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Medication affects everyone differently, and mine might not work for someone else! However, just a caution to be aware of - Effexor had a side effect on me that was surprising. It raised my blood pressure. As soon as I came off it, I was fine again (although I had to convince my doctor it was the drug causing it).


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I used wellbutrin to take care of my depression but I found that after a year and a half it reversed and made my depression more. I found that I had to do something about my liver. i uses silymarin (milk thistle) to help me feel better.
I am still depressed but now I have found something that has changed my world.

google "tapping" it is a powerful thing, it took me a few years to warm up to it. but when I started using it I became more calm and more positive. google tapping and magnus. check it out. Im glad I did.

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Hi SXB,
I'm currently taking Venlafaxine ER (the generic of Effexor XR) and have previously taken the immediate release version as well. I've also taken Wellbutrin (although it made me feel psychotic, so I had to stop taking it after just a few days) and I've taken Zoloft, Celexa and Lexapro. Effexor is the only one that I seem to be having any success with; I noticed an improvement in my anxiety symptoms within a few days. Remember, though, it's different for everyone, so just try to relax and let your doctor & pharmacist know about any changes you experience.

From my personal experience (I'm not a doc, just someone who takes this medicine), Effexor is an excellent product. I can say that the extended release version works much better for me; the "half life" of the immediate release version is just about 5 hours. Still, even that has worked better for me than any previous antidepressant I've taken. I've been diagnosed with major depression, GAD, and OCD. It seems to be helping a lot with my anxiety and depression, and it may be helping some with my OCD as well.

Are you using therapy to combat your anxiety as well? Studies show that the most effective treatment involves a combination of medication and therapy. If you haven't received it before, I highly recommend CBT (Cognitive Behavioral Therapy). It's been one of the most useful tools I've learned in dealing with anxiety.

***Please note that I'm not any sort of health professional, and I'm also human so I don't have all the answers. Anything I say might not be right for you or your situation.

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I went to my family dr yesterday and he also started weaning me off of Wellbutrin and started Effexor. I am kinda nervous about starting it today, although I am having similar situation as the previous poster. I have been on Wellbutrin for God knows how long and it just not working anymore. My anxiety level is through the roof and there is no hope in sight with Wellbutrin. It's not that Wellbutrin is a bad product it's wonderful, but after umpteen years we are just not compatible. Dr stated some of the side effects that freaked me out but after some posts I am feeling a bit more at ease with it. I'll keep you up to date with my journey through the change. Lets just pray for results !

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I am currently on 450mg of wellbutrin xl & my doc is now trying to wean me off that & switching me to 75 mg of Effexor xr. I am hoping I dont gain much weight. I haven't had any weight issues with the wellbutrin, but it just stopped effecting me, so we are giving Effexor a try to see if it perks me up some. Fingers crossed!

Has anyone else made this same change?? any input will help :)

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I am on 75mg and have been for about 7 months now. It seems to be working. If I miss even one day of meds, I notice my anxiety coming back.

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I must admit, it's always good to hear positive things about the medication you (I) personally take. Thanks for sharing with us

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I was on Wellbutrin for awhile to combat depression, and when I started having issues with anxiety, I spoke to my doc about Effexor.

My reasoning was that I'd had pretty good success with meds that dealt w/serotonin and norepinephrine, and good success with meds that dealt w/norepinephrine & dopamine -- the Effexor targets serotonin, norepinephrine and, to a lesser extent, dopamine.

I haven't had any negative side effects with the Effexor - in fact, it's helped the chronic neck/back pain I have (from being top-heavy & sitting all day).

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I'm glad to hear that!
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I still haven't increased my dosage yet... still on only 75mgs... and so far, so good.



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I'm glad to hear your sleep patterns are getting better! I hope that continues as you increase your dose. If not, you may need to discuss that with your doc.
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I haven't taken the higher dose yet... but my sleep patterns are getting better. I guess my body (and mind) had to get used to the 'newness' of the medication in my system?!

