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Cathi,
I'm copying and pasting what you said about your points:
Let me get my points out of the way first. Monday's were 12 so 12/0/287. Tuesday's were 20 (lots and lots of walking) so ended Tuesday 20/12/187.
How could you end Tuesday with 100 less points than Monday?
Okay, now I just read the rest of your post. I have a question for you - the same one as Mari. Do you have a written goal/committment?
Robin
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Pam,
Actually you reminded me of something. When I've lost weight in the past, for me I was in a "zone". Nothing could move me away from my goal. I woke up in the morning and asked God for help with my food and making good decisions, etc. And the same thing at night.
Today I went to a networking breakfast and there was this guy talking about business planning, and as I was listening to his steps, I realized that though he was talking about business strategies the point was that you can't do anything unless you have a goal and write out a "business Plan". This is something that I've mentioned before -I haven't written anything out, no goals, nothing.
Mari, have you? I really think this is part of why I'm having a problem really sticking with it. You know, the last time I lost twenty pounds, I never worked out!
You know how things happen at exactly the right time? Well, as I was writing this, my furbaby Simba knocked over some papers on my desk. I picked everything up, but when I went to the bathroom just now, I found one paper peeking out from under my bed. It was a note from an old friend that I was doing south beach online with. I'm going to share it here:
"Robin, could you write out a committment to yourself? I have watched you now for close to three years and you do seem to reward your weight losses by splurging (tough love here) . . . two steps forward and one back. In your written committment, promise yourself non-food rewards. It's harder for you than some of us because your social life lends itself to events around food. I think you'll have to have more resolve than if you were staying at home all the time.
Many of us envy all the neat things you do, but at the same time, those things make it easier to slip. If you're dining out with a friend, or having coffee, etc, it's pretty easy to split a dessert or have the extra appetizer or roll.
Recommit! You owe it to YOU to be the slim, beautiful, healthy woman you are inside".
What do you guys think of that? Hope you don't mind my indulging here . ..
Robin
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LILMSMUFFIN
10/25/06 7:55 P
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Pam and Mari, thanks for the kind words. I will do better. Today I took my water bottle to the kitchen to fill it and actually averted my eyes from the “meanchines” because I often don’t think I want something but then I see it and……
It worked! I got my water – had to look to my right because the darn thing is next to the water cooler. I saw nothing so I craved nothing! I went back to my cube with just my water.
Pam, I’m from the Midwest and I am family oriented but my family is all back there! True, I don’t fit the mold of the wife and mother but it’s just been hard making friends here. I guess back home I was kind of the odd ball but I felt at home because, well, because I was home. I've lived in Chicago, Indianapolis, Dubuque, and Dallas and I made friends, good friends where I worked for volunteered. Maybe it is because I'm older now. I don't know.
It is too bad you feel you have to not be yourself at work. I think you seem like a very likeable person. Funny, kind, thoughtful, interesting, bright, need I go on? I wish I had people like you and the rest of the gang here to work with. What a refreshing change that would be.
Time for my swiss ball crunches while I watch TV!
Cathi
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LILMSMUFFIN
10/25/06 7:32 P
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Mari, I could just hug you! You took what we said and improved it - made it work for you. I am so glad you shared because I think that will help me too - spending some time thinking about what it is I would really enjoy. I've been having trouble sleeping so haven't gotten my morning exercise in for about a week. It is hard to get back to something that wasn't yet a habit.
I'll bet if you ask, your husband would be happy to watch CNN in the bedroom and give you the living room for your fun.
I just bought a swiss ball but haven't used it yet much. I'm going to try using to do crunches while I watch a TV program tonight.
Thanks for the great ideas!
