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PACKERMAN
6/13/06 12:42 P
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Heather, I had the same thing happen, drank a ton (beer = 6lbs/gal. 2000/6=363gal I lost track at 6 beers) and still lost a pound. Sometimes things just happen that way, Keep it up !!
I bought 5 12packs on Thursday, had some people over on Sunday for a Surprise party for my wife, but all 5 cases are gone. OUCH!!! I wish I could limit myself to 3 beers in a weekend. I have a hard tiem limiting myself to 3 beers in an hour.
I hope everyone is enjoying their summer so far.
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POPEYETHETURTLE
6/12/06 11:52 A
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Heather: Glad you had a good time. As to the weight loss, I'll bet it's back plus, tomorrow. Alcohol is a huge diuretic, and that's one of the reasons for a hangover. You're brain cells are actually dehydrated. After a night out consuming alcohol, try drinking 2-3 glasses of water - or better yet, Gator Aide. You'll feel much better off when you wake up!
Mike: Didn't mean to insult you, but young is Einsteinian, that is, it's relative. Sometimes you don't run into anyone who knows or cares enough to let you in on some of the little secrets to living with the great god *alcohol*. FYI, and it really pains me to say this, you are young enough to be one of my sons - so you are, relative to me, young. Just thinking of the strength and resiliance and endurance I had at your age .....................
Bob
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CHRIS.CORRADO
6/11/06 7:21 P
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Was out with the family yesterday, kept the evening/night to 5 beers (over like 5 hours) so I'm real happy with that - i didn't do the water thing, i didn't drink enough water last night at all.
Sounds like you had a good time Heather - great for you!
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VERNONHEATHER
6/11/06 6:10 P
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Holy dina did I go to town last night. Can't even remember the drink count, but the night was definitely a good one. I reluctantly got on the scale this morning - blam - down one pound. I am very confused and attributing it to the crazy water levels in my body from the drinking.
Cheers, (groans and holds her head)
Heather
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Thanks Bob you totally answered my question.
Now for the record I aint a young inexperienced drinker. I had more than my share in my youth. Then in my 30s I became a tea totaller. (or however ya spell it) Then I was diagnosed with diabetes type 2. Theat was several years ago. Just recently I rediscovered how flavorable beer is yet knew it was bad for diabetics. I read the ingredients and could not figure out why it was bad. Then Bob with all the knowledge and worldly wisdom really helped me out and answered my rather simple question whereupon in turn I related it to my fellow peers who was wondering the same thing. So by answering one question Bob has touched many lives. Good show!
Meanwhile I will limit my beer to three on the weekend (a day) making it a 6 pack all weekend at the max. I will consume light beer.
In all seriousness thanks for the help.
Mike
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CHRIS.CORRADO
6/8/06 8:57 P
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| Yep Bob, exactly - I'm not saying the people that ask them are stupid, but some of the questions sure are. . .
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POPEYETHETURTLE
6/6/06 12:52 A
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You mean like, "I'm on line with my bank and I put my card in this little thingy on the front of the computer, but it won't give me any money, what's wrong?"
It's the teacher and trainer in me. I give people credit for having some common sence, and forty years of experience should have knocked that stupid proclivity into a cocked hat. I apologize.
However, for what seems to be a relatively new (and maybe youg) drinker, it's the seasoned (or pickled)reponsibility to train up the lads and lassies as best we can.
Bob
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VERNONHEATHER
6/6/06 12:51 A
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Bob - it's so nice to see you branching out! And I'll take Hot Heather over some of my other nicknames anyday (Gimpy McNemo being the one used most often). I've got my own birthday party at the pub on Saturday - out the freakin window. The other concern with booze is the social aspect - inhibitions are lowered, mistakes could be made, etc etc, wink wink nudge nudge.
Good luck everyone
Heather
PS Sorry - I don't believe in luck, so a better phrase would be best wishes for peace in your lives.
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CHRIS.CORRADO
6/5/06 11:09 P
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| Bob - I'm sorry but as a person who works in technology support I'm going to have to disagree with you, there are stupid questions!
