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IMJUSTGRANDMA SparkPoints: (34,332)
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9/7/13 1:42 A

I was not able to keep up with the new miracle everday. After a few times rushing out to find something he recommends and the next day it is something else I became disillusioned.

GRAPHICS2 Posts: 13,944
9/6/13 10:18 P

I don't watch Dr. Oz every day, but I don't think he is peddling anything. He has opened our
eyes to a lot of things in the medical profession that we were not aware of, or didn't understand. He is also making a lot of people more comfortable with their bodies, and how it
should, or should not function.

JANIEWWJD SparkPoints: (576,234)
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9/6/13 10:16 P

I didn't get to watch that particular show, but I wish I had.

ANARIE Posts: 13,192
9/6/13 10:13 P

Actually, I don't think Oz does make money directly from supplement companies (although his wife does to a limited extent.) If he were doing that directly, they could pull his medical license.

The problem with Oz is that he's a victim of his own success. When he was making his name through guest appearances and popular-press books, he was pretty phenomenal. He had a gift for sharing his knowledge in easily understandable terms, without talking down to his audience/reader. He could go on Oprah for fifteen minutes a week and just talk about things he knew, and it was entertaining and informative all at once.

But then he got his own show, and all of a sudden he had almost 20 times as much time to fill. NOBODY is smart enough to talk about what they know on TV for five hours a week and be entertaining to a general audience, especially as a side job while being a cardiothoracic surgeon!

At that point, he had a couple of choices:
--give up practicing medicine to become a researcher and present that on his show
--hire a bunch of other expert researchers and do a semi-scripted show presenting information he didn't personally know all that well
--bring on guests and let them talk about whatever they wanted to talk about

Oz chose the last option-- but unfortunately, he didn't screen his early guests well and he didn't research their topics. He let a few snake oil salesmen on and he didn't know enough to be secure in saying, "Wait a minute, that's total bull****."

And then it was all downhill from there. Because he had let those first quacks on without challenging them, he couldn't suddenly start refusing quacks or he would be accused of bias. He couldn't suddenly start challenging them for the same reason. Before he knew it, he'd become the venue of choice for quacks, and serious people wouldn't go on his show anymore because they didn't want to be associated with the quacks. Now he's in a hole he can't get out of. His show has become a free infomercial venue for crackpots and cheats.

Old friends and colleagues are actually worried about his mental health because he's acting like he believes in these magical potions when he KNOWS there's no scientific or even basic logical backing for them.

By the way, somebody said something about the FDA. The FDA has nothing to do with supplements. They're the Food and Drug Administration, and supplement makers have spent billions of dollars lobbying to make sure their products are not classed as foods or drugs. The FDA can't touch any of these people; the FDA enforces laws, and there ARE NO LAWS for supplements except that they can't use the words "treat" or "cure" and they can't put actual drugs in their products. In my opinion, it's really important to know that the FDA is legally barred from protecting people against supplements.

However, the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) and the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) have a little influence. If a supplement makes fraudulent claims, the FTC can get involved, and if they do it on TV or radio, the FCC can have something to say about it. They rarely do, but they're the ones who could, in theory. If enough people complained about Dr Oz, and it was proven that his show promotes fraud, the FCC could threaten to fine the stations that carry the program. It's hard to do, though, because as long as the products aren't illegal, people are entitled to free speech about them.

ETHELMERZ Posts: 20,221
9/6/13 9:33 P

After the first month his show went "national", all of a sudden, he was not reasonable anymore, simply because he finally realized his show needed and existed because of sponsors, and he needed sponsors so badly, his company began to go with anything, enema companies, even though Dr. Oz at first said not to worry about "cleanses", they didn't do a think, supplements, oh My, he owns several companies that make supplements, same as Oprah does. That is how he "touts" products, he doesn't necessarily tell the audience to buy this and that brand, his show AND his web site is full of baloney products. Some of his guests do the same thing, that Andrew Weil is one of them for sure, and on and on. His is not the only show that does this, of course. But just using his photo sells products, especially to the elderly, particularly women.

KPA1B2 Posts: 785
9/6/13 9:06 P

I've watched bits and pieces of his show. I remember seeing him do a segment on things that work i.e. toothpaste on zits. I then saw him do a segment on how that was a myth. I don't trust him.

BLUENOSE63 SparkPoints: (108,021)
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9/6/13 8:59 P

LOVE$KITTIES hit the nail on the head. I really find Dr. Oz annoying!

SIMPLYME80 Posts: 406
9/6/13 8:55 P

At first I enjoyed his show, he promoted healthy weight loss, sensible plans and foods, exercise, and was very informative. Mentioned, vitaman/herbal supplements on rare occasions. Since taking over Oprahs time slot he has become a pill/supplement pusher-something he never did on older shows.

JULIA1154 Posts: 1,783
9/6/13 7:30 P

He has no credibility with me, for a variety of reasons. His show is one of many that I don't have time for.

MAMA_CD Posts: 1,507
9/6/13 6:39 P

I saw the show, I'm often hesitant to respond to ads, so it's wise to check the source, if it's legit then the company will have something on their site to signify that.