Cathi
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Cathi, Mari is so right. Don't beat yourself up over the eating. I am right there with you on the job aspect. I don't like my job anymore, I am bored and frustrated most of the time and to tell you the truth the M&M's were calling my name too many times. This past weekend I just made up my mind that enough is enough and I want to feel healthy not sluggish. Granted I have the added incentive of keeping my blood sugars down, but once I made that commitment to myself things have been going a little better for me. I have not had and M&M's this week and I hope I continue that way. Getting off the junk food, be it full fat, low fat, or hot fat is hard! Try to find something that you like to do when you are not at work so you have something to look forward to when you are working. That always makes me feel better about myself. It is tough not having friends, I know. I don't have very many mainly because I am not like most of these Midwesterners around here. It is all family oriented and my family consists of my hubby and me and my dad lives in the area. That's it. So I do get lonely and that's why I come here to this site.
Lyn I am so glad you like your water aerobics class. Your instructor sounds a lot like my husbandm, although he is not quite 65 yet, he is the oldest one there teaching aerobics and he is the only man that teaches it. He teaches in the morning and has mostly older women and they all adore him. He is kind of a ham when he is up in front of people. He demonstrates very well but he can make a person laugh when he does some of the moves. But he is good! I hope you continue to enjoy it and stick with it.
Ok Mari I'm preaching again. I don't know what's with me these days. I usually have very little to say to people. Maybe it's because I am not face to face and I can be more myself. I have to put up such a front at work every day and it is very tiring.
Points for today, no swimming today boo hoo, but 2 for posting, 1 for thought, 2 for water, 2 for tracking and if I keep up the good work it will be 2 for nothing after 7:30.Had a good dinner so I shouldn't need anything else tonight.
Pam
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Lyn you are really "fired-up" on the swimming. And to have a great instructor is wonderful. You are going to do GRRRREAT!!!
Cathi - you are doing right by stepping back and evaluating the daily situation.. I too hate my job and thank goodness there are NO vending machines. I would be exactly like you. Everyone around here is so "cheap" they don't bring any food in so thats a plus too -but what I have started doing is eating my bagel/english muffin or oatmeal at home then around 9:30 or so I have a yogurt no fat or some kind a fruit to tied me over until lunch.. Maybe you might think about bringing your snacks from home and when you see yourself leaning towards the snack room - head to your healthy snacks..
It is so funny how we convince ourself that "baked" or low-fat or no trans-fat is soooo good for you.
Its hard trying to be good all the time... So don't you beat yourself up over it..
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ROADTOFREEDOM
10/25/06 3:48 P
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I had a great time at aquacise class again. The instructor is a 65 (or maybe a bit more) year old babe who has been teaching water fitness for over 20 years. She is wonderful!
Lyn
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ROADTOFREEDOM
10/25/06 3:43 P
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Leo Tolstoy
"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself."
Lyn
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Forgot my quote:
The ideals which have lighted my way, and time after time have given me new courage to face life cheerfully, have been Kindness, Beauty, and Truth. The trite subjects of human efforts, possessions, outward success, luxury have always seemed to me contemptible.
Albert Einstein
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Well all you girls have made some really great points and are very very supportive.Thank you. It really helps knowing that what I am thinking and feeling is okay because someone else is too..
Pam don't ever think your preaching its those talks you give that make me want to "just do it".. and y'all are right - little steps are better than nothing. A swift kick in the butt every now and then will never hurt me! :)
This morning I did get up 10 minutes earlier - drank a cup of coffee with David - but I got to thinking last night and asking myself "Why" is it so hard to get up - well it was because I was waking up to "Exercise" and like Pam and Cathi said - finding something you enjoy doing is the key!! So I said "Mari, go ahead and start getting up earlier and get use to getting up at that time and in the meantime think about what it is I really enjoy doing to help myself to a better "ME" and that way it won't be "exercise" which is what I dread doing!
Am I making any sense??
Anyway - I have told you before that the swiss ball is a favorite of mine so waht I need to do now is find a place in the house that I can do it. My livingroom is about the only spot and David likes his morning CNN but maybe I can get him to move to the bedroom?? At least I am thinking differently about this whole "Change" and moving out of that comfort zone I like living in....
