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BETHV10 SparkPoints: (0)
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3/10/11 11:31 A

I have been on WW several times only to regain or get frustrated with it and quit. With Sparkpeople I find that I am more accountable to myself and I don't mind tracking the calories since I can usually find something similar to what I plan to eat. I also like to track my exercises.
I did NOT like weighing myself in front of others and I did not enjoy the lectures. (I know what to do but I chose not to do it.)
With SparkPeople , I'm taking accountability for myself and my choices. Reading the Spark book helped me immensely. I would never go back to WW!

128PERFECT Posts: 3,026
3/10/11 11:28 A

I was also on ww for about 3 years. But I now prefer spark for several reasons but the main reasons are that spark has taught me so much about nutrition and fitness. So I feel like I will be able to maintain this as a life style.

3/10/11 11:19 A

I've had success in the past with WW but have been Spark People fan for several years. I recently rejoined WW because now that I'm in my 40's my 20 year old weight loss strategies aren't working. I'm pleased with the recent changes at WW - more emphasis on activity and eating fruits and veggies. Years ago I remember a WW Leader saying, "Don't eat too many apples, they are at least 1 point each" and thinking how ridiculous that sounded.

I agree with what most people have said about how SparkPeople is better than WW online but I must admit that stepping onto a scale in front of other people and listening to an inspirational leader at a meeting can be a great motivator. It is also just nice to sit in a room with other people in the same boat.

Long term, though, I'm probably more likely to stick with SP than WW due to the cost. $39.99/month adds up quickly.

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2/20/11 1:23 P

I tried WW and successfully lost 15 pounds. I prefer the exercise options and tracker on SP. Both WW and SP are difficult initially do to counting points or calories. It is time consuming to work out the value of food. I do find counting calories to be somewhat easier. I can look at a label and know calories whereas with points, there was a lot of initial configuring.

2B-THIN-2B Posts: 895
2/20/11 12:59 P

whatever floats your boat and works for you.

CNYGAL SparkPoints: (0)
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2/20/11 12:57 P

I am new to SP but have done WW in the past. the new program turns me off: too mcuh food and the big change that demanded purchase of all new calculator and materials seemed like a marketing ploy. I'm enjoying cruising around on this site & hopeful that I can use this program to drop the 6 or so lbs that I gained in the last year.

DIAMORROW1 Posts: 2,765
2/14/11 12:20 P

Neither both make me crazy. I prefer portion control to counting anything.

LUCKYLADY777 SparkPoints: (52,343)
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2/14/11 12:17 P

I love SparkPeople, lots of good and supportive information... goodness it's a mind set sometimes. Just remember, when you keep doing good and the weight doesn't come off like you really want it to (like way toooo slow ) get on the computer and just distract yourself with SparkPeople. Your inside body will really appreciate you feeding it all that good food choices........ emoticon

KATHAKU Posts: 1,156
2/14/11 11:59 A

I like calorie counting, I've never done WW. It seems like it's more available on the go to count calories. It seems like instead of WW points, you can count calories a more universal approach.

MMOWENS73 Posts: 499
2/14/11 11:06 A

I briefly tried WW and couldn't get in to it...the points were tiresome to keep up this. The calorie tracking is much easier.

BIGRED721 Posts: 126
2/14/11 10:40 A

I definitely prefer calorie counting. I did Weight Watchers with success when it was 'Winning Points'. I tried it again a couple of years ago and they don't emphasize healthy eating like SP does. It would bother me that they would try to push these chemically laced snack foods all the time. Too many of the recipes on spark contain things like fat free Cool Whip (what is that anyway?), but at least they aren't shoved down my throat.

I also found some of the WW workers rude. I lose slowly and the weigh-in person would say things like, "well, better luck next week" when I'd lose half a pound. Half a pound is fantastic - but she would make it sound like crud.

PARKERB2 SparkPoints: (0)
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2/14/11 10:22 A

I'm currently doing both Spark and Weight Watchers. I am losing slowly. The Weight Watchers program changed in November and I'm not sure just how it will work yet.

2/14/11 10:21 A

I lost 16 lbs from September to December on WW, but have had problems losing since they changed their points system. I am trying to count calories now to see how that goes.