THOMS1 Posts: 13,280
9/6/13 6:38 P

I like Dr. Oz but I just don't totally agree with him on a lot of things.

LOLEMA SparkPoints: (105,894)
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9/6/13 6:34 P

I love Dr. Oz, but I don't know what to believe or who to trust his endorsements.

BREWERFAN71 SparkPoints: (32,482)
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9/6/13 5:23 P

Ok, I'll probably get jumped on for this, but can anyone tell me what it is that he "hawks" that is causing all the hate? I am curious-I've only seen bits & pieces of his talk show, but I really liked the show NY Med that he was involved in. I may be wrong, but I know there are nutrition guidelines he promotes that have to do with "non-inflammatory" foods I think? For some reason that pops to mind.

I do believe a lot of what is out there is false like what he said on his show-just like the ads that use Oprah, Rachel Ray, etc. At least he has a true medical background & knows what he's talking about, not like the other doctor Oprah introduced us to who I think is a quack, Dr. Phil-but that's another story! :)

TACDGB Posts: 6,136
9/6/13 5:01 P

He should change his name from dr Oz to dr duck.........he's a quack...! He will peddle anything to promote his name........and make $$$$. That is my opinion.

DEANNA0725 SparkPoints: (22,611)
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9/6/13 4:32 P

One of the best things that I have done for my son and I is to turn off the TV. We watch a total of 10 hours a week and it has been wonderful. He wasn't all that thrilled about it when I told him what I was going to do, but after a few weeks everything was fine. We made it even easier to do by getting rid of cable and just having the basic channels. Sorry for being off topic, but I never liked Dr. Oz in the first place and agree that he is a pusher of all things that will make him $$$$

ANTONIO54 Posts: 64
9/6/13 4:16 P

I must say that I've learned a Lot today.
Also: You folks have done OUTSTANDING jobs with the weight loss. Well Done

9/6/13 1:43 P

He is an alarmist and peddles all kinds of stuff that probably isn't good for us. I hate how so many people think he is so wonderful when all he does every time I am unfortunate enough to catch his show is make people afraid for their lives so they go running to order his stuff. He is jsut a modern day snake oil salesman.

JHAACK39 SparkPoints: (12,343)
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9/6/13 12:14 P

If he didn't sensationally hype and hawk so many different products/plans/diets, he wouldn't have this problem. I get a lot of Ozspam. His problem is, even though most of what he hawks/hypes is rooted in science, the actual effect is overstated or left unaddressed.

Just because a study shows that consuming __________ shows an increase/decrease in ____________ in lab rats/humans/etc. does not mean that it will have a noticeable effect. Much of what he promotes would have nothing beyond a marginally measurable effect in reality.

LOSE4LIFE47 Posts: 69,265
9/6/13 11:12 A

I was taught if something looks to good to be true then don't do it. I do my best to follow that unless I feel pressured sometimes.

ANTONIO54 Posts: 64
9/6/13 10:41 A

Oh geez, how naive I am. I didn't think of that at all. He sure sold me if what your saying is true.

SHERYLDS Posts: 17,457
9/6/13 10:10 A

I totally agree with LOVE4KITTIES
I use the medical websites to investigate issues and I search for news articles before buying into any hype. The food and drug industry has become so money hungry and the FDA is less and less powerful (or vigilant ?) that we need to do our own thinking these days.

the old saying ... if it sounds too good to be is.

LOVE4KITTIES Posts: 4,690
9/6/13 10:03 A

Dr. Oz promotes a lot of fad diets, supplements, etc. ON his show that don't work and could possibly be dangerous. He knows what he's doing...he's saying whatever he needs to in order to gain as much popularity and as many viewers as possible. This means more sponsors and more $$$ to line his pockets. Oz doesn't make any money when his name is used without his permission and I'm willing to bet that this (and not any concerns about his viewers' health) is his chief concern. I'm willing to bet that the preponderance of websites using Oz's name also upset his sponsors because they are paying him to use his name and want limited use of that name so they can sell more of their product to people who buy stuff simply because it's endorsed by Oz. In other words, it makes Oz-sponsored products less special (thus creates less sales) if lots of places are using the Oz name vs just a select few.

Dr. Oz uses his medical degree to give himself credibility that he does not deserve. He's anything but credible. He lends his name to certain companies for $$$ in order to give their products credibility that they do not deserve. Other websites use his name without his permission to give themselves credibility that they do not deserve... All of them are promoting nonsense at best and stuff which could harm you at worst. Your best bet is actually to avoid getting health/diet information from Oz and avoid any products that he promotes or which use his name without his permission.

ANTONIO54 Posts: 64
9/6/13 9:27 A

on tv, Monday, Labor Day.
Dr; Oz's show was about fake ads using his name.
He asked that everyone who see's his name being used any other place except "HIS" web site contact the web site doing the false ads.
Did anyone else see this show?
More importantly, buyer beware! They are selling fake or even dangerous suppliments using his name.

Your thoughts?

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