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2/9/12 3:53 P

I agree, Cicely.

There is a "fitness snob" mentality out there. No offense intended to anyone in particular, but those who have succeeded in getting fit may be a bit too judgmental at times.

I believe you get out of something what you put into it. And I think some of these gadgets have a place for someone. Nobody ever said that if you buy it, you get fit. Even my shapeups shoes clearly stated you need to MOVE to obtain benefits from them! emoticon

If someone feels beachbody is too expensive, don't buy it. But if someone else does, and likes it- and how it structured a workout plan for them w/o needing to go to a gym and work out, or spending insane amounts of time self-educating to get to the same type of workout offered by beachbody, more power to them!

CICELY360 Posts: 4,140
2/9/12 3:39 P

I don't agree with SERGEANTMAJOR that everything on infomercials are rip offs. For example, I have been doing The Firm since I was a teen in the early 1990s (they were on VHS). I think it's a good product that does give real results, especially for women. I think the company, which has been around since the 1970s, utilizes informercials because it gets in touch with more people.

The bottom line is to investigate the products or programs. Find information about the instructors. Of course, many of the informercials are lying about the results you'll see, but not every informercial-sold product is pulling your legs. I have purchased a few products that were respectable. I watch out for gadgets. I don't trust them at all.

For the most part, you will not see the results shown unless you follow the program to a tee and every body is different. I won't say the name, but I actually put a program to the test. In a week, I actually did lose three inches on my waist. The progress was slower after that initial week, but I continued seeing results. Like I said before, use common sense.

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2/9/12 3:14 P

This was actually the topic conversation on the radio station I listened to on the way to work this morning. There are way too many people and products out there trying to take advantage of others. If it seems to good to be true it probably is!!!

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2/9/12 2:07 P

Well, as I've remarked many times on here, there are plenty of SP users who believe they burn ridiculous amounts of calories just walking 3 mph on a treadmill, so there is a ready, willing, and able market for this.

If one is intelligent and thoughtful, he or she can sift through it. I am not embarrassed to admit that my purchase of Skechers Shape Ups in the fall of 2009, when I was 185 lbs and hadn't worked out in years, got me moving again.

Now I run 12 miles/week, weigh 158 pounds, lowered my body fat considerably, have implemented a lot of strength training into my regimen, and am working toward continuing to improve my nutrition and build on my fitness success. My goal is a 15k in July right now.

Much of what I have learned is from here. But I will say what I have said before- I got started after I say Joe Montana's ad, and felt as though I started to see progress. Soon, I was off to the races, literally. No, I don't wear the shoes now, but I think I got benefit from them.

If someone thinks they are finding a shortcut or don't have to work out when they buy these products, shame on them, not the products. If someone buys a product and likes it, uses it, and improves heir health, regardless of what the price may seem to you, it was worth it to them.


MRSG942011 Posts: 464
2/9/12 2:05 P

That is crazy!

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2/9/12 1:52 P

Thanks so much for the information!

It always shocks me how people go for the "instant" weight loss, even doing dangerous things like starving themselves, over-exercising, or purging to look thin for one big event, or even over a prolonged period of time. You would think they would want to look healthy and fit for the rest of their lives, and realize that time and effort put toward a healthy diet and exercise plan is really an investment in their futures!

2/9/12 1:40 P

"is P90X a joke?"

No it is an overpriced over hyped compilation of exercises which are available for less money or even free. "Muscle Confusion" is just a marketing ploy, the term was created over 60 years ago by Joe Weider in :Muscle and Fitness" magazine for bodybuilders. It has no more validity now than it did then. The point to me is that instant gratification is offered by many of these scams or they make unrealistic claims for having the "secret formula" which is used to hype an overpriced item.

Edited by: SERGEANTMAJOR at: 2/10/2012 (20:33)
DAVEYSETHSMOM SparkPoints: (60)
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2/9/12 1:39 P

Thanks, that's what I have been doing and it works well. It just looked so neat on TV...

ARCHIMEDESII SparkPoints: (200,109)
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2/9/12 1:38 P

Is P90X a joke ? Nope. I don't think P90X is a joke. I think it's a good product. BUT, I do think their 90 days claims are exaggerated. Which is the problem with all the late night infomercials. Many make exaggerated claims that "hook" people into buying them.

I've seen many posts from people who've faithfully done the P90X program. They want to know why they didn't get the results that they saw on TV. They didn't get the results because at the very bottom of the screen in very small writing is a disclaimer that says,"results not typical".