Robin - I have never tried brie cheese it simular to bleu cheese? I'm not fond of bleu cheese so I think they are and won;t try it..
My mom's neighbor past away Monday - not really sure what from because I am hearing different stories but what I do know is that she had an infection in her knee that turned into a staff infection that later went to her lungs.. Thats so sad..
Ok - work is calling. Talk later..
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LILMSMUFFIN
10/25/06 12:13 P
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Greetings!
Let me get my points out of the way first. Monday's were 12 so 12/0/287. Tuesday's were 20 (lots and lots of walking) so ended Tuesday 20/12/287.
I'm in the same place as many of you right now. I say I want to lose the weight but I'm the only one keeping it from happening. My biggest problem is the eating (duh). I am a carb junkie. I have a long-standing habit of eating a good breakfast then coming to work and making a big cup of tea and eating cookies. Elfin cookies (like animal crackers), snackwell vanilla sanwishes, Lorna Donne's, something like that every day. I'm talking 400-500 calories easy. Today I had a good breakfast then got to work and had a muffin and a package of snackwells. I think they are about 700 together. Now does that sound like a woman who wants to lose weight? Last night in Target I found myself having to talk myself out of baked Cheetos (so much less fat than regular don't cha know). At the checkout I found myself scanning the candy counter for Twizzlers - sugar, dye, fat - what a great good, right? Do I need therapy?
My excuse is I don't like my job, don't have any friends here, and my job is borning. When I get to work in the morning I feel I deserve a treat for showing up. My tea and cookies (or muffin or bagel or....) is the one thing I look forward to in my work day. Do I need therapy or what? 
Starting tomorrow, I have to pay an equal amount into my biggest loser jar for any junk food I buy. Perhaps the desire to not go broke with keep me from the vending machine. This is the 2nd week's decree in the challenge I have going with my sister. I still have to drink all that water too.
Cathi
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ROADTOFREEDOM
10/25/06 10:26 A
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Our society does revolve around food. Every celebration or commiseration involves eating!
We are so blessed to have such an abundance of food.
I admit that I eat far too much and for the wrong reasons.
Sometimes our relationships with other people change when we lose weight or gain weight.
As Robin said, there can be a variety of changes. Changes that we fear.
OK I'm off to the pool.
Lyn
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Robin I love your thought for the day. It is so true. Now that I think about it when I was losing weignt before when I went to bed at night I always thanked God for helping me get through the day and before I got out of bed in the morning I always asked for help getting through the day. When I let go of my control and just took it one step at a time I did a lot better. I'm not saying it is easy and it took me a long time to get comfortable doing it. What happened is I stopped doing it and I was soon back in the driver's seat doing what I wanted and that is why I regained some of my weight.
Losing weight is one of the hardest things to do in life. Mainly because our society revolves around food. Have you ever been to a function where there wasn't food involved in some way or another. I can't even go to a meeting at work without them bringing snacks to eat. WHere I work they think food is the answer to everything and will help to keep up the morale. WRONG! They just don't get it and I work with health professionals. Oh good grief no wonder it's so hard to lose weight. And if you don't like what you are doing you will not stick to an exercise program. I wish I could come and visit you and Mari and anyone else having trouble with exercise. I can be so encouraging at times and that is what it takes to get started. Somebody to get you started and to make you feel good about it. OK. I'm doing it again so I will get off the band wagon.
By the way WW is how I lost my weight. I starte dout doing it on line because I don't like those meetings and could never last. Once I got close to goal I joined so I could get lifetime as they don't give that to the people who do it on line. I found counting points to be a lot easier then coundting exchanges or calories. But then again numbers are my life. LOL
Here's my quote for the day: Picture yourself as the kind of person you wish to be, affirm that you are that, then practice being it. Practice being the optimum word here.