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I'm sorry you are having insomnia too. I take my Effexor in the morning, and never have a problem getting to sleep, but staying asleep can be a big problem for me!
I hope the new dose works well for you.
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Well, my GP has advised I up my daily dosage to 150mgs of Effexor.... so I might see how I feel in a week, and then try a higher dose.

She also commented that my insomnia and lack of being able to reach orgasm is part of the side effects, and basically I just have to put up with both. Hmm!!

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I'm glad you're happy with your GP. If your depression does not seem to be getting managed very well after a period of time, you could just ask for a consult with a psychiatrist for a med review, but of course, that's up to you.
I'm glad you're seeing a psychologist too.
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I already see a psychologist... and my GP has told me she doesn't think I should see a psychiatrist as well. My GP has been helping me deal with my depression for the past 8 years, so I'm happy to keep going to her :)

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I'm glad you're going to be seeing your doc soon, but it would really be wiser for you to be seeing a pyschiatrist to prescribe anti-depressants. Family docs just don't know that much about all of them and all the side effects.
Keep us posted!
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One thing I am noticing about taking Effexor.... I am losing weight. It seems I am in better control of my appetite now.. so that is a plus!

My sleep is still a little erratic... and I haven't been feeling overly sexual... so still not sure about that part of it!

I did have an 'episode' the other day though... really bad and couldn't stop crying. I do still get a little anxious... so am wondering if maybe I need an increased dose of Effexor?? (I'm taking 75mgs at the moment). Am seeing my GP on Monday, so will chat with her then about all of this.



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You're very welcome, and your plan sounds like a wise one!
Best wishes to you.
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I'm on a fairly low dosage now (75mg).
I thought I'd see how things went for a few weeks and then check with my doctor again.

Thanks for replying!

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The sexual problems are unfortunately quite common with Effexor. Please let your doc know about it and maybe you could be on a lower dose of Effexor, and take an additional anti-depressant which doesn't have that as a major side effect. I believe Wellbutrin is one.
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Oh and a big plus with being on Effexor... I haven't had a crying 'episode' for nearly 3 weeks now!

But another negative... and I hope people don't mind me saying this... but I haven't been feeling sexual at all (hoping my partner doesn't take it personally... he's been so supportive)... and if I do feel that way inclined, I can't seem to orgasm for some reason.


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I am finding that I am still not sleeping terribly well... averaging around 5-6 hours if I am lucky... and that's broken sleep. I can go to sleep fine... but it's when I wake anytime from 1am-3am... and then I find I just can't go back to sleep properly. I probably doze from around 4am-6am... and then have to get up for work at 7am anyway.

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i think I have been on every anti depressant possible over 12 years - with no real advantages. i just got taken off cybalta and have started on effexor. started at low dose 37.5 for 4 days now on 75 for a week, it did stop my tears, except I had a bad day today (but there were triggers). I take xanax for my panic attacks 2mg up to 3-4 times a day when I'm bad. But usually just 4mg in the morning, mayby 2mg mid day and 4mg at night to sleep. I wake up jumpstart in the morning with a panic attack every morning. I believe that is because during the sleep time it leaves your system and you wake up worrying if your going to have a panic/anxiety attack (the viscous circle). In a nutshell so far no bad effects with effexor and I was told by my doc it is not a weight gainer. II hope I helped a bit. (it has stopped suicidal thoughts already)

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If the DEA took me and other patients off medications my psychiatrist had prescribed for, I would organize a sit-in in the local DEA office (after notifying all of the local televisions stations).

When we started to rage, cry, curl up in little balls, run or otherwise show symptoms that were synonymous with withdrawal and the particular disease we each were fighting, I would have asked a renowned psychiatrist to comment on how many of the DEA agents or hierarchy were, in fact, licensed psychiatrists.

Then I would file a suit against the DEA and each individual agent for practicing medicine without a license.