Take spinning. I've seen Johnny G's late night fitness infomercial. They say that a person will scorch 1,000+ calories in a one hour workout using their products. Well, I am a certified Johnny G spinning instructor and I know that people do not scorch 1,000 calories in a one hour workout.

the figures are grossly exaggerated to sell a product and that is just plain deceptive advertising.

PS - I agree with Sarge. The Beach Body products are obscenely overpriced.

Edited by: ARCHIMEDESII at: 2/9/2012 (13:46)
CARLYSTUR SparkPoints: (66,825)
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2/9/12 1:21 P

I've seen a bunch of those infomercials over the years. The only one I ever really wanted was the "Magic Bullet". Thankfully, I didn't buy it. I looked up video reviews on YouTube for it and found out the truth about them not being as reliable/perfect as the people in the commercial make it seem.

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2/9/12 1:19 P

So P90X is a joke?

I don't know. If certain things get people moving, why mock them out? I never suggested that there was a shortcut to getting fit. What I have said is that if someone is motivated to get moving or watch his or her nutrition more by buying a product and actually using it correctly, then the product has done its job.

2/9/12 1:18 P

Personally I think anything sold via an infomercial is to some degree a rip off. There has to be money to put those choreographed production numbers together and that money can not impinge on the bottom line of the one selling the product. Maybe they should be like some restaurant menus saying gratuity included.

Some of the so called experts have taken their real or imagined expertise and begun selling programmes about subjects which the know knowing and even promoting supplements they know are ineffective. I saw it in an infomercial makes as much sense and has much validity as it must be true I read it on the internet.

Edited by: SERGEANTMAJOR at: 2/9/2012 (13:33)
SARAHARNETTE SparkPoints: (6,387)
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2/9/12 12:58 P

I question everything that does not require work in order to achieve something. My husband tried one of those "get great abs while sitting on the couch" electric shock things. i laughed so hard i fell when he ripped it off complaining that it hurt. Duh, you are purposely shocking yourself! and no, he never got great abs from using it. he got a burn and a healthy fear of electricity.

HEYBUTT Posts: 769
2/9/12 12:47 P

There are also simple photography tricks they employ to make "after" folks appear thinner. You see celebrities do it all the time, like standing with one leg in slightly in front of the other so you look less wide.

Sensa is a good example of the "simple" photo manipulation tricks. The befores are all snapshots from the user (a vacation photo or the person stuffing their face with birthday cake) and the afters are they polished and spiffy (wearing spanxs under their carefully selected outfits).

Also check out the fine print on most of the "diet pill" type ads. They usually note how much was lost and how long it took. Do a bit of math and most folks lost "all that weight" over a good stretch of time (think 2 lbs a week) with "proper diet and exercise". So the company is basically telling you you don't need their item, you can do it on your own.

(I love diet/exercise infomercials--they're so fun to pick apart)

2/9/12 12:19 P

I had a spin instructor who was one of the buffed-out spokespeople in an informercial for some abdominal contraption or other. She told us point-blank it was a lie.

VW_SARAH SparkPoints: (4,266)
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2/9/12 12:09 P

I haven't seen that product, but you can just use a blender:
There are jazzier frozen banana recipes involving peanut butter and cocoa on too.

2/9/12 12:05 P

Actually if you blend a frozen banana with some yogurt, you get something really similar to frozen yogurt. I think that machine would really just be another gimmick. Just use a normal blender.

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2/9/12 11:58 A

Interesting video, thanks for sharing.

I try not to get sucked into "as seen on TV" products, but a couple years ago, I fell for the "Slap Chop." I used it once and found that it didn't chop through the veggies like it was suppose to (big surprise..)

Lately, I have seen the advertisement for "yonanas", which is a machine that makes a softserve icecream substance out of frozen bananas and fruit...Anybody try this one yet? It does look really good, will I be fooled again?? lol

BAMAJAM Posts: 2,224
2/9/12 11:19 A

KICKINGIT--- I agree with you that it is despicable when the TV celebrities try to scam folks with unrealistic "hype"... Robert Wagner, Fred Thompson, and Henry Winkler are three guys who are constantly on commericials promoting "reverse mortgage" to seniors. (as if these guys don't already have enough money) ! Seniors, beware of Robert Wagner dressed in his fishing vest, and the two other distingushed guys----and check with a reputable financial advisor, Key word, reputable! Reverse mortgages are not always wise decisions, and can be the opposite. What a shame (despicable) that many seniors can be scammed!! I know this is somewhat off track from subject--but the message is important.
By the way, anyone tried that "NO NO" device to remove facial hair? I want one! LOL

CICELY360 Posts: 4,140
2/9/12 11:14 A

I don't believe all of them. However, Beachbody programs, Zumba and The Firm are reputable products that have informercials. A person has to have the common sense when watching informercials. I question the Tummy Tuck one and a few others that don't require working out.

