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GAILMCLA SparkPoints: (686)
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10/11/12 1:40 P

I'm so glad to find this forum. I just started ETL and I'm having fun looking through the book and figuring out what I need to buy/cook. My dh is a carnivore, so I have to add meat/fish/chicken to his meal. Luckily, he likes soups and stews with beans, etc. I have to stock up on frozen fruits and veggies as I'm not near any major grocery stores and most of the farmers markets have stopped til spring. I'll be here often, thank you. Gail

ALGEBRAGIRL Posts: 1,925
8/5/12 10:15 A

You just did something that worked - and losing 6 pounds in a few days points out the source of the problem: water weight. A person doesn't drop that much weight in a week, even, without water retention being the source of the problem. If you doubt that, talk to your doctor.

Eating just what your described is not going to make you gain weight. The dressings and fat (oil, butter) are what loads on calories. If you watch that, you'll be fine! When I eat a lot of veggies (WW), I tend to add salt to flavor, and I add too much. If I'm not losing weight, I watch that (no salt is too bland, so I just reduce the salt), and it resolves the problem.

GMLYNCH SparkPoints: (0)
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8/4/12 9:59 P

I agree. I had a doctor, he was an endocrinologist, and he told me that my low calorie wasn't working for me. I was told to cut more calories. I have hypothyroidism, and at the time this jerk wouldn't pay attention to what I was saying. The laboratory tests came back very low thyroid levels. I was right, he was wrong. A doctor should listen to their patient's concerns. The tests are not always the proper tools either. A doctor must go by symptoms when it comes to endocrine disorders. 900 Calories is way too low. You also could be losing muscle mass, because you are not getting the proper amount of quality protein at your meals. If your a veggie, then you need to balance out your diet to get complete proteins from your meals.

VEGANVICTORY SparkPoints: (0)
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4/11/12 3:16 P

I wanted to pop in here and mention that drastic changes in diet can be incredibly jarring on your GI system.

*Especially* if you are not used to ingesting a large amount of plant matter. I know quite a few folks who follow the ETL program, and the most common complaint at the beginning was GI issues such as bloating, cramping, not so happy bathroom moments.

Do make sure you are getting enough variety in your veggie choices. And to echo everyone else: 1200 calories a day is the bare minimum someone my size (5'0) needs to function at a sedentary level. Under-eating can be just as detrimental to weight loss as over eating.

Edited by: VEGANVICTORY at: 4/11/2012 (15:16)
RYOKOSITH Posts: 161
4/11/12 3:06 P

I'm glad you figured out what wasn't working for you.

Now that there is movement, keep tracking and paying attention to how your body reacts to what you're doing. Also, make sure to schedule follow-up appointments with your doctor if just so you can have lab work run to ensure everything is going in the direction you expect it to. Helps for allowing you to see if you need to make any further adjustments.

If you think you're going insulin insensitive and was on the road to becoming a diabetic, see if you can get access to a machine to measure your blood glucose every so often, again for tracking purposes. I wasn't yet diagnosed as "prediabetic" by my doctor, but I was throwing some fasting blood sugar numbers above the clinical test range for normal on a consistent basis. One of my family members is diabetic and every couple of weeks I'll borrow their equipment to test myself (always fasting and generally around the same time of day). Because I was doing this, it allowed me to see if the changes I made were bringing down that number (and it did come down).

DEE0973 Posts: 1,517
4/11/12 2:32 P

Good luck, I pray you will be able to sustain this with your activity schedule.

DONNA_W SparkPoints: (89,638)
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4/11/12 1:17 P

Well after just a couple of days in limiting the fruit choices to berries and other low sugar fruit, I lost 6 lbs. probably all water. Now I'm trying to stick to 1200 cal, at least 60 gm protein and less than 120 total carbs, and less than 80 non-fiber carbs.


DONNA_W SparkPoints: (89,638)
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4/9/12 9:25 A

I think I've figured out the problem. One of the reasons I decided to try this diet was to get my cholesterol, trig and HbgA1c in healthy ranges. According to lab results I am on the edge of being insulin resistant. . Ever since I started ETL. my daily carbs have gone up. I did not think too much of it because of all the vegetables. But looking at it again, I realized with all the fruit choices my sugar intake has gone up. So I'm going to adjust the diet and only eat low sugar fruit like raspberries & blueberries mostly.

Also, my original tracking was set to 1200-1400 cal per day and the doc suggested I try 1100 not 900, but since doing ETL I've been around 1000 as I said. So this week I'm going to try and keep carbs less than 120/day and focus on low sugar carbs. I'll let you know how it goes.