This is disgusting but when I was losing weight before and had to face all the junk food at work I use to envision it as spoiled and imagined that worms were crawling all around it. Believe I couldn't touch it after those charming images. i tried never to feel like a martyr when I didn't eat and everyone else was. I'm doing it again so I'm leaving now.
Everbody have a good day.
Pam
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Cathi,
Great quote! Yes, I know about laughing cow - I was on south beach diet for almost 3 yrs, so I ate a lot of it. The cheese thing kind of sneaks in with me. I was fine with just some lf cheddar, and then my mom, who is dieting, told me she treats herself to some blue cheese in her salad at night. So, since I see she's losing, I think I can, too. Then, the other day, I went shopping when hungry and saw a small piece of brie. You can imagine . . .
Lyn, I'm been lax about my points, too. Although I'm only talking about 2 or 3 points a day, anyway.
Here's an exerpt from a mediatation this morning:
The first thing that will contribute to reaching your goal
is that you simply want to reach it badly enough.
You must learn how to desire with sufficient intensity to be successful. . .
Your desire for success must be so strong within you
that it becomes the very breath of your life.
It must be your first thought when you wake up,
and your last thought when you go to bed at night.
You can have anything you want if you go after it with intensity.
Mari, do you think we don't want it bad enough? I think that maybe for me, I attach too many things to it (ie: if I lose the weight, then I'll get a boyfriend) - and so, achieving weight loss becomes a much bigger thing. Oy, too many thoughts for 6am! Have a great day!
Robin
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ROADTOFREEDOM
10/24/06 11:51 P
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Hi everyone,
Cathi...I had forgotten about that cheese. Is it happy cow? Quite good! I'm with you on needing my sleep. I spent so many years very sleep deprived and now that I can get 8 hours regularly, I do so as often as possible.
Pam and Robin...I like cheese but generally only eat it on my weigh in day, if I have it at all. I eat cottage cheese sometimes, mixed with fat free yogurt, or with green onions in it.
Pam...You do so well with your swimming. Good for you!
Mari...It's difficult to fit exercise into a busy day. When things get hectic for me, I'm sorry to say that exercise tends to be the first thing to go. What about starting with a little bit of stretching first thing in the morning? Is there a quiet spot at your house where you could take 10 or 15 minutes and stretch. Sometimes small changes in routine and habit make a big difference when they lead into something else. Is there anything that we could do to help you some way?
Well, I'm feeling better. I think I'm fighting off the cold bug.
My husband's surgery was postponed for another week, we learned today. That's our life...no routine...things up in the air. LOL
I really wonder how badly I want to lose weight right now. As Mari said, I must be comfortable because I know what I need to do and I manage to sabotage myself sometimes.
Robin, we do use food for so many reasons, don't we? When times are stressful and difficult or when a person feels isolated it is so tempting to eat too much. It's not illegal, doesn't leave a hangover, and, at the time it just seems so comforting. But it doesn't take long and it's not comfortable at all! It's a tough cycle.
I've been lax about adding up my points, even though I've been exercising and recording my menu etc. Yesterday I walked for 40 minutes and then did another 30 of stretching and yoga. Today I walked outside for an hour.
Well, good night all.
Lyn
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LILMSMUFFIN
10/24/06 9:34 P
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CWDORSM,
Glad you like the tulips. I wanted a flower so googled flowers or tulips (can’t remember) and found this. It just seemed right – for now. Do you have a recipe for the brown rice and spinach? I have both but don’t see putting them together. Any suggestions welcome!
Robin, have you ever tried laughing cow cheese? I comes in round containers and there are eight wedges in each. It’s a soft swiss and comes in several flavors and is only 35 calories a wedge. I like it with wasa (can you say lots of fiber!) crackers, or spread inside celery.
Lyn, ouch! It is 9:05 pm and you are making me think. You ask some good questions. I find I do a lot of things well (water, exercise, sleep, etc.) but royally screw up something else (calories, fat, snacking) so that the results of a lot of work aren’t what I was aiming for. Am I resisting? Why? What? I say I want to change, improve; but I don’t do what’s necessary. So, do I really want to change?
