but I don't see things changing. Once I've decided to do something, no matter what it is, that's it, my mind is set. I'm stubborn :) But I was also never much of a yo-yo dieter or had weight issues my whole life, so maybe that has something to do with it too.... I only became obese in my late 20s.

I know your diet works really well for you, we've had "chats" about it before :) But, for many people, a severely limited diet doesn't work... "forbidden" foods don't work. That's why many "diets" fail once someone stops eating that way. Learning how to eat in moderation is a huge lesson that someone who is just starting out needs to learn. It teaches how to make good choices and limit portions even when presented with not so great options (which happens to me pretty often).

Edited by: YOJULEZ at: 6/30/2013 (11:37)
RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
6/30/13 10:10 A

If it isn't on your acceptable foods list, then donate it to a food pantry.

It seems that you believe this is the food that made you fat, so why would you eat it in moderation? Some of us believe the food is fine. I eat low carb, so the meat would be great for me. However, what matters is what you think, not any of us. If you think you can eat in in moderation, without just cooking up the rest, and gorging on it, then by all means, do so. If however, you think that you will eat an entire bag of fries as a snack, and then be hungry 2 hours later, get it out of the house.

I got rid of everything when I started. If I had been able to resist it, and eat in moderation, I would never have been morbidly obese. The thought that I could now control it was laughable. I have yet to meet a person who just didn't know before that the food they were eating was bad for them, and all they had to do was limit portion size. They tried for decades, and failed. Still some people say they can all of a sudden have willpower. They are very lucky people, but I think most are just fooling themselves, and hoping things will end up differently than the past 10-20 years did.

NANLEYKW SparkPoints: (76,244)
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6/29/13 4:17 P

I want to add that I read Anarie's definition of wasting food for the first time a little while ago, and it really changed the way I think about "wasting." Once it's mine--either bought in a store or served on my plate in a restaurant, it's already "used." It's not any more wasteful to leave half the rice on my plate in a restaurant than it is to finish eating it when I'm already full. Another example--we just bought a box of sugar cookies for the kids the other day. They had eaten most of them over the course of a few days, but there was one left over. I considered eating it "so it wouldn't go to waste," but then realized that way, I would be wasting not only the food, but also the available calories for myself for that day. So I threw it out.

Just another way to think about it that I found immensely helpful.

LOUNMOUN Posts: 1,334
6/29/13 10:02 A

I would eat it in moderation or give it away. I would not eat those foods every meal, every day but you can eat them sometimes in sensible portions.
I would throw it away if it is something you don't want to eat and can't give it away. I don't like throwing away food but absolutely would if it kept me from having space for healthy food.

MICHELLEXXXX SparkPoints: (12,338)
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6/29/13 5:43 A

I think I would try to donate it.

ANARIE Posts: 13,205
6/29/13 1:03 A

There's another way to think about it.

Eating food your body doesn't need is just a different way of wasting it. Waste doesn't happen in your home; it happens in the store. The second you buy something, it's no longer available to anyone else. If it's healthy and it nourishes your body, then it's useful. If it's unhealthy and damages your body, then you're wasting a lot of things-- the money you spent to buy it, the food that can't go to someone who needs it, and the value of your health.

I would keep the lamb sausage, and maybe the other sausage, and use them in very small amounts as the other posters have said. But frozen french fries? Really? How much did those cost, a dollar or two? You're worth more than that. That's a perfect example of a low-value food that was wasted by buying it; putting it in the trash can is less of a waste than messing up your body with it. The same with the fish sticks. Yes, you could eat a tiny bit and it wouldn't be so bad for you, but is it worth it? Do you LOVE fish sticks so much that you would rather eat them than something healthier?

Never eat junk food that you don't absolutely love.

Remember, that food is already wasted. Now it's up to you to decide whether to throw good (health) money after bad. I would say keep the foods you really love, but cut your losses on the cheap oiled potatoes and the breaded fish.

DROPCONE Posts: 1,592
6/28/13 6:40 P

I agree with others to incorporate the food into your eating plan. If the lamb sausage is in a big chunk, make a large recipe with it then freeze the result in single-serve portions. With the pasties, what I'd probably do is eat one for two meals. Cook it, eat half, eat the rest the next day for lunch. That way I've got room in my meal for some veggies and won't get bloated from eating too much at once.