MACGRAW SparkPoints: (0)
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2/1/11 5:54 P

I have used WW twice and I have not had success with the maintenance part of it. The other thing that I don't like is that they emphasize a high fiber diet so you feel filled up and that didn't agree with me either. They tout having a great website but IMO it doesn't come close to Spark. I have found that if I track my food here, follow the guidelines and exercise I have been far more successful here over the long term and for a lot less money. WW will also push their products on you to the point where you feel like you are at an AMWAY meeting.

TACONES Posts: 4,713
2/1/11 5:51 P

Calorie SP

TACONES Posts: 4,713
2/1/11 5:48 P

Calorie SP

DIANEM120 Posts: 5,021
2/1/11 5:44 P

I like calorie counting better. Didn't like when WW went to the point system.


SAMGIRL72 SparkPoints: (0)
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2/1/11 4:31 P

I've done WW for a while too, and it does work. As for online resources - I do prefer SP.

ATZIONCH Posts: 3,996
2/1/11 4:22 P

When I had time WW worked for me, SP saves me both time and money :-)

LADYBUGG67 SparkPoints: (0)
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2/1/11 4:14 P

SP fits my budget. Plus they have so many fitness related resources. I am learning while getting fit which is a bonus!

CHESAKAT41 SparkPoints: (68,024)
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2/1/11 3:53 P

I like Weight Watchers - but SparkPeople is free and that helps my budget out just fine. Calories counting is old school and works for me...

BETHHRSN SparkPoints: (50,096)
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2/1/11 3:46 P

I am a lifetime weight watchers person but haven't used the online tools. I was thinking of signing up and remembered Sparkspeople and that it was free!

KIGGANSJ Posts: 562
2/1/11 3:24 P

I've never done WW online but I have in the past and just restarted in the At Work program. I am just getting use to the new Points Plus. I already know that I like the concept better than the old points systems. It is geared toward making "quality" food choices. Like any other program you have to work it to be successful. If you truly follow the program you are meeting all of the food pyramid dietary requirements.

HELENA260 Posts: 1,083
1/5/11 4:57 P

I have had much success with Weight watchers!!

PARKERB2 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/5/11 4:02 P

I have done both since September. The company I work for is paying for WW if I lose 8 lbs during the program, 17 weeks. So WW is basically free as I only have to lose 2.2 more lbs by Jan 18th. Spark PEople is free too. I love interacting with the SP community as I can do it as often or as little or as much as I would like. I will continue to do both as long as it's free as I can't do it if I have to pay. I do spend more time on SP and I love it. If I had to give one up, it would be WW.

SHORTLY Posts: 1,259
1/5/11 3:40 P

calorie counting,
Just read one of the articles on salad, who knew that beets, 1/2 cup would be 50 calories, wow, I would have given beets 0, 10 at most.
my problem is counting everything, even admitting everything. oh dear, I hope this day is good.

The person at WW was rude and made me feel bad about myself.

LOVEX3 Posts: 1,969
1/5/11 3:23 P

calorie counting

VICKYLEE7 Posts: 9
1/5/11 3:16 P

I loved ww, have had lots of success there, I spent years thinking of food in terms of points. last year I really decided I wanted to focus on putting better foods into my body and really excersizing more often. I just found that ww wasn't focused on the things I was and I just prefer this site. Plus it's free!

PENELOPE0831 Posts: 235
1/5/11 2:29 P

I lost 60 pounds with WW a few years back, and by the time I had lost the weight I had figured out that the healthy points foods all had certain nutritional commonalities- they were nutrient dense, low fat, and low calorie. Unfortunately, despite having that info in my mind, I gained the weight back because I have a desperate love of nachos and all things covered in cheese.

I found SP and I love it, but I really don't like tracking all the calories and everything. I found the points system to be more user friendly, personally. BUT, SP has great resources and a wonderful community so basically I'm following the WW Momentum eating plan, and the SP philosophies to exercise, lifelong change, community support, etc. I figure once I've lost a significant amount of weight, I'll switch from the WW/SP combo to strictly SP.

