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BRENNA84 SparkPoints: (54,590)
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3/31/12 2:06 A

okay thanx. and you're right about potatoes, if I eat a small baked potato andeat it with butter and salt, its way more satisfying than others.

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3/29/12 12:58 P

Oh, I understand that. Carbs, cheese and salt, a winning combination if you want to bust the diet. I found that limiting dairy helps with cravings, too, but it takes about a week for the results to kick in. I now have dairy a couple of times a week.

WADINGMOOSE Posts: 1,048
3/29/12 11:00 A

When I first start cutting back carbs, I always always always crave stuff. And I HAVE craved potatoes (not fries). I just have to wait it out. It'll subside after about a week and usually is completely gone after 2 and I can continue eating healthy, moderate carb levels without the ridiculous cravings.

I mean, really, who craves Mac n' cheese (KD for my fellow Canadians) AND Stovetop stuffing at the same time? It's not easy to avoid. And I never used to believe my husband when he told me I'd stop craving that crap after a few days/weeks. But he was right.

RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
3/29/12 10:42 A

I hope one day, you try very low carb, and see the benefit. Your brain needs glucose to function, not carbs, and your body produces it naturally, in the liver. Plus there are no 0 carb plans, you will still eat some carbs.

You could even do the reverse of Atkins.. South Beach.. pick a starting carb range, and lower it till you see results, and cravings stop. I doubt anyone can diet long enough to lose significant weight while having cravings. When I see people losing this way, I wonder how they do it, even 10-15 lbs. It pains me to see people who have so much willpower quitting after losing 20 lbs in 5 months, when they could have lost 100 lbs with 1/4 of the willpower.

Hopefully, you are finding some way to push through.

ZOMA99 Posts: 24
3/29/12 8:53 A

"Results - I am craving bread and butter a LOT. or with cream cheese and jam. I have no idea why. its insane. I've been attacked suddenly by these carb cravings. arghhh"

These sound like fat and/or sugar cravings to me. Do you crave a plain baked potato or plain brown rice? Cravings for high fat/sugar foods are, in my opinion, symptoms of an addiction to "high reward" foods. It's popular right now to blame these cravings on so-called evil carbs, but it's not just any carbs that people crave or that make people gain or unable to lose weight. People crave refined carbs or simple sugars, usually combined with fat, which are high in calories, high in flavor, and low in satiety.

As far as satiety goes, studies have shown that plain potatoes are the most satiating food, even more than high fat or high protein foods. Complex carbs from whole foods are satisfying and nutritious and low in calories compared to high (or even moderate) fat foods, so you can eat enough of them to feel satisfied and still lose weight.

SABLENESS Posts: 7,621
3/29/12 8:24 A

I find that if I stay within the ranges suggested by SP for carbs, fat, and protein, I'm less likely to have out of control cravings. If i'm low on any of them, I'm predictably going to feel hungry and nibbly and likely to give in.

SPIDERGIRL502 SparkPoints: (60,681)
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3/29/12 7:24 A

I've recently reduced my carb intake to about 40% of my caloric intake (still within SP's range, just lower than I had been getting), and I've found that it's rare for me to crave carbs like bread or pasta. If I do crave them, I'll have a small portion of complex carbs, like whole wheat pasta or bread. And I find it's better if I have carbs earlier in the day, to give me the energy for my day.

I think it's definitely possible to limit/lower your carbs, without giving them up completely (or nearly completely). I'm not one to judge others for their dieting decisions, but choose what feels right for you.

My decision to lower my carbs had nothing to do with losing weight. I'm hypoglycemic and carbs (especially "simple" carbs) seemed to spike my blood sugar, so I'd spend a lot of time feeling dizzy and weak when my blood sugar would drop after a spike. I also started weight lifting and following the advice of 40% carbs, 30% protein and 30% fat. This diet has been working well for me, keeping my blood sugar level steady and making me feel satisfied and giving me enough energy to get through my day and my workouts.

This is just one person's opinion on the matter. I think it's definitely wise to do your own research and follow the advice of a professional. Best of luck to you!

MARITIMER3 SparkPoints: (215,872)
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3/28/12 10:47 P

You say you've been upping your protein and reducing your carbs. Are you staying within the range that SP recommends? Carbs are important to your health, especially to your brain. Don't reduce them too far.

BRENNA84 SparkPoints: (54,590)
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3/28/12 8:12 P

I just talked with my dr about a nutritionist or dietitian. she recommended experimentation. so I am. Its up and down. I am finding, that I don't NEED startch with EVERY meal. like if i eat it with a bowl of jello, then starch is tooo much. y'know. so maybe i'll give myself a choise of either a dessert or starch.not both or something.

I am finding myself relearning my fullness factor. I've been eating automatically but now less food is making me full. so I'll see how it goes.

GR8FULLONE SparkPoints: (5,705)
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3/25/12 9:48 A

Great information. Thanks everyone for sharing.

BRENNA84 SparkPoints: (54,590)
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3/25/12 1:37 A

I am not trying to eat LOW carb, but LoWER carb and upping protein to at least 20 -25%. that is what I want. Also, I am trying to eat better carbs. starches that aren't white bread and white potatoes all the time. something that is semi-starchy but easier on my pcos body. like sweet potatoes, rice cakes, ezekiel bread and small amounts of healthy fats. too much fat and protein makes my sides hurts.

TRILLIANTOO SparkPoints: (41,587)
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3/24/12 2:43 P

Are you trying to do a low carb way of eating? I see other people talking about that, but is everyone assuming you're trying to eat low carb, or are you simply trying to increase your protein so you're cutting carbs to meet your calorie totals, or what?