Mari, I really do know what you mean. We are so busy and exercise is one of the first things to go. I used to work out after work but it was not fun. So I tried mornings. That was hard at first but all I can tell you is that what worked for me was getting up just 10 min earlier and walking just a little. Bit by bit I increased it until I was getting up half an hour earlier. I’d like to get to an hour but I haven’t been getting to bed earlier enough and the one thing I do make sure of – finally – is to get my 8 hours of sleep. So stop beating up on yourself and just do a few minutes and add on a few minutes gradually until it becomes a habit. I hope you try it.
My job is a mile from my home – not bad. Crossing a 12-lane highway is bad, especially since they refuse to put in a walk light at that intersection. The closest grocery is about a mile and a half – one in each direction. We live in Virginia Beach so the weather here doesn’t get that bad. I’m from IL and used to walk to classes and work in snow, and rain, and ice. So this isn’t that bad.
I’ve had success with WW but going to the meetings was a problem. We had a great leader and she made the difference. Traveling, I went to some meetings and saw other leaders and they make such a difference in how people interact and learn from each other. It works but only if you do the work.
Almost time for bed. I'll do my points tomorrow but will leave you with this thought, "Life expectancy would grow by leaps and bounds if green vegetables smelled as good as bacon." ~Doug Larson
G'night!
Cathi
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Mari,
You didn't confuse me, I'm just confused. :-)
Okay, I have you down for 34 the first week, 43 the second,
and then 43 and 43 the 3rd and this week? Is that right?
Anyway, I don't think it's lazy. Wait, let me start over. I know exactly what you mean. I'm here and yet I'm not. I know if I do certain things differently I'd lose, but I don't care to change. Yes, maybe it's a little lazy but there's a real lack of commititment for me. I will do what I can do easily, but it's too hard to finish eating by 7:30, so I won't even try. It's not good. I'm not sure it can really be summed up as lazy though - or maybe I'm just being defensive. Any help or advice for me, too?
Robin
ps - yes, bf is back to Florida
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Lyn,
Great questions. Sometimes I feel like I eat bc it makes up for my being alone. If I can't have a man, at least I can eat.
Robin
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Pam,
Right now I have:
full fat gorgonzola
low fat sharp cheddar - both a hunk and grated
grated locatelli romano
lf american
full fat brie
I usually don't keep the brie, and only started getting into this gorgonzola
routine a month or so ago.
I went to physical therapy tonight and I'm feeling a little bit better.
R
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Hi Mari, what you said about slowly and gradually incorporating exercise into you daily life is exactly what you need to do. Just do something. Move a little, then a little more and so on. Trust me once you start moving you will feel better and then you will want to do the exercise. But first you must find something you enjoy doing. I mean really enjoy. You know like how I like the water. Trust me I was never a morning person most of my life but now I am up at 4am to go swimming and I wouldn't miss it. It puts me in a much better frame of mind for work and I not as owly. I know it is hard to get started. That is the hardest part and I can't do that for you. I wish I could. All I can do is try to encourage you to move a little at a time. There now I've had my say on the subject.
I had a frustrating day. I am trying to clean up my ledgers and get all the old accounts off the books. I felt like I was spining my wheels and got absolutely nowhere. I hate this part. Not really. I like digging and finding the solution. I just don't like it when I can't find the answer. And reading all those computer printouts all day. The print is so small my eyes felt like they were going to fall out of my head.
Points for today 2 for posting, 2 for tracking, 1 for thought, 2 for water, 6 for exercise and hopefully 2 for nothing after 7:30. Time will tell on that one but I don't usually eat after dinner. Except maybe on weekends.
Hope everyone is doing good.
Pam
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Told ya I'd be back!!