JUNETTA2002 Posts: 11,745
2/9/12 11:13 A

I watch all the infomercials and wonder why I do. The only thing I need is spark people. I have tried weight watchers, LA Weight loss, Nutrisystem and am still gaining weight. It's not the program that you use it using the program that you chose.

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2/9/12 10:50 A

I once bought a Nordic Trac ski machine from a late night infomercial... kept it behind my chesterfield for years, and I didn't lose even one pound. Okay, I'm kidding... but most machines... even simple ones... will work if you work hard with them.

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2/9/12 10:39 A

This is an awesome video.

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2/9/12 9:46 A

This thought crossed my mind as I was watching the Malibu Pilates Chair Info-mercial. I had just completed the January Jumpstart Challenge with Coach Nicole. During that challenge we worked all the muscle groups that the pilates chair claimed to work but without the expense or hassle of any exercise machine!! My thought: "I just got a better workout, for free, right here on Spark People!" Who needs info-mercial diet and exercise stuff? Not us!!

KICKINGIT@56 Posts: 3,177
2/9/12 9:41 A

Scams come in all shapes and sizes; as long as there are gullible people looking for a quick fix or results without work, these infomercials will continue to proliferate. It's doubly despicable when well-known, respected celebrities help lure people in by selling their endorsement to these rip-off artists.

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2/9/12 9:37 A

JAYDEE925, we got those pots with the strainer lids as a gift. Same gross thing happened to us.

JEFFGIRL Posts: 11,265
2/9/12 9:26 A

Seems like late-night infomercials are a no-brainer. Don't buy! My husband always jokes that everything is $19.99 and a free one if you order in the next 5 1/2 seconds. LOL

NEENSTER1 Posts: 3,884
2/9/12 8:28 A

Yeah okaaaaaay.... emoticon for sharing.

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2/9/12 8:11 A

I've watched a few and sometimes question why they aren't regulated more...but they always have their small print disclaimer. I have learned to take almost everything I see in the media with a grain of salt these days. I'll check the video out at home. Thanks!

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2/9/12 8:07 A

Pretty awesome video...thanks for sharing. I figured there was some trick to it (I tend to not believe the As Seen on TV ads...hubby works for a company that answers the phones for some of the televised ads and sees the products first-hand in the office)

While it would be nice to have a miracle pill that melted the weight, eating healthy and exercise will have to do it for me :)

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2/9/12 7:43 A

I don't watch TV, but I learned a long time ago not to buy anything they sell on MIL once bought us those pans that have the strainers in the lids, which was a nice idea, but the first time I used them, the "nonstick coating" flaked right off into our food. After that, I've passed on buying many seemingly useful products because the package said, "As Seen on TV!" It's all just more made-in-the-third-world junk, and none of it's any good.

What I found interesting about the video was his "disclaimer" - infomercial folks can sell you useless junk that doesn't do what they say it does and doesn't last through one use and they don't have to worry about getting sued, but someone who points out what useless junk they're selling you does?!

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2/9/12 7:39 A

Wow, I had never heard of Furious Pete until coming to this message board! Sorry to say I bought the ab buster and yeah, for get it. So back to crunches, weights and cardio. There is no easy way. You just have to buckle down and work.

2/9/12 7:08 A

Gotta admit I do wish they were true. I almost bought tummy tuck belt. The models ook like real people. Glad I saw this thread before I bought it.

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2/9/12 6:38 A

I think one thing you have to keep in mind.. is this guy was in shape to begin with. Being a competitve eater and body builder, he knows how to manipulate his body. I found it really interesting though. I have a few "infomercial" items and they both work really well. I think you just have to know if it's too good to be true, then it probably is. And as far as all those fitness videos out there, it's the marketing that sells them (such as those wonderful before/after photos). I think any of them would work if they are done - it's excercise, it will work if it's actually done. Still, his video of his own 5 hour before and after transformation was interesting.

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2/9/12 5:13 A

I had a roommate whose grandfather ordered all kinds of infomercial stuff because he was bored. We had lots of it in our house and boy, was it crap. The knives weren't sharp, the abroller broke after 2 sessions and lots more. I have never tended to believe any of it afterwards.

