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CARRIENIGN SparkPoints: (101,643)
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5/10/13 12:57 A

It's not about counting "good" calories versus "bad" calories. It's a calorie count. Period. Doesn't matter which kind or where it comes from. If you want the results, you have to do it the right way and be honest with your food log and stop looking for shortcuts! Generally vegetables are really low cal anyway, so you really don't spend many points.

MOMMYOF230 SparkPoints: (1,139)
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5/9/13 9:59 P

Thank you

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
5/9/13 7:18 P

All calories count, and how much you burn off determines the caloric deficit. So an extra 160 calories of fruit may be the difference between gaining and losing weight. That is 1120 calories a week, or an extra days worth of food.

In fact, it causes an Insulin release, after spiking blood sugars. Insulin is known as the fat storing hormone. If you don't spike your blood sugar, then you don't cause a huge Insulin release, and store less fat. Low glycemic foods, as well as fats and proteins, do not cause huge spikes in blood sugar. Carbs do, and fruit is a carb. Low glycemic fruits include apples, and berries. The more carbs you eat at one time, the more fat you will store. Of course we also burn these fat stores, so some carbs are good, just try not to have too many at one time, if fat loss is your goal.

SMANISMELL SparkPoints: (76,799)
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5/9/13 3:37 P

All calories count. Too much daily fruits and veggies can still lead to weight gain. And you do need at least 1200 calories a day. Too few calories and your body will go into starvation mode and start conserving calories as best as it can.

UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
5/9/13 3:06 P

It's generally more like if you don't get at least 1200 a day.

1200 is a floor for women. Mostly that's about nutrients, not an energy equation. If your diet doesn't add up to at least 1200 then you're not likely to be getting enough vitamins and minerals from that selection.

Do try to increase your intake. Here are some tips:

MOMMYOF230 SparkPoints: (1,139)
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5/9/13 1:41 P

On my spark tracker im allowed 1280- 1630 calories per day but i generally only get about 900- 1100 per day since ive started tracking and watching what i eat. How many calories do we actually need per day to be in a healthy range. My mother-in-law says if I dont get at least 1000 per day then im going under and I wont loose weight????

MEGAPEEJ Posts: 732
5/9/13 1:06 P

Yep, seconding (thirding, fifthing) that all calories count. Some calories are more nutritionally valuable than others (i.e. fruit will be better for you than cheeseburgers), but it is possible to eat a healthy diet full of nutritionally dense food and still gain weight. I became overweight on healthy things like salmon and avocados and rice!

I have a friend on WW that argues "fruits don't count" - but a banana is 100 calories, and an avocado is 300! Just eating those two things is an entire 3rd-4th of many people's daily allowance. They don't just "not count".

SIMONEKP Posts: 2,764
5/9/13 12:54 P

the other are correct, everything counts.

SLIMMERKIWI SparkPoints: (256,641)
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5/9/13 7:11 A

Calories are calories, regardless of where they have come from. Even vegetarians and vegans can end up obese, so it obviously DOES matter!

Before my weight-loss journey I ate more fruit/veges than I do now. They were, and still are, the majority of my diet. The only way I could cut back calories, was to cut back the fruit. (I WAS eating 14+ serves fruit/veges a day and ended up obese)


Edited by: SLIMMERKIWI at: 5/9/2013 (07:15)
CMCOLE Posts: 2,667
5/9/13 6:41 A

Sounds like someone on WW has been talking to you - because on that particular program, most fruits and veggies are zero points.

Otherwise; I wouldn't believe it.
Calories DO count, regardless of where they are derived.

I track it all

MISSRUTH Posts: 4,309
5/9/13 5:20 A

Here's a great Spark article on carbohydrates

Fruits & vegetables are, of course, carbohydrates. And they most defiinitely can be stored as fat, depending on whether your glycogen stores are full.

Edited by: MISSRUTH at: 5/9/2013 (05:23)
UNIDENT Posts: 33,498
5/9/13 1:13 A

"I heard that fruit and vegetables can not be stored as fat..."


All calories can be stored as fat. The source of that information was poorly informed.

ERICADURR Posts: 243
5/8/13 9:23 P

Fruit and veggies most CERTAINLY CAN be stored as fat. If it has sugar in it or starch, and if your glycogen stores are full, then it will be stored as fat.

CLARK971 SparkPoints: (29,686)
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5/8/13 8:48 P

I track them like any other food, (which may not work for everyone.)

My lettuce from dinner was probably 10 calories. Not a big deal in the big picture of my weekly calories. The banana I had earlier was 100+ calories. If I had a banana a day (100 calories) and an apple a day (80 calories) that would be 1260 calories in a week unaccounted for.

I like to track them, because along with calories, I track nutrition goals. If I didn't track the fruits and veggies, I wouldn't have an accurate picture of my nutrition.

I have friends that love the weight watchers plan of not counting certain foods. I have never done weight watchers, so I can't comment on not counting things. I can only comment on why I count them.

CFULLINGTONEGLI SparkPoints: (2,210)
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5/8/13 8:16 P

I track everything. Good and bad, it helps me keep track of exactly what I'm eating.

5/8/13 7:47 P

I heard that fruit and vegetables can not be stored as fat so you do not have to count them in your daily calorie count. What do you think?

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