Robin - I too love cheese. I have so many different types of cheese in my frig. I'd probably "jones" if I could not have it. Use to you could find low-fat pretty easy but now I hardly see it at all. I think once you have been on the atkins diet you get hooked on cheese. - As for your question I would try eliminating it for a few weeks just to see if it makes a difference.
Did you BF go back to FL?
CWDORSM - what is your name? I don't think I have seen it on here..
Cathi - glad the back is better. So now that your sister is gone and your going to have to walk and winter is approaching..... BRRRRRRR!! Is your job and markets very close to your house?
Pam, you are right about men making terrible bosses. I only Had one good one and he happened to be my brother... And it had nothing to do with "fringe" benefits. He is just a a great guy. All my GF's think he is "all" that because he is so considerate of peoples feelings. Especially women..
And ATTITUDE is Important in losing weight.. I just need to adjust mine...
Kathy- since you eat alot of chicken and turkey what are some fo the ways you fix turkey. Other than the basic - "thanksgiving" style??
Sara- you mentioned Curves. I too looked into it and went 2 X to check it out - but really I wasn't too impressed so I did not join. But I think WW would be good to join. I know and see alot of goods results - I wouldn't mind trying it but too much work keeping up with all those points. And I've already confessed its exercise I need.
Sue - you still reading our posts I hope. {{HEY}}}}
Lyn - your quote (especially this part) What fears come to the surface when we are faced with healthy living and weight management?
Really is making me think about the question. Because the fear I have is coming out of my "comfort zone" ...
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quote for today:
Nobody got anywhere in the world by simply being content.
Louis L'Amour (1908 - 1988)
Good mid-morning to you all,
First: Robin.. Sorry to confuse you..
I ended last week as : 7/36/120
Monday 10-23 ended with 9/00/163
Hope thats is clearer...
I got on the scales this morning - weigh in day.. up 2 lbs... thats how it will go now 160 one day 163 the next.. I will stay in that range until it OR I move again... I have come to the conclusion that I must be content with the way I look and weigh because otherwise I would really be trying harder. I have no excuse for this behavior other than just plain lazy!! I am ashamed but obviously not to the point to do a darn thing about it. Coming here keeps me from splurging way more than I do or over indulging in food I love because y'all help me stay focused on the food and water consumption BUT the reality of it all is that UNTIL I exercise I will remain just as I am.. I keep waiting for a miracle or something I suppose and we all know that "ain't" happening..
So - what to do???????? I hate mornings and I'm too tired when I get home at night... Sorry excuses I know but its the truth.. So since I have "owned-up" to my laziness and KNOW what I need to do I must figure out a way to gradually and willingly incorporate exercise into my daily life.. Question is how BAD do I really want this?? My answer is: PRETTY BAD!!!.. So here I sit pondering WHAT CAN I DO?? Any help or advise would greatly be appreciated..
My quote for the day really applies to "ME" I need to get past content!!
Now moving off the "pity" pot I will go for now and respond to your posts and comments in a few minutes..
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ROADTOFREEDOM
10/24/06 11:02 A
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C. G. Jung
"We cannot change anything until we accept it. Condemnation does not liberate, it oppresses."
Acceptance...How does this concept enter into the subject of healthy living and attaining and maintaining a healthy weight?
Do we resist the weight? Do we resist being told what we "should" eat and what we "should" do? Do we resist losing weight and the changes that it represents to us? What fears come to the surface when we are faced with healthy living and weight management?
Time for some coffee...
Lyn
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Good Morning,
Robin what kind of cheese do you have in your refrigerator? Is it full fat or low fat? If you are eating a lot of full fat cheese I would suggest cutting back but you don't have to stop it at all, unless you have a hard time avoiding it. That would be my suggestion. I'm glad you got some execise in with the weights. I here you about the arthritis. That is why I swim. It is easy on the joints and the old bones. I do my strength training in the water also. The only exercise I do on land is riding my bike and hiking.
You will never know what great things you can do until you try--really try - Peale
Pam
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