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2/20/12 9:27 A

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I finally got around to buying some quinoa. The most protein of any grain, how can you go wrong with that. I will let you know what I think once I cook some.

Rob

I've found without question that the best way to lead others to a more plant-based diet is by example - to lead with your fork, not your mouth. ~Bernie Wilke
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2/13/12 9:48 A

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The new weight lifting routine is going well. Boy am I sore today. I am still looking for a protein supplement that I like and at my next Dr. appointment I am going to ask about testosterone supplements. I just can't put on muscle like I used to.

Rob

I've found without question that the best way to lead others to a more plant-based diet is by example - to lead with your fork, not your mouth. ~Bernie Wilke
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2/7/12 8:54 A

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I am changing up my weight lifting routine again. I know that is what I listed last week, but what the heck. Instead of lifting every week on the same day of the week with one day in between I am going to a rotating schedule with lifting every third day. It will be harder to keep up with but will give my 50 year old muscles more time to heal up between work outs. I am also changing from lifting two or three sets of the same weight to doing 5 sets of every exercise starting light working my way heaver and ending light. It is going to make my work out take longer but hopefully will give me better results and not have me still sore when it is workout time.

Rob

I've found without question that the best way to lead others to a more plant-based diet is by example - to lead with your fork, not your mouth. ~Bernie Wilke
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2/3/12 3:45 P

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I'm in agreement with ARIANERA on this one. Organic producers have a whole gamut of pesticides available to them. True, they can't use synthetic pesticides, herbicides or fertilizers, but calling the pesticides that are listed as acceptible for use in organic argriculture as "natural" misrepresents the issue a bit. Just because something is 'natural' doesn't mean that it doesn't have harmful effects (see ergot, E. coli, etc. - all naturally occuring!). Case in point, Bt toxin, the same substance produced direclty by genetically engineered corn plants, is on the list of permitted organic pesticides as long as it is derived from its natural source (i.e. isolated from bacteria). However, whereas synthetic pesticides are regulated tightly in terms of how much can be applied, there are very few restrictions on how permitted pesticides are used in organic agriculture - theoretically at least, organic corn could have 10x the Bt toxin present as it's conventional counterpart. A recent UK study also compared the nutritional profiles of organic vs. conventional produce and found no appreciable difference between the two.

There are lots of good things about organic agriculture, but it has become such a buzz-phrase lately that people seem to associate it with all kinds of benefits it doesn't actually have. It's important to be realistic about what you're actually getting for the money.

All this (lengthy post) to say, I don't eat exclusively organic or conventional. I just buy whatever looks best for the price, and comes from a country in whose testing and standards I have confidence (i.e. no Chinese apple juice, please).

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2/3/12 9:18 A

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I am not an Organic expert and must admit I don't buy much organic produce. I try to buy as much as I can from local farmers but most are not organic. That being said organic farming is highly regulated and as far as I know they can not use any synthetic fertilizer or pesticides and must rely on biological controls and natural things like vinegar, essential oils, composting, and crop rotation. If they used pesticides and synthetic fertilizer it is just regular modern farming.

Rob

I've found without question that the best way to lead others to a more plant-based diet is by example - to lead with your fork, not your mouth. ~Bernie Wilke
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2/2/12 10:04 P

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"Just because a product is organic doesn't mean that they don't use pesticides and herbicides to control crop loss."

I was unaware of pesticides and herbicides used by organic farmers.....Do you know which ones they do use?

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2/2/12 7:18 P

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As I said - I buy very little organic produce... FROM THE MARKET... I do choose most of my veggies from the local producers at our local farmers market... and some are organic some are not. But this eye opener for me on the Organic broccoli was revealing. (This was in a local supermarket and not the farmers market)

I know there are a lot of pros and cons on organic and a lot of produce we do not NEED to buy organic. I love California and the crops we grow here. AND I love Avacados from Mexico.





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2/2/12 5:35 P

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I have to be devil's advocate.

Fresh and LOCAL tastes better, whether it's organic or not. If you can afford organic, fine - but to my mouth, the broccoli grown for the farm market by the conventional family farms tastes just as good or better than the "organic" produce available at the grocery.

Just because a product is organic doesn't mean that they don't use pesticides and herbicides to control crop loss. While I applaud the philosophy of only using what is needed and minimizing synthetic fertilizer, I'm not convinced that the agents the organic farmers use are really all that much better for you than those used by responsible small farmers.

So find a farm market, join a CSA (whether or not they are "Certified Organic" or practice integrated pest management), but don't break the bank for an "organic" label.

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2/2/12 3:03 P

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Organic is the only way to go. It does taste so much better. And it is good for the local economies. You either pay for it now or pay for it later. AgroBusiness hides alot of our costs to growing our food non-organically, with farming substities....organic farms do not qualify for government substities, therefore it is more expensive, but so much better for you in terms of nutritionally and conservationally.

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2/2/12 1:10 P

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I saw`a suggestion to help decrease cost of organic produce, if you remove the skin don't worrying about buying organic such as banana,orage,pineapple, cucumber (if you remove the skin) I am trying to use this to decrease cost.


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2/2/12 11:05 A

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I have to ADMIT...(not talking about Jicama here)
I don't buy a lot of ORGANIC produce because it is expensive and we have a lot of SUPER produce here in California... BUT.....I was at the market the other day... and was about to buy a bunch of broccoli.... I passed thru the ORGANIC section and a woman there was buying a LOT of broccoli... she pointed out to me how much better it is than 'ordinary' non organic. How the organic is so much greener, so much sweeter and more tender. And that you actually get MORE for the same price.

This morning - for breakfast I had a BIG BOWL of broccoli.. and I am SOLD..........
ORGANIC BROCCOLI for me from now on......... emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon



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2/2/12 10:41 A

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This month I am working on self soothing. I have found that if I take the time to self sooth myself, doing thing like meditation, warm baths, tea time, massages, I do better with my diet. I am staying aware of my anxiety levels and what triggers it to rise. And I love jicama, I used to put it in my son's lunch, cut up as french fries.....he loved it!

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2/2/12 9:42 A

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Jicama - yes it IS good raw. In fact I have never cooked it. I like it 'shaved' in a salad. Just a slightly sweet taste (a lot like water chestnuts in texture). I believe it is a SUMMER fruit/veggie (I don't know which)....and may not yet be available at a reasonable price if you find it at all.

Good luck.



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2/2/12 9:07 A

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Hard to believe it is already February. I have been busy and not really thought about team goals, so let's try to add one post every week with something we did to help reach our fitness goal or one thing we want to do. I'll go first.

This week I changed my weight lifting routine and added more weight to my bench press and triceps exercises.

In my quest to keep trying new foods I am looking to try jicama. I keep hearing how good it is raw but have yet to find any to buy.



Rob

I've found without question that the best way to lead others to a more plant-based diet is by example - to lead with your fork, not your mouth. ~Bernie Wilke
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