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Meatless Meals Benefit Your Health

A ''Flexitarian'' Diet Meets in the Middle

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  • ODIROM
    Oh, side note. I have an "Adopt a Vegangelical" program going already, where I eat twice the meat in the name of one of the lovely Vegans who stopped me in the middle of a meal to tell my how immoral I am. (The term vegangelical is the term for the close minded open mouthed narrow minded moralist who wants to tell YOU what to eat while ignoring your point of view)

    I guess I could start a "Double Meat Monday" for my vegetarian friends. Just a thought. I could also ask for a separate cow for each patty of my double cheese burger -- to help cut down on the greenhouse gasses. Greenhouse gas from cow methane is the number one contributor to....so I do my part: I'm eating the cows!!!

    What is better than meat and potatoes? Meat and MEAT!

    O - 2/8/2011 8:23:21 AM
  • ODIROM
    No thank you. I am a reduced carbohydrate Primal Carnivore lifestyler. Meat and fat are good for you and part of a healthy diet. I find it quite ironic that if you say you are on a low carb diet (note, I said reduced carb, not low carb) everyone yells at you because you are going without one of the food groups. [Regardless of the fact that there is no such thing as an 'essential' carb.] But when people remove meat from their diet, nobody seems to mind. And if you suggest that grains should be avoided, or sugar is a culprit in obesity, everyone loses their mind. If grains are so good, why are they the top choice of fattening cattle and pigs in this country?

    Everyone may eat what they like, but I will jump on the band wagon and suggest that striking something from your approved eating list is probably not the best way to go.

    O - 2/8/2011 8:15:54 AM
  • I can remeber growing up as a kid my Mom always made fish on Friday ( even when we didn't have to anymore) . It didn't kill me I LIKE fish- even if it was that disgusting Frazer Vale fish and chips. - 12/14/2010 8:33:03 PM
  • KARATE_KID
    Flexitarians? Part-time vegetarians? Sounds like a simple balanced diet to me. Why do we need more labels on people?

    Many vegetarians are health conscious and knowledgeable people, but I've also seen overweight vegetarians and vegetarians who restrict their diets to the point that they're actually unhealthy and unable to function in the real world. It all comes down to a sensible approach to overall health. - 12/5/2010 7:55:05 AM
  • I became a vegetarian about 3 months ago. It was something I'd considered briefly several times but it wasn't until I watched a film called ' The cove' that something clicked and I stopped eating meat and fish over night. I'm not trying to convert anyone, being a veggie does not make me a better person I know this - people can eat whatever they like, but I'm just going to throw out some ideas. sensible ones I believe.

    1) environmental. The fishing industry is one of the most damaging in environmental terms. If we continue to fish in the same ways as we do now, the oceans will literally have very few fish in 50 years time. We are not giving enough time for fish species to repopulate.
    Also, the amount of toxins (there's a whole lot of them, especially mercury) in the seas build up through the food chain and find their way into fish and onto your dinner plate - check it out online. In addition the carbon consumption from livestock raising and the factories/slaughterhouses is a major contributor to climate change.
    2) economical terms. It is cheaper to be veggie for individuals. In economics, it's been proven that if the same amount of land that is used to raise livestock was used to grow plants the amount of food produced could feed a whole lot more people. The amount of water and food given to livestock would be better spent on humans who need it. I'm not sure how em_ortiz could write that there is enough food in the world for the current population, you only have to look at poorer developed countries to realize there really is not enough food going around. Otherwise why are people still starving to death? countries such as Pakistan who recently experienced devastating floods have had to have millions of dollars worth of food imported because millions of people are without food. Where were the governmental food reserves there? Of course governments and corruption play a major part as well as economic factors but the basic fact is that there is not enough food in the world to feed the amount of people.
    Aside from personal feelings about animals I think these are good reasons for all people to cut down on meat/fish consumption.
    From recent personal experience I can tell you that I feel a lot healthier. I'm packing in nutrients everyday. I have more energy, my skin and hair looks better. I've lost weight and I have more money. To be a little bit gross my digestive system is also much improved. I have experienced no negative effects from becoming a vegetarian. Whilst I understand that everyone is different, the benefits will generally effect most people. and as long as you dont pig out on carbs all day, you should lose weight fairly easily.
    These are just my thoughts, take them or leave them. keep on being healthy I guess whichever way you can - 9/13/2010 12:05:32 PM
  • Hmm, I disagree - grass fed, range-free meat is what I eat along with veggies, a winning combo. Grains are just bad, even whole grain - they are off my plate. - 8/29/2010 8:34:19 PM
  • Why I don't eat meat...and not just for health reasons:

    For her book Slaughterhouse, Gail Eisnitz, chief investigator for the Humane Farming Association (HFA), interviewed slaughterhouse workers in the U.S. who say that, because of the speed with which they are required to work, animals are routinely skinned while apparently alive, and still blinking, kicking, and shrieking. Eisnitz argues that this is not only cruel to the animals, but also dangerous for the human workers, as cows weighing several thousands of pounds thrashing around in pain are likely to kick out and debilitate anyone working near them.[11]

    According to the HFA, Eiznitz interviewed slaughterhouse workers representing over two million hours of experience, who, without exception, told her that they have beaten, strangled, boiled, and dismembered animals alive, or have failed to report those who do. The workers described the effects the violence has had on their personal lives, with several admitting to being physically abusive or taking to alcohol and other drugs.[12]