By that time, it would be a pretty good chance we would have attracted a lot of negative national attention for the DEA.

Of course, I will have expected that the IRS to have gone back at least 40 years to audit my tax returns (hey, I'm just sayin').

Jeez, HO might even have me declared a domestic terrorist for practicing my civil rights according to the Constitution.

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I took Effexor a few years ago.. and I thought it did help me mostly. I was only on 75 so not a huge amount.

I took myself off at the beginning of January last year... a bit silly really as I went downhill emotionally.... mind you, I was also going through a lot of stuff... including miscarrying a baby in June.

Now I have decided to go back on anti-depresants and my doctor has recommended Effexor again. I began last week on 37.5 and now on 75. Other than a few side effects like a little anxious, a bit of nausea, headaches, dry mouth and not sleeping superbly well... things are ok. I've also managed to lose 2 kgs of weight for some reason!

My sleep is up and down (always has been)... and so long as I keep sipping water, my mouth's not too dry and I don't feel as nauseous. I also think it's helping my emotional state.

It's an odd feeling I guess... as I am used to being upset and crying... and now that I am a little calmer and (hopefully) more in control of my emotions and thoughts, I will stick with taking Effexor for now.

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sorry i'm a little late to the discussion, but i just joined sp, and when i saw this thread, i thought i ought to pipe up....
i took both at different times. it was long enough ago that i don't remember my dosage, but in any case, i was suffering with depression and anxiety. the wellbutrin(cr) handled both pretty well, but i always had too much energy. not the nervous kind, but just kinda shaky and i had no attention span. effexor turned me into a total zombie and i hated every minute of it. i didn't, however, have any bad side effects while i was coming off it as were previously suggested.
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Hey Popeye - Being a sufferer of a chronic pain disorder through my research it is being found out that people who need the drugs that are addictive take them as per prescription is written and do NOT become addicted.
Alot of docs do not believe this yet and the DEA is the reason as they are scaring the bejeebers out of any doc that prescribes those drugs. A friend of mine from Virginia had found a dr that was really helping her and had her on methadone well in stepped the dea shut this dr down and all his patients had to go off any narcotic they were on cold turkey and find another dr. The dea didnt care that these people needed the drugs they were on and that they were actually helping and had not become addicts. That is a new problem that the medical field is dealing with The all powerful DEA and until they get put under control things will not get better especially for those of us that need those drugs just tohave a better life.
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I was never on Effexor.

There are different Wellbutrins...There is WEllbutrin XL and WElbutrin CR. I am not familiar with the second one, I was on XL until I moved and then my doctor took me off of it and has kept me off. I wish you well in your research on the drugs. Keep us posted.

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I was just taken off Effexor and put on Welbutrin due to rapid weight gain 12lbs in one month with no other chnages in meds or eating or activity. As has been said we all react different to different drugs and the best thing for each of us is to discuss the pros and cons of each med with our medical/pharamceutical teams. After a year and a half I am still working on getting my cocktail right for me.
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Like I was saying that was my experience - I had to come off of it cause I was getting worse. Not that anything has worked yet though *Sigh*

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I had symptoms of depression for about 10 years, but I masked it so well that the only thing I really needed was to have something help me sleep.

Then I had one of those "big" things in life, the death of my mother. For a year, I didn't seem to have any real feelings about it, but when some things came up at work and the anniversary of my Mom's passing, I went totally over the cliff. I checked in to, and stayed, at our local Cuckoo's Nest Resort and Health Spa for six weeks.

I was so down that my p-doc would put me on stronger and stronger drugs, max the dosage out and change cold turkey to another, stronger drug.

Nothing worked. He told me about the "atomic bomb" of psychotropic meds, Effexor, and that it had shown some addictive qualities.

I didn't care. I wanted to quit running to my room to hide and quit breaking out in tears for no reason.