4/9/12 4:27 A

I eat, live by and love Furhman's ETL program, so I too am perplexed as to why you are gaining weight. If you are indeed following the guidelines AND tracking your food accurately, there is no reason for this. Perhaps revisit the way in which you are measuring/tracking????

And I agree with other folks--something is wrong if a doc has told you to consume only 900 cals/day. Time to find a new physician!

SUMSUMS SparkPoints: (14,846)
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4/9/12 3:18 A

Go to a new doc, you should not be eating 900 calores, and i would guess your 1000-1200 is why you are gaining

CRYSTALDANCER SparkPoints: (106,698)
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4/8/12 4:21 P

I'm with the others, you're not getting enough cals, especially if you workout for an hour daily. I think the reason you aren't losing, or even gaining a couple of pounds is because your body is desperately trying to hang on to everything you eat.

And this is just my opinion, but if your doctor told you to eat 900 cals a day, it might be time to find a new doctor.

ANARIE Posts: 13,192
4/8/12 4:08 P

I think it's time to get a new doctor. If you're being accurate about your food tracking but not losing on 1200 calories, there's some sort of physical problem like hypothyroid or insulin resistance. If your doctor's answer was to eat 900 calories, that means either s/he doesn't believe you about what you eat, or s/he's completely untrained in nutrition and metabolic issues. Either way, you're not getting the help you need. If you like your doctor and think s/he's not just blowing you off, ask for a referral to someone who has experience in nutrition and weight loss. If s/he's a good doctor who's just out of his/her element, s/he'll probably be happy to find someone else for you and interested in having you report back so s/he can help other patients.

DONNA_W SparkPoints: (89,638)
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4/8/12 3:38 P

Eat to live is focused on fruit vegetables and beans. You are supposed to eat 1 lb of raw vegetables (mostly greens) and 1 lb of cooked vegetables, at least 4 fruits servings, 1 cup beans or legumes and a cup of whole grains/starchy veg per day. The volume of vegetables assures one is not hungry. I am 5' 4"

I have been using SP and trying to eat a healthy diet for quite a long time and some of the issue is water retention I suspect. Even my doctor told me to go to 900 cal as I was not loosing weight. And I do exercise regularly and have been for years. I am not limiting the fruits and vegs and the good news is that I am not hungry but I am perplexed as to why I have gained weight. Even is I'm not eating enough I should not be gaining weight.


Edited by: DONNA_W at: 4/8/2012 (15:47)
MPLANE37 SparkPoints: (79,152)
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4/8/12 2:43 P

It might be water retention, or you are not tracking the calories taken in accurately, or a combination of both.

MLAN613 Posts: 18,814
4/8/12 10:04 A

I wholeheartedly agree with the previous two posters. Have you tried using SP? Trust me, it works! You need to eat enough to maintain your bodily functions and more if you incorporate exercise.

AILEBBELIA SparkPoints: (13,418)
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4/7/12 11:15 P

You aren't eating enough...

Are you under 5 feet?

Does this plan give everyone the same calorie range?

DRAGONCHILDE SparkPoints: (61,458)
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4/7/12 11:14 P

For starters, 1,000 to 1,200 calories isn't enough to support any level of activity beyond being sedentary, for most people. It's almost certainly not enough for someone of your weight... your BMR alone will likely burn down most of that and live you with very little to support active exercise. Sparkpeople will *never* provide you with a plan that gives less than 1200 calories, and in general, low-cal plans of that nature are only appropriate for very slight, sedentary women.

If you haven't been exercising long, it's very common to gain a few lbs or so of water weight as your muscles adjust to the rigors of your routine. Explanation here:

My biggest concern at this point, though, isn't your weight gain; it's that you will likely be unable to sustain that level of activity very long on that low of a caloric intake. It's not healthy for your mind, nor your body! You need to fuel those workouts, and create a healthy calorie deficit that still leaves you with the energy to keep your body moving.

DONNA_W SparkPoints: (89,638)
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4/7/12 11:04 P

I started Furhman's Eat to Live diet 6 week plan on 3/19 and have been doing pretty well on sticking to it. Generally I have been eating about 1000 -1200 cal /day (150 Carbohydrates, 30-40 T fat, less than 6 Sat fat, 60 protein, 30-40 fiber chol less than 100) and exercising at least 3 - 4 x / week for 60 min each session.

Problem is I GAINED WEIGHT!!!! about 2-3 lbs. I am really perplexed!!! Any ideas what could be going on.

eating beans and greens and gaining weight.

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