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2/9/12 1:03 A

Commercials appeal to our "gimmie" natures and our imapatience. People don't want to hear honest answers.

We are often being immature and lazy. To get certain results , we need to work and show responsibiity for our decisions. we need to accept and love our bodies and want stuff and we "want it now".

Commercials and Infomercials take advantage out our childish attitudes/behaviors to "promise results easily and quickly"

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2/9/12 12:59 A

What I found interesting was the the bloating effect of the salty snacks followed by diet soda or chocolate milk.

Has anyone watched his extreme eating video? It could put you off fast food for life.

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2/8/12 9:50 P

Thanks for sharing. I saw him on yahoo today.

I knew they did a after then before my girlfriend is a model for before and after infomercials.

Gotta Love it. Excercise and proper diet work!!!!!!

2/8/12 9:46 P

I think most people are capable of detecting these kinds of fake "before" and "after" photos. A lot of the people who "fall" for ads like this probably just want to believe them badly enough to ignore their better instincts.

Really, you see this more often on diet pill ads than on ads for even the most questionable fitness programs, and if you look in the small print on the bottom of the screen, they'll usually say that the ad is a "dramatization."

Edited by: GOTHICLOLLIPOP at: 2/8/2012 (21:50)
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2/8/12 9:35 P

The day that a miracle pill is developed that will enable you to eat all you want and still lose weight it will not be sold on late night tv with an "act now and we will include 2!" type of claim. it will be patented and sold via prescription and will make a fortune for a pharma company.

JANMAN50 Posts: 20
2/8/12 9:24 P

I don't believe them, any of them, but when I am watching late night TV they do serve as a reminder not to snack. emoticon

JMFINCT Posts: 860
2/8/12 8:12 P

I was amazed by this video-not that I ever believe infomercials, but for the more vulnerable I guess they work. This Pete guy I think did a valuable service. I guess when people are so desperate they'll want to believe anything. Stick with the truth for most of us: eat less, excercise or move more.

I wish us all blessings and the best to achieve our goals!

JENN_A Posts: 13
2/8/12 7:41 P

That's crazy, although not terribly surprising. You do have to be extra careful these days, that's for sure!
Also, I'm wondering where the merit was in the English correction a couple comments below mine. Was that really for their information or was it meant to be as condescending as it seemed?

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2/8/12 6:21 P

That video is hilarious. So much for truth in advertising. But what else is new?

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2/8/12 5:38 P

Any video that says "you can lose X many lbs doing nothing but sit-ups" or "doing 5 minutes of cardio a day will give you giant muscles" have got to be full of it. I always feel so bad for the folks who fall for these gimmicks and lose their money.

JULIA1154 Posts: 1,783
2/8/12 4:03 P

"Marketing folks are praying upon the something for nothing crowd"

FYI - the correct term is "preying" rather than "praying".

JENMC14 Posts: 2,786
2/8/12 3:55 P

That is crazy! I've always taken the infomercials (and the before and afters) with a huge grain of salt, but that video is just a huge eye-opener! I will be sharing it on Facebook!

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2/8/12 3:40 P

Our society is full of those who want something for nothing, staying fit and losing weight is just another aspect of it. Marketing folks are praying upon the something for nothing crowd with those ads, only a moron would actually believe it works with little or no effort.

BUFFEDSTUFF-- Posts: 2,520
2/8/12 2:41 P

modern day snake oil, but hey it still works as long as people want quick easy and fast search of the none existent magical solution... thanks for sharing maybe someone will heed the warning. emoticon It's taken me six years to get this far...hmm to think I could have done it in 90 days

Edited by: BUFFEDSTUFF-- at: 2/8/2012 (14:42)
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2/8/12 2:19 P

Ever wonder how people in those late night fitness infomercials are able to get such dramatic results in a short time ? Well, it's a lot easier than you think.

A fellow named Furious Pete, who is a body builder and competitive eater (haven't figured out how that works), has created a fantastic YOUTUBE video on how he achieved "dramatic" before and after photos without the help of photo shop. Watch this video to see how he goes from pumped to plump in five hours.

Here is the original YOUTUBE video.

This video merely goes to show how easily the late night fitness commercials manipulate people to buy their products. While some of the results may be real, they are altered to suit the needs of the commercial. As they say,"Don't believe what your eyes are telling you". It will make you think twice when you're up late at night channel surfing.

Edited by: ARCHIMEDESII at: 2/8/2012 (15:01)
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