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8/24/10 6:32 P

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Any artificial sweeteners. It's wicked stuff. It triggers all my worst fibromyalgia symptoms--NO THANKS! I get sick with 'fake' butter too!

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8/22/10 11:55 P

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Interesting discussion. Wide variety of strong opinions~! emoticon

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I use only Stevia cause it is from a plant and not a tube.

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8/22/10 8:09 P

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I have known people who had memory problems drinking diet soda with aspartame (one lady thought she had alzheimers). When they went back to regular soda they were fine. It doesn't happen with everyone, but does some.

My problem with things like the diet sodas is that they always put in too much artificial sweetener (and probably do the same thing with Stevia) and it gives the soda an aftertaste that I cannot stand. The same goes for sugar free pudding and stuff. I am more likely to use Stevia in tea or lemon water than anything, but that is my preference. I just prefer to stay away from the artificial sweeteners as much as possible.

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8/22/10 6:03 P

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and if you get chronic kidney disease the first thing on the top of the no-no list is articial sweetners of any kind whooee do you know how much stuff has that in them holy moly
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8/22/10 5:35 P

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As usually understood in research circles, "peer-reviewed" specifically excludes studies funded, directed, etc. by any group with a vested interest in the outcome, e.g., sugar industry as in case of this thread.

Just as I pay NO attention to "research" funded by the American Diabetic Association and its funding sources (Sweppes Cadbury, pharmaceutical companies who derive income stream from diabetes, etc.) I don't give credence to aspartane studies funded by representatives of the sugar industry. I apologize for not being clearer if you concluded that I was referring to that sort of bought-and-paid-for findings.

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8/22/10 2:28 P

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Patio and Tab were sweetened with sodium cyclamate until its ban in the late 60s. (It tasted awful!) The sugar industry funded a study to show that cyclamates caused bladder cancer in rats. The results of that study were never able to be duplicated, and cyclamates have always been available in many other countries. The sugar industry funded another study to show that the substitute artificial sweetener, saccharine, also caused bladder cancer in rats, but after the twisted cyclamate study, saccharine was never withdrawn. It has to carry a warning, though, and is still available as Sweet'n'Low. The domestic sugar industry is well protected from imported sugar, has been for many decades. Sugar used in this country costs far higher than the world price, and the sugar growers will do anything to protect their profit, including high import duties on any product, like jams and jellies, that contain foreign sugar. Any study the sugar growers fund, I have to doubt. I try to limit any artificial anything, which is why I do not eat packaged or prepared foods, but I do drink some diet soft drinks. If anyone feels ill effects from ANY additive, be it artificial sweetener, coloring, or flavor additive, of course you should stay away from it. Just check to see who is paying for the negative info to get out into the consumers.

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8/22/10 2:17 P

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When it comes to aspartame, solid scientific peer-reviewed studies shows that everyone IS NOT different. It is one of the most damaging "fake foods" ever, and I would run like the dickens from any so-called "professional" who gave it a pass.


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8/22/10 2:01 P

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aspartame took 10 yrs to receive FDA approval. the creator fudged the evidence presented (remiving tumors from rats, etc) and when the FDA found out they turned to the attorney general and things were moving forward until the creator of aspartame and the attorney general went into negotiations together and the case stalled and timed out. the attorney general works for the aspartame creator. I drink diet pepsi and have for years!! I have lots of memory stuff too and there r over 200+ symptoms associated with aspartame(which is also marketed under a second name).
I would suggest you steer clear, I am weaning myself. Research aspartame, read skinny bitch in kitch. There is a whole chapter on it and how everyone who stood in the way got a job with the company. I then researched this product and felt sick to my stomach. Its everywhere and should have never been approved for consumption and wouldnt have been without lies and greed.

I would rather drink TAB and live a healthy life that I remember. It definitely taste better but are the side effects worth it?

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8/22/10 1:36 P

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I remember the old Patio Diet Cola and Tab back in the 60s, and if you ever drank those things you'd be very grateful for aspartame. Artificial sweeteners have helped me keep my weight off for all these years, and now for keeping my blood under control.

But everyone is different. Talk to your doc and dietician; theirs is the most important opinion.

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8/22/10 1:13 P

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I have been having memory problems for a while now. When I saw a neurologist, he said NO aspartame!! It is the worst thing I could be taking into my body. I still have it in a few things, but try my hardest to avoid it. The hardest thing to avoid is Crystal Light. I love the raspberry lemonade ....it helps me get my water down...( I have a terrible time drinking plain water...) However, my life is more important so I drink Diet Rite cola and the rest of the time, water...cold, ice water.

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8/22/10 12:56 P

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Aspartame also wrecks havoc with thyroid function, and since many diabetics also have thyroid issues, many knowledgeable medical professionals believe aspartame is something best avoided by diabetics.

If you are relying on soybeans and other legumes and beans for your protein, you also are consuming a good amount of carbohydrate. That is likely the cause of your running dangerously high blood sugars. Blood sugar readings above 140 result in permanent damage occurs to organ systems.

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First of all, if you are doing the Vegetarian thing an are Diabetic and taking Metformin you absolutely need to be taking a B-12 supplement as Metformin sucks the B-12 out of your body and eating a plant based diet does not replenish it. I speaking from 1st hand experience. B-12 deficiency cause all kinds of neurological and memory problems.

Second, Aspartame is bad, evil stuff. While it does not affect everyone the same way and there have been recently studies that it's not really that good for Diabetics to begin with because it can mess with your blood sugar levels and screw your body's natural ability to cope with it, and expedite neuropathy issues. There is a very good, if not scary website to read all about it. http://www.mpwhi.com/



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I was trying to get most of my protein and fat from plant based sources like soybeans and nuts. Trying to eat five times a day - three proportioned meals and two snacks. 8-12 glasses of water which I chose CLEAR AMERICAN Naturally Flavored Sparkling Water Beverage. I was drinking 2 to 3 33oz bottles a day. Could this be what made my blood sugar so high at 216??? Does anyone know about Aspartame?





















































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