I started at the base dose of 37.5, and four days later went to 75mg. Four days after that I went to 150mg for a week, then straight to 375mg.

Ahh, I quit plunging into that deep, dark pit, but couldn't seem to get a strong upward direction going. He added 200mg of Lamictal, then 1mg of Klonopin to lower my anxiety at B, L and dinner - and 2 mg at bedtime.

The last drug he put me on was Trazadone, 100-300mg at bedtime.

I've been on that cocktail for over four years, and it has kept me mostly at sea level.

I have currently dropped the T-zone to 100mg at bedtime and the Klonopin to 0.5mg at B, L, and D and 1mg at bedtime.

As for possibly being addicted - I don't care! I want to live as long as possible and see my grand kids grow.

Like Leslie, I know that it saved my life. It just depends on your body and how the chemical affects you. If you decide to go on it, my recommendation is the same as the manufacturers. Start at 37.5mg and go as slowly up as you can.

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12/2/08 7:21 P

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I know everyone's experience is different. I'm currently on Effexor (150) and I actually lost a bit of weight when I initially started taking it. I have found that my dreams are more vivid and memorable, but they aren't the nightmares I used to experience.

I recommend journaling everything when you start a new medicine just so you can get a sense of what's changing before it's out of control.

Best wishes to you!

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12/2/08 5:32 P

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Jess, I'm sorry you had a hard time coming off Effexor, but a lot of us do not plan to come off it. It has saved my life. I can't think of a reason anyone would 'have to' come off it, unless they are actually allergic to it.
And, 300 mg. is not the max. dose; 375 mg. is, and I was on that for a few years, but had no trouble cutting back down to my current dose of 187.5 mg.
Effexor is often given to combat suicidal ideation, and suicidal plans, with excellent effect.
I think each person needs to decide, with the help of their doc, what meds to take.
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I could not take Effexor, i was on it for a week and it make me throw up so couldn't take it. My doc has me on WellbutrinXL 450mgs a day for Depression and i take Xanax 1mg for Anixiety. I like the Wellburtrin because it doesn't make me tired, it won't let me sleep that is why i take the Anixiety med at 8 PM. so i can sleep it helps shut my brain up so i can sleep. so i don't take afternoon napsI hope this makes sense. Pat

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12/2/08 5:16 P

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Personally - from my own experiences and what I have read and heard - DON'T TAKE EFFEXOR. It is an evil wicked drug. It's harder to get off of than herion, and the side effects are just insane. I was on 300 mg a day (the max dose) for over a year, and I had withdrawl effects for over 6 months.

I do know people that are on it currently and are doing ok, but I fear the day they have to go off of it.

These are of course my own opinions and beliefs, but I suggest you do alot of research on this before agreeing to take it. The fact that you are troubled with suicdal ideations and the idea of this medicine just doesn't sit well with me.

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12/2/08 4:48 P

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I have taken Effexor for years, and was first put on it because I was planning my suicide. I have not planned on suicide in all the years I have been on Effexor. It has not caused me to gain weight.
My doc would not put me on Wellbutrin because I already have big anxiety issues.
I hope this is helpful for you.
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I have heard that Wellbutrin may help you lose weight unlike some of the other anti-depressants that tend to make you gain weight. I am going to ask my neurologist if there is a way I can try the Wellbutrin because my weight keeps going up even though I watch what I eat and take 45 minute walks.

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Hellloooo,

My doc suggested that Effexor may be a good idea, since I'm not handling my depression too well. I'm worried about some of the possible side effects.

I'm troubled with suicidal ideations, and I've read that Effexor can worsen that. I certainly don't want to go from thinking about suicide to attempting or completing it!

Wellbutrin seems to be a very good drug, however my doctor told me that it can make anxiety worse. I'm troubled with both depression and anxiety. It seems to also have some dependency issues.

Obviously, for both, I'm worried about weight gain.

Has anyone taken either one of them, and if so, can you tell me about your experiences?

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