KBUSHA Posts: 14
1/5/11 1:30 P

I agree with the general consensus. I just recently switched from WW due to the program change. Not because I do not like it or did not have success on it, I just didn't want to have to pay again to get the info.

Since I had being doing WW for so long it was already in my head & I did not need meetings, etc. I was online only, non-paying online - just there for the community support. When they changed everything I just decided to switch to SP full time. I had already been here & checked stuff out.

Now that I am doing SP more I have found that I really, really like it. I am getting used to the website & the more I do that the more I like it.

I still go to the WW community. But find I am here more now.

For what it's worth, I do think that the new program changes encourage a more healthy lifestyle as opposed to just losing weight.

LOVEBYRD Posts: 1,994
1/5/11 1:17 P

I've done WW off & on for years, most recently online. I canceled my membership for extra holiday money, found SparkPeople & will NEVER go back! I find the SP site much more fun & interactive with more info. than WW had & the community is so much more inviting than WW plus it's free! IMO, WW works but it's all about the $$$ (which I have little of!)

SRSAMSON Posts: 823
1/5/11 1:13 P

I did WW online off and on for about 2 years with some success. I'll echo what others have said that you get out of it what you put into it. The online version did talk about healthy lifestyle, but there was always a "diet" undertone to a lot of things (if that makes any sense).

In essense the point system is a fancy form of calorie counting that basically takes the Calories, fat & fiber from a food and runs it through a formula to get a point (you can google it and find out what the exact formula is. i won't share it here because it is patented and copywritten).

The points try to steer you away from higher fat foods and to higher fiber foods, which is well and good. However, when WW says to eat "higher protien" foods, or "more good fats" there isn't much guidance as to what is "higher" and "more". I like SP better becuase I have more visibility and guidance to the micronutrients

SARAHO228 SparkPoints: (21,029)
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1/5/11 1:04 P

So far preferring Sparkpeople over WW. Was doing great till they changed their plan then all went down hill. Before I was very successful and dropped 30 lbs. I really worked hard for it. I know it's all about self control. I tried to keep doing it the old way but it was just too much to do it free hand. I did not have time to go to meetings in the evenings. Unfortunately once go to the first meeting you're obligated to pay for any meeting u missed or attended after that. I did try asking for help in message boards at WW. Instead I got rudeness and criticism. I felt very limited too on what I could eat. Here everyone has been so much nicer and don't feel limited and it's free too. Lots of different features too on this site and sparkteams. I learned alot of new things from being here vs. WW.

Edited by: SARAHO228 at: 1/5/2011 (13:30)
1/4/11 10:45 P

I switched from WW about 1 year ago. And while WW was successful, I still prefer SP for a few reasons.
1. SP is more focused on a long-term lifestyle change than a diet.
2. It is easier to track foods on SP, because I can use foods that other SP members have entered.
3. SP is free!!
4. It seems like SP has a bigger community of members and more resources.
5. I am very motivated by rewards ... even something as simple as sparkpoints :)

1/4/11 10:21 P

I left WW just a couple of weeks ago. I lost 40 pounds on the points/momentum program, then they switched to points plus. Certain foods increased in points and I was hungry all the time and gaining weight. I gained 5 pounds in 4 weeks and decided to switch to a program I could understand.

I think the problem with me and WW was that I could not make logical sense of why a piece of bread that was 100 calories was 4 points and a banana that's 100 calories 0 points.

I also found the online community less than supportive.

EMMANYC Posts: 1,702
1/4/11 10:05 P

I lost the weight on WW but switched to SP in June. I was particularly interested in being able to track a wider range of nutrients (e.g., calcium, selenium, iron) and like the fitness section a lot better: the video clips showing exercises are very helpful.

I think the new PointsPlus system that WW has introduced is better at encouraging healthy eating than the old system.

I think WW may be a better choice for some people who want a simpler system for tracking food (at least when I used WW, there were more foods in the WW-reviewed database than SP), and get boggled by calories but can handle thinking about a smaller number of points. For example, I might send my dad off to try WW at first, but ultimately I think he's switch to SP. I also think there are a lot of people who benefit from the accountability and support that come from face-to-face meetings led by good leaders. But if you're going the online only route, SP has a lot more resources and variety.