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POPEYETHETURTLE
6/5/06 10:06 P
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Ammewells,
Sorry, I danced all around the question without answering specifically. I am an insulin dependant diabetic. Alcohol is the equivelant of pure sugar in liquid form. It is absorbed almost instantly and your blood sugar can skyrocket.
Bob
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POPEYETHETURTLE
6/5/06 10:02 P
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Ammewells: There are no stupid questions. Only stupid people who don't ask questions.
The deal on beer, or any alcoholic drink, is the number of calories in the drink. While low in carbohydrates, the body changes alcohol into acetate in the body, and the body then burns the acetate JUST LIKE CARBOHYDRATES. Also, alcohol is a very POWERFUL appetite ACCELERATOR. The more you drink, the more difficult it is not to eat.
So how much can you drink and not go over your calorie max?
1-12oz beer (american) = 144 cal
1-5oz glass of red wine = 102 cal
1 shot of Apricot Brandy = 80 cal
1 shot of drambuie = 110 cal
1 shot 94 proof gin = 115 cal
1 shot of scotch, whiskey or rye = 107 cal
Some common drinks are:
Rum & coke = 127 cal
Rusty Nail = 223 cal
Brandy Alexander = 253 cal
Grasshopper = 255 cal
Harvey Wallbanger = 258 cal
Mai Tai = 310 cal
The particular bad thing for women is some of the acetate is converted to cellulite - which is very difficult to be rid of.
When you drink, make sure you account for the calories.
Mick, the reason that I specified American beer is that European beers are higher in alcohol content and higher in calories.
Bob
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okay this is a stupid question,
but first hello. I have not been around spark for a while. Personal problems and all that jazz. Anyway I am back and hello.
Now the stupid question, what is it about beer that is bad for diabetics?
I have recently rediscovered that I like beer. I limit myself to 3 on a weekend. This weekend I had two. I looked up nutertional info and see nothing in it to cause a blood sugar raise yet everyone says beer is bad for diabetics.
Mike
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an interesting, and informative post Bob - cheers!
Mick.
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POPEYETHETURTLE
6/4/06 3:15 P
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From an OLD, experienced drinker. The reason the water works is that it rehydrates you. Alcohol by its nature causes you to loose fluids (in one end, out the other). IF you stick to the water, alcohol, water bit, and drink about a liter of water (quart for us americans) with an aspirin before crashing, almost the only hangover you'll experience is from the cig's and lack of sleep - which is much easier to survive.
I was never what you would call a heavy drinker, a case of flippies would last about two days and a fifth of good Scotch would last through the night, but age and diabetes took it's toll, so now I'm stuck with an occasional NA beer.
I spent about three years in Germany, and they have local brew pubs almost everywhere. They also have their own branded beer coasters. My wife still can't understand why I'm so proud of the 156 different beer coasters from Germany.
Here's a tactic for telling if you're too inebriated to drive. Take a beer coaster and hang it over the edge of the table, about 2/3 hanging over. Place your dominant hand below it and flip the coaster into the air. If you can't catch it, you shouldn't drive.
By the way, thanks to Hot Heather for mentioning this tavern on another topic (Heather, absolutely NO insult meant or implied. I'm old enough to be your dad or grandad - even though I'm old doesn't mean I'm dead! I mean the Hot as a compliment.)
Thanks for bringing back memories (some of which are absolutely spookie, like swimming the Colorado river and back when inhibitions had been washed away - no pun intended).
Bob
Mick and all. I don't think there's anyone on this topic I haven't "virtually" met before. It's great to see friends in another venue.
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Be aware that to do so you will be fighting two main problems with the process of getting healthy, which is what people really want when they say they are dieting.
1) hunger
I can help you get past hunger with a suggestion that you get PSYLLIUM, which is a non-food, all fiber, all natural material that expands on contact with water. You take a heaping tablespoon in a glass of water and it normally fills me up for the whole day. If I should get hungry I take another glass.
2)Motivaion. These bulletins are filled with people who have lost the will to succeed. They grasp at any excuse to get off track. I suggest you stay away from people like that like the plague. Instead I suggest you log in to SP each day and read and take credit for reading at least 5 motivational messages and also write a few messages to others telling them of how and why you are being a success. In so doing you will help them, but more you will help yourself!