Edited by: DROPCONE at: 6/28/2013 (18:40)
NIRERIN Posts: 14,327
6/28/13 6:20 P

i agree that incorporating them is the way to go. try and make sure you are pairing each serving with at least one serving of veg. so for the pasties you could do sort of succotash with corn, peppers, tomatoes, lima beans and a little salsa. or just have them with a simple garden salad. i like the sausage and eggs idea, but would say to make sure you add something like kale or peppers to your omelet. sauteeing sausage, wilting in kale/any dark leafy green and mixing in white beans is also quite tasty, particularly if you are starting with a flavorful sausage. or if you like sausage and applesauce, have that or plain apples. have asparagus with your fish sticks. have your french fries with a roast and other roast vegetables.

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (61,458)
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6/28/13 3:29 P

You can send those pasties to me... I LOVE pasties. (I have to go to the British Pantry to get them, and they're still not homemade!)


Enjoy them. You're not a garbage can, and you shouldn't treat yourself as such. Eat the food, track the food, and don't fret over it. You don't have to avoid all the unhealthy stuff in the world!

TINYRN2011 SparkPoints: (20,569)
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6/28/13 1:48 P

Thanks for such helpful information!

YOJULEZ SparkPoints: (15,981)
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6/28/13 1:20 P

I still eat sausage and french fries :) There's nothing inherently wrong with them like MEG said... it's when we eat 4 servings at a time that it becomes a problem. You could put the fish sticks on top of a salad. Take ONE of the sausages patties and cook it up and mix it up with eggs for a breakfast. With the lamb sausage, you could make something like this:
, just replace the chorizo with the lamb sausage. I think it would reheat very well as leftovers and I don't think it would be that high in calorie. I would turn it into 4 servings, and maybe add another veggie in there like broccoli to bulk it up. Once it's 4 servings, you'll actually only be eating around 1/2 to 3/4 cup of the rice.

Most frozen french fry servings are like 120-150 calories as long as you bake them... not bad at all! You can use that one serving as a side to a healthier protein like grilled or baked chicken and a huge pile of veggies. Maybe make a honey mustard dipping sauce with dijon mustard and a bit of honey.

For the pasties (I've never seen a healthy version of those unfortunately), what about making them all up and then handing them out to homeless folks? That way you're not eating them, and they're not going to waste either.

Edited by: YOJULEZ at: 6/28/2013 (13:20)
CORTNEY-LEE SparkPoints: (67,852)
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6/28/13 1:05 P

Yup - moderation is the key!

Bake the french fries and fish sticks instead of frying them, and that will help out a lot too. Instead of the sausage being the main focus of a meal, allow it to be more of a compliment. Use 1 link (or small bit) to flavor a large portion of stir fried veggies.

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6/28/13 1:00 P

Like the PP said, work in what you have into your new healthy eating plan. None of the things you listed are terrible for you in moderation. For the sausage, I like to cook it with peppers and tomatoes, drain of the grease as best I can and serve it over pasta.

MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
6/28/13 12:54 P

You don't have to eat ZOMG100%HEALTHY all the time - in fact, that would be a recipe for failure for some of us because we'll either fall off the wagon the second we're in the presence of unhealthy stuff, or we would decide the whole thing isn't sustainable and forgo healthy eating entirely.

Don't just "eat it to get rid of it" - that's no better than throwing it away. Plan it in to your day like anything else. Measure it and track it and decide what else to eat with it. Have a serving of fishsticks, but serve it maybe with lemon instead of mayo, and plenty of greens alongside. Or take the time to measure out a single serving of french fries (generally a serving won't be bad - it's when we pile on a bunch of servings and call it "a serving") and eat it within your calorie ranges. If you then find that the calories aren't really worth it, don't replace it the next time you shop.

TINYRN2011 SparkPoints: (20,569)
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6/28/13 12:41 P

Good morning!

I joined SP about 5 days ago. I've been doing well so far, but I have a major problem.

There's a bunch of frozen things in my fridge that I don't know how to get rid of! I CANNOT throw food out; it just won't happen. Here's what I have:

beef pasties (home made from my mom)
lamb sausage
sausage patties
fish sticks
french fries
(wow, I feel awful just writing that all down!)

Should I just eat one every day until they are gone?

I'm single, don't cook much and don't normally have people over. They are taking up space, and I want to begin cooking healthy and need room to store the healthy things!

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

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