CATLADY21 Posts: 1,947
1/4/11 9:38 P

I prefer calorie counting.

SKINNYMISSKASEY SparkPoints: (114,139)
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1/4/11 9:36 P

I prefer calorie counting. I've lost right at 100lbs that way. I tried WW years ago, never liked it. My mom did it, and when she went off gained all her weight back.

It's just easier for me to track calories.

ROSIE204 SparkPoints: (76,864)
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1/4/11 8:39 P

I think it depends on the person as I prefer sparkpeople and counting calories but my neighbor has done wonderful with her points and WW, so I guess it depends on what you are more comfortable with.

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KZIEGNER SparkPoints: (11,699)
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1/4/11 9:34 A

I have done WW and did not like that they do not teach you proper nutrition. They teach you if its in your points allotment, that is fine. There is a difference in eating GOOD calories. I orefer Spark. Its free, too, and the online community is WAY better.

I am interested in seeing the new Points Plus plan as I have heard they have made improvements.

STUBBSGMA11 SparkPoints: (146,360)
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1/4/11 5:44 A

I did WW's for 2 years and lost 198 lbs, so I know it works if you work the program.I really enjoyed my meetings and was extremely active online. I got to a comfortable weight and became less vigilant about tracking points. That is when I started to gain the weight back. I have noticed the WW program has focused more on healthy eating of late, rather than just points. Not all points are created equally which can also be said of calories.

I had to stop attending WW mtgs because I could no longer afford to go. I found this site doing a search of online weight loss sources and have found that I love it. I like all the extra resources here that aren't available on WWs and I love nutritional break down of foods the site provides. The only problem is I've used this site for 2+ months, have done everything right in terms of calories and water, but really haven't lost any weight. The one thing I've increased this week is my exercise, so hopefully that will help.

As with any weight loss program, one gets out of it what one puts into it. Just about anyone can be successful using a variety of weight loss tools as they as they put the effort into to following the program and being honest with themselves.

JAZZYJAZZ86 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/4/11 4:33 A

I find myself still doing both. Using the old point system.

RENA1965 Posts: 17,878
1/3/11 10:08 P

Both sparks and ww are both great tools to have together. Sparks keeps balance so people don't abuse the points system...

Edited by: RENA1965 at: 1/3/2011 (22:09)
BABYNURSE2000 Posts: 678
1/3/11 10:06 P

Just chatted with some people from my Joplin team about WW. I used to be a leader, and had lost 69# with WW - back when they did "exchanges" instead of points. I tried the points system a few years ago, but don't think it really teaches you about healthy eating. If you don't know about exchanges, look up Learning how to eat foods from different food groups provides our bodies with what they need! I'm not agains WW - it's been a great program, but I do NOT like the points system.

LEANMACHINE711 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/3/11 10:01 P

I just wrote a message about this on another thread. I have been using Weight Watchers Online for the past 3 years and have actually gained 50 pounds. NOT because of Weight Watchers, but because of my lack of willpower and because it just got so boring.

I have lost weight previously with just counting calories so I decided that I'd give it another try. So here I am... 2nd day on Sparkpeople and already loving the website! Because it's free and there is a lot of extra fun tools to use that Weight Watchers does not have.

BANKER-CHUCK Posts: 6,730
1/3/11 8:44 P

Calorie counting. If people are used to WW point system that is fine. But everything I have geared up for and read is calorie related.

CMERLE1 Posts: 26,042
1/3/11 8:43 P

I checked out WW but stuck with Sparkpeople. I like this site a lot better also.

140PLEASE1 SparkPoints: (0)
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1/3/11 8:43 P

I switched from weight watchers also. And so far I am enjoying this so much more, and I dont feel limited. And for the extra points, with the calorie range its about the today I had 26 calories more than my lowest range, and I exercied more than what was required, so I feel pretty good.

KWHITEMORE SparkPoints: (0)
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1/3/11 8:32 P

I just canceled my WW online membership because I found sparkpeople. I have been doing WW on and off for 5 years it almost became 2nd nature. Has anyone else switched (either way) and found one program better than the other? Also, in WW I loved the extra points... when calorie counting does anyone do anything similar?

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