You have to develop the mindset NOW! to keep going when the scale says you are flat or going the wrong way...and believe me it will happen. It will also train your mind so that in the future you do not gain back all the weight you worked so hard to lose.
Remember this slogan:
If you do what you always did you will get what you always got. That works both ways...in most cases it keeps people from being a success but for the motivated person it helps him/her to keep being successful.
Myles
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CHRIS.CORRADO
6/2/06 10:34 P
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| quit drinking, that's crazy talk!
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i keep going for a couple of weeks and then have one night and get wasted-
the other day i was drinking loads of pints of strong lager, and downing them in one, and even put a double vodka in one pint, and downed that!
everyone else at the pub was pretty much sober - i hate that!
Mick.
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| My wife and I were going for a walk on Wednesday, made it across the street where I stayed for the next 5 hours drinking way, way, WAY to much. I felt like doo-doo all day yesterday. I even talked about quitting drinking completely. I feel much better today though. I'll just be more careful next time.
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CHRIS.CORRADO
5/31/06 10:06 P
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| Damn - went out tonight, 3 beers and fried clam strips. . . not good, need to work it off in the morning.
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PACKERMAN
5/31/06 12:18 P
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| I've been off line for the last week or so, been unbelievably busy at work. I didn't do too well over Memorial Day Weekend. Between Thursday night and Monday night polished off most of 5 12packs and some brandy and some wine. Not a good weekend for food either. Or exercise. I'll start anew... I need to get some NA Beer again.
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CHRIS.CORRADO
5/26/06 5:45 P
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| No parties for the familey this weekend so I'll probably be able to forgo the beer.
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HEYWORTH83
5/26/06 4:40 P
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oh well at least you know you can go without!
i think the alcohol was initially the main reason i thought i would fail at my weight loss - i was totally surprised how easy i found it to go out to the pub and not drink!
i still drink a bit - i'm goin on holiday soon and i'm gonna get wasted every day for a week, but that's different!
sorry for boring anyone who is reading this message!
Mick.
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CHRIS.CORRADO
5/24/06 1:37 P
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| That's ironic - I go months w/out a drink some times (not intentionally - just happens) and the last few weeks I've been out a few times. . .
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HEYWORTH83
5/24/06 5:54 A
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Just realised I haven't had a drink for a couple of weeks. Well that's all I wanted to say.
Mick.
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HEYWORTH83
5/22/06 6:16 A
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you got that right-i wouldn't dare ask for a water at the pub. everyone sat at the bar would glare at me i reckon - i get funny looks when i order orange squash!
lol.
Mick.
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| I also drink juice at bars. Orange juice and pineapple are never hard to find. The best advantage over water is, no one knows what you're drinking, so you don't get the omnipresent, "What's wrong, why aren't you drinking? Is everything ok?" Ugh.
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| The every other or between method seems to work for me. The greatest thing that I have noticed is that I have something to sip on. Sort of like a crutch. I still am drinking something, but half of it is healthier.
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| I agree w/ Chris. The every-other rule works great for me. :)
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CHRIS.CORRADO
5/21/06 6:44 P
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| I went with the water between drinks thing yesterday (and today) works pretty well.
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VERNONHEATHER
5/21/06 12:31 P
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Holy dina - went out last night and ordered a pitcher of strawberry daquiri . . . the amount of sugar and crap in that drink, it makes me cringe! And I'm coming up to birthday season, so hopefully I will make better choices in the next couple of weeks.
Heather
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Was at a party last night and downed 3-4 newcastles and a number 9 pretty early... But then I finally remembered to drink some water. I should have had more water throughout the night, but oh well. I did ok considering. :)
Hope the water b/w drinks works out for you chris c!
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CHRIS.CORRADO
5/19/06 5:38 P
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That's great Packerman.
I'm going to a party Saturday night, I plan to try the water between drinks thing. Maybe that will work for bar food too. . .
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VERNONHEATHER
5/19/06 11:00 A
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Congrats Packerman - perhaps you have become a member of the converted! Keep on keepin on.
And yes, I did change my picture, did you prefer the other one? I've got about a zillion Angelina pics that I could use.
Heather
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