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Guide to Herbal Supplements
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5/27/2011 8:43:24 PM
I agree with talking to your doctor, or at least your pharmacist, to make sure your herbal supplements do not conflict with, reduce the efficiacy of, or even worse, increase the action of any prescriptions.
Also, don't assume that an herbal/natural product is better than a prescription. I take generic lovastatin for high cholesterol. My sister-in-law takes Red Yeast Rice instead of the prescription. My RX has been around for 30-40 years with no major side effects. I get periodic blood tests to check my liver - I'm also on other RXs for different health issues.
The Red Yeast Rices is not regulated by the FDA or any other oversight organization. Studies have shown that some brands tested have the prescription ingredient that is the same as lovastatin. However, the amounts found in various brands (and in different batches of the same brands) are different - some have a lot of this ingredient, some have hardly any.
Imagine what would happen if someone were taking both the prescription statin drug PLUS the Red Yeast Rice - that could cause serious liver damage.
What I find most ironic in this situation with myself & my SIL, is that my prescription is $4/month at Walmart. She pays around $30/month for her "natural" supplement. She is on Medicare and Social Security, and she really can't afford to spend all that money. She would be financially better off getting the prescription. But she doesn't want to because she wants to use the "natural" supplement instead, even though she doesn't know how much, if any, medicine she's getting.
There are also studies that black cohosh is detrimental to breast cancer patients/survivors whose tumors were estrogen-receptor positive. Many women take this to relieve menopause symptoms - a double whammy because many women go into menopause when having chemo for breast cancer. Black Cohosh and some phyto-estrogen products, like soy, reduce the efficacy of the medication given to ER-positive patients (Tamoxifen).
Bottom line - be very careful if you have any health issues, and don't believe everything you hear at the health food store (they want to sell you their products), or read on the internet - get your information from a reliable source, not the website that is selling the products.
I also wanted to mention that cranberry juice is - as others mentioned - good for the urinary tract system before the bugs get in there and create havoc. It is excellent for those of us livign with cystitis because we cannot take anything to get "rid" of the cystitis. When I feel the cystitis is starting to surface (as it rumbles underneath but usually with probiotics I do fine) I make a mix of real cranberries (frozen) with water, cranberry juice (without added sugar) and a splash of real lemon juice. I blend it and drink once per day. It is a powerful surge of "cleansers" and I feel better within a couple days. I found cranberry supplements useless for cystitis and just plain juice is also useless. I recommended this to a couple friends who were recently diagnosed and they really found a difference. There are facts to back up the protective powers of cranberries, its just where one chooses to find the research.
Just as with doctors and nursing practioners, homeopathic physicans and naturalpath doctors can be wrong. As I metioned earlier, I had a ND that almost killed me. She sold me supplements, she had me on a restricted diet and the one herbal supplement she sold me for my thyroid issue was an actual prescribed medication. She claimed that it wasn't avaiable in Canada and charged me a high price to ship it up from the USA. It is avaiable in Canada, is well known and while it is organic, it is still a prescription - Armour. The ND prior to her, he was "a quack" that sold me hundreds of dollars of "snake oil" - supplements that did nothing to heal me. I was upfront and honest with him, he was not honest with me. I fired him publicly when he attempted to sell me a device to stop me from having hunger pangs. He knew I was recovering from eating disorders (bulemia) and he knew I had a blown thyroid. Yet knowing I was eating a very small amount due to no appetite, he "diagnosed" me with overeating and laziness as the reason for rapid weight gain. I dumped the supplements, dumped him and continued on with my MD, who prescribed Armour when we realized it worked far more effectively for me than Synthroid.
Those who state that herbal supplements are safe, there are no deaths, do they realize that this area of "medicine" is highly unregulated? That there isn't a standard of training, that the herbs are not standardized and stats are not kept with the same strictness as pharmaceuticals? Do they also realize that many pharmaceuticals are organic medicines, such as Armour? A few people mentioned that MDs are not practiced in homeopathic medicines or approaches which is a fallacy. I trained over 30yrs ago and we were discussing homepathic medicine and we were trained as nurses to ask all supplements patients take - prescribed and OTC, including vitamins and herbs. As a nurse I saw children come in overdosed on iron supplements, ill from herbs and yes, from well meaning parents who didn't understand that "natural" doesn't always mean safe. Herbal supplements, vitamins and mineral supplements have to be treated as serious as any prescribed medication.
My doctor and specialist are very well trained in this area and if they do not know, they do the research. As did my family doctor prior to my current doctor. Nursing practioners are very well rounded in their approach and education. It makes total sense to involve everyone in your health care especially when you are similar to myself and living with several chronic health issues. It just makes sense.
Be careful! Not all herbal remedies will work well with medications...it is easy to overdose..I use both and try to be wise in my choices. I think this is a much better alternative to trashing people we do not know especially when we are challenging motives.
Just use wisdom and the common sense the good Lord gave you. JMHO!
This article is misnamed, it is not a guide to natural supps at all it is warning people away from them.I wonder if sparkpeople is funded by large pharmaceutical companies with articles like this. If not, why write this?