It would help if we could see your Nutrition Tracker. I tried to load your page, but for some reason my computer / internet connection isn't working and I can't get anywhere with that.

How many total carbs are you getting? or if you're low carbing, how many net carbs are you going for? How much protein are you trying to eat now? how much fat? What calorie range are you going for? How active are you?

There are SO many reasons why you could be craving bread and butter, and abstaining may or may not be the right solution depending what you're trying to do, how active you are, etc.

ONLINEASLLOU SparkPoints: (73,365)
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3/24/12 11:11 A

I agree with Russell on this. The only way to break an addiction (cravings) is abstinence. For me, going through a 2-week, very low carb induction period solved my carb craving problems 5 years ago.

After that induction period, I ate very low carb for a while, then gradually increased my carbs (focusing the low glycemic type) to a point at which I now eat what most people would consider "moderate carb." It has kept my diabetes so well controlled that I don't take any medications for it.

I find that when I over-indulge in carbs ocassionally, I get some carb cravings again. But I can nip them in the bud with just a day or two of eating low carb again. I can then "safely" return back to a moderate carb intake with no cravings.

My protein intake is usually within the SparkPeople recommended range and my fat intake is usually above the recommended range -- but I emphasize the "good" fats as much as I can.

Edited by: ONLINEASLLOU at: 3/24/2012 (11:14)
RUSSELL_40 Posts: 16,826
3/24/12 10:53 A

The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that these " moderate carb " diets were invented to make people think low carb doesn't work.

The only thing that worked for me was Atkins Induction.. very strict, but the best way to break an addiction is abstinence. Some bread, made me want MORE bread. Some sugar made me want MORE sugar.

You need a break from most carbs, then slowly re-introduce carbs one by one, see how they affect you. You may be able to have potatoes, but not bread. The goal at the end is not to just cut carbs blindly, but to find out which carbs make you have hunger/cravings, and avoid those, so you can control how much you eat.

I find I eat a bit more protein, but switched from 50% carbs to 50% fat. Then cut my carbs to 10% I actually eat less ( 1600 cals ), and have no hunger. I know how you feel. How the hell can you eat properly, when you are thinking about carbs, and feel hungry. We are only human.. we will eventually shovel a bagel, macaroni & cheese, or ice cream in our face till we feel better temporarily, then shame.. Tomorrow, we can start the cycle again!!

Or you can make changes. Hope you figure it all out.

Edited by: RUSSELL_40 at: 3/24/2012 (10:53)
BRENNA84 SparkPoints: (54,590)
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3/24/12 1:24 A

okay, thanx. I am not tring for high protein, maybe just higher than I was eating. I don't know. I think maybe I need to consult a dietitian. Maybe I should go back to how I was eating before. so confusing. thanx.

RYOKOSITH Posts: 161
3/24/12 12:04 A

If you go low-carb, it's not the protein you want to up. You need to up the fat in your diet to compensate for the fact that you are rebalancing what type of fuel you are feeding yoru body.

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3/23/12 8:53 P

Eating low carb is not good for body, simple fact. It puts stress on your liver and kidneys to eat low carb and high protein, it reduces your energy for everyday activities and especially exercise via ATP production. Carbs are you bodies main source of energy, then fat. Fat is a great source of energy if you aren't performing high demand activities. When the body has to utilize protein as a energy source, it isn't very efficient at it and your energy levels will drop. When you reduce your carb intakes too low, your body will automatically start craving them
because they NEED them for energy.
BUT with that being said, I agree that some carbs have bad effects on some people. I had to quit eating bread altogether (whether it be simple or complex carbs) because if I had one slice of bread, I had to have 10! Oatmeal though doesn't affect me that way neither does brown rice. You have to find your carb trigger foods and knock them out. My diet still consists of 60% carbs but most of those carbs are from fruits and veggies and oatmeal and rice.
I am a personal trainer and one thing that I recommend to my clients is always getting enough carbs because I want them to eat healthy for the rest of their lives, not diet and hate life for 3 months and lose weight until they stop dieting and then gain it all back. Only endurance athletes and people who do large amounts if weight lifting need to up their protein intake over the daily 10-15 % daily amount. Even then, they need to up their carb intake also to fuel those tough workouts.
I am not coming down on you for eating low carb, I just want to save you all the dieting pitfalls that happened to me over and over until I learned in school about nutrition and I had a desire to eat healthy and feel energetic.

NAYPOOIE Posts: 12,077
3/23/12 7:05 P

Low carb replaces carb calories with fat calories. Protein tends to go up a bit, just because a lot of low carb food is also higher protein.

But if you're going to lower carbs, you need to increase fat. Unless it's a very minor carb reduction, you don't want to replace that many calories with protein. Fat is meant to supply calories. That's why we store it for the lean times.

How far did you cut your carbs?

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3/23/12 5:19 P

Are you in your eating range for fat? Fat promotes satiety and could help you avoid the carb-cravings!

For a while, I was eating low or no-fat everything. It wasn't until I started eating more nuts, nut butters, avocado, olive oil, earth balance that I began to feel more satisfied.

I recommend it!

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3/23/12 2:59 P

I just stay away from bread altogether because it is easier that way.

BRENNA84 SparkPoints: (54,590)
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3/23/12 2:54 P

okay recently I have tried upping my protein a lil bit and decreasing my carbs.

Results - I am craving bread and butter a LOT. or with cream cheese and jam. I have no idea why. its insane. I've been attacked suddenly by these carb cravings. arghhh

any idea on hwat to do and how to help. its insane for me.

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