    - 6/28/2010 5:17:02 PM
  • Even though they are not the healthiest of choices....I'll pick MorningStarFarms anything, any day over hamburger patties laced with ammonia, or chickens feed with arsenic in their feed. It would be interesting if one were able to compare MSF entrees when it was still a relatively small company..before it was purchased by Kellogg's... - 6/28/2010 5:09:55 PM
  • Thanks for the reminder that not all meat "substitutes" are healthy. We also need to be careful that we don't eat a disproportionate amount of carbs. Many meatless meals include loads of pasta and/or rice. - 4/28/2010 1:04:25 PM
  • CEANNCAIT
    I'm quite surprised this article mentions vegetarian soy-based cold cuts and meat replacements as though they are healthy options. They are absolutely *loaded* with chemicals and highly processed. Just because something doesn't have meat in it doesn't automatically make it good for you (check out the label on a Morningstar Farms burger one of these days...I can't even pronounce half the ingredients). My family are "flexitarians" (what a silly word) and try to get the meat we do eat from local farmers who raise it in a humane and responsible way. All things in moderation. - 4/24/2010 4:17:41 PM
  • 13WIDOW
    I'm passing on all the info about cleaning green. I also buy borax or 20-mule team borax at least once a year and sprinkle it on my carpets, working it in with a broom, as well as sprinkle it out in the yard. We're the only house in the neighborhood with no flea, tick or roach problems (we live by a park)! - 3/17/2010 11:35:11 AM
  • I am loving this article...I had already been doing my version of "Meatless Mondays" here at work, where about 2-3 days out of the week, I'll pack a meatless lunch. I didn't really do it intentionally, but it just so happens I love tofu and veggies. Great advice, and I think this wknd I'll whip myself up a batch of meatless chili loaded with veggies. Thanks!! - 3/10/2010 4:58:09 PM
  • Are there people who think they need meat at every meal? Yes. Yes, there are. People like me who, after trying full-blown veganism for "health reasons" and found only weight gain and bloating, did a lot of research and ended up switching to a diet modeled after our hunter-gatherer ancestors. That means that, instead of meat, I've cut out grains, sugars, legumes, and dairy, and eat a diet of meat, fruit, vegetables, and nuts. You know that advice about sticking to the perimeter of the grocery store? That's me, to the most extreme level.

    Of the two options, veggies and meat or veggies and grains, I get more nutrients eating veggies and meat. Grains just don't have nutritional value for humans. If they did, grains wouldn't have been fortified with minerals at the turn of the 20th century so people would stop coming down with diseases like scurvy! If they did, then Total cereal wouldn't need to fortify with 100% of your daily value of everything under the sun! A human should be able to get proper nutrition *without* supplementation, and to do that, one needs a diet with meat, fruits, vegetables, and nuts.

    Of course, one also needs to be open to eating organ meats and such, and, well, that's definitely a touchy subject...

    So, yes, actually there is an entire philosophy out there that centers around primarily meat and vegetables, followed by some fruits and nuts. But by the same token, there are actually people who can follow the Paleo diet and still be vegetarian or even vegan. They are not mutually exclusive, you'll just be eating a lot more nuts and perhaps some cheese.

    I would like to also say that, as an avid meat-eater, I still eat WAY more fresh vegetables than the average vegetarian! How's that for irony?

    Now, playing my own devil's advocate, I will admit that for people who just generally eat an unhealthy diet, throwing in a vegetarian meal can be an excellent way to get the vegetables that they otherwise are shunning. But please, pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease DON'T take it as an open invitation to eat platefuls of pasta with jarred tomato sauce. That's no better, in the end.

    It's about whole foods in their natural form, whatever diet you choose. - 2/27/2010 8:15:59 PM
  • EM_ORTIZ
    Yes, the Physicians' Committee for Responsible Medicine is a front group for PETA (as a vegan who takes animal rights seriously, I hate PETA), but that doesn't mean that the individuals in the group haven't done massive, peer-reviewed studies of nutrition and plant-based diets.

    How about taking the word of the World Health Organization, American Dietetic Association & the British Medical Association, all of which say that well-planned vegan, vegetarian & omnivorous diets can all be healthy, in all stages of life? Anecdotal evidence is not much compared to three of the largest, most respected medical organizations in the world.

    Secondly, there is enough food in the world for our current population. Much food is stored by governments & organizations to keep it at a set price, and "extras" are destroyed. Additionally, 1/3rd of the world's food crops go to feed animals, much of which they shouldn't be eating in the first place and some of which could also be going to feed humans (a very small percentage, though as was pointed out). There will be a problem if we grow more, but that has to do with a lot of factors, including pollution run off from farms where animals are kept. - 2/10/2010 11:27:11 PM
  • I'm always baffled by the thought that there are people who think they need meat for every meal (or every lunch and dinner). Do these people really exist? If not, then how do articles like this ("leave the meat out of your lunches") get written? I don't consider myself a vegetarian, and I doubt I would claim the moniker of 'flexitarian', but we probably only eat meat at 2 or 3 dinners per week (and very rarely at lunch, unless it's in leftovers). I never considered it to be a big deal! - 2/10/2010 8:52:49 PM

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