On cranberry for UTI and garlic and echinacea (and elderberry extract) for immune boosting: They all work most effectively if taken AT THE OUTSET. In other words, they work better if you take them when you first feel symptoms coming on. I take cranberry frequently to avoid UTIs.
Also, my last comment should have read: "It is not a RELAXING medication. It is for sleeping. It will knock you out, period. Take with extreme caution." (Typos! Blech!)
I was also prepared to object to this article, based on the teaser info, but there's actually some pretty good, common-sense advice here. Of COURSE you should tell your doctor if you are taking herbs. For that matter, you should inform your doctor of ANYTHING you are taking, particularly if--like me--you don't see just one doctor!
Valerian is for sleep, period. It's not an anti-anxiety or rexing medication. It will knock you out. Use with extreme caution.
I wish the medical establishment would be more open to alternatives for health care and that doctors would become more educated about it. With health care costs going up and many people out of work, alternatives are often much less expensive than mainstream medicine. Plus, less dependence on the toxic chemical foisted upon us by Big Pharma is a GOOD thing for our health!
As a side note, I DO strongly object to the author's obvious disdain for herbal medicine, as evidenced by its being referred to as "folklore." Herbal medicine has been around for centuries, and I can assure you that it's very real. It would be nice if the writers on this site would be more journalistic and less editorial in tone.
I would worry about taking any supplement that "increased my metabolism" as it seems like many of those make your heart race, which just seems dangerous. "Natural" doesn't mean "safe". There are a lot of things which are "natural" but which can kill you (i.e. certain varieties of mushroom, etc). I'd prefer to stick with things that are approved by the FDA personally.
What a bunch of mis-stated facts! First of all; this concept of going to a medical doctor to tell them about the herbs you are taking makes about as much sense as going to a plumber for an electrical problem. Most medical doctors have no training in herbal medicines! Herbal medicine has been misunderstood in this country because people try to make it fit into the drug model this country runs on. Why do you think most of the people in your poll use herbs?--Because they work. You do not see thousands of deaths due to herbal medicine but you do see more than 250,000 deaths due to drugs annually in this country. I have been studying and using herbal medicine for over 30 years and don't take any medications--i'm 68 and healthy.
I have successfully used cranberry to treat existing UTIs; so have many people I know so I'm not sure why there "is no evidence" saying it works. The tone of the article seems slanted and trying to steer people away from herbals.
Of course, as with any medicine, you still need to do your research with herbals and know what it is you are taking. I would have preferred advice on where to go to get information & how to contact a professional ("talk to your family doctor about herbal suplements" is a joke, most of them haven't got a clue & will only push the pharms.)
I respectfully disagree about her being a voice of reason. Conventional medicine tells me I am to 'trust' them (pharmaceutical company's, doctors, actual meds themselves) because they are regulated by our 'government'. Ha. That is the main reason to NOT trust them in my humble opinion. =)
I go to the conventional doctor and get prescribed some fancy and expensive medication to help clear the allergy levels from my blood. It is $2100 per shot and it is recommended to take for 6-12 months. With insurance, I may pay $150 per shot. I look up this drug and guess what? It is made from CHINESE HAMSTER OVARY. Xolair. Look it up. Anyhow, I have to keep going to this doctor monthly for the shot and follow up. $$$$ in her pocket, the pharmaceutical pocket so on and so forth....
I go to doctor of Naturopathic Medicine and she teaches me what I can safely take, how to take it, and when to take it. She writes it out for me. In the future, when I have this problem, I know what to get, how to take it and get better. Money in MY pocket.
I go to a specialist of Naturopathic Medicine like many other people do to get professional advice on herbs. I believe the herbal products are safe.
Of course, trying to take a herb one knows nothing about can be unsafe. It is best to pay a doc of Naturopathic Medicine to get one on the right track.
Thanks for the voice of reason! Too many people put their rational minds on hold when they hear the snake oil salesmen's miraculous claims. Thanks for giving the real information and appropriate cautions about these herbal substances.
Becky Hand( the author) is also the woman that said that Aspartame is safe. I take herbal supplements and homeopathic medicines for everything and if I would have continued taking prescription medication created in a laboratory by " science" I would have been dead today( I was diagnosed with Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis and given 3 years to live and did not get better until I refused to take the prescriptions because I was so miserable from the side effects I just wanted to die) There was a time when science was for the greater good, now it is for profit and every science project has its own agenda. I feel safer taking supplements ( herbs, vitamins, alternative meds) than I do taking anything approved by the FDA and here is another thing folks.........................most other countries DO NOT allow Monsanto or chemicals like RoundUp or GMO seed into their country so eating herbs and supplements created in other countries is safe too. As of 2006 54.6 MILLION hectares of land in the United States is GMO crop. In 2006 less than .1 million hectare of Mexico, less than 2 million hectare of Argentina , less than 3 million hectare of China. So go ahead and eat those fruits and vegi's from other countries because the FDA is a great big joke.
2/7/2011 11:19:10 AM
I have used Black Cohosh to control hot flashes and night sweats with great success. I'm very pleased to find an alternative to hormonally-based medications. Another great thing is I can use it for a few months and when I've stopped taking it I've gone for many months with no symptoms. It also relieves symptoms quickly when I start it again when the flashes have come back.
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