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Hi - We are glad to see you here :-) Feel free to join in the other threads, too!

You sure have a lot to deal with. I suspect that you have left off another probable diagnosis - GRIEF! Grieving for the mother that was, and who she is now - grieving the loss of hearing - grieving for you life as it once was!

I hope that you have someone to talk with in your "real" life - that is very important. Do have have Hospice involved in the care of your Mother? They provide some good therapy for the families of the terminally ill, too, and that is vitally important. I also hope that you get some time out for YOU - to spend in YOUR way for relaxation and YOUR enjoyment.

I am really pleased to hear that you are remembering your achievements - that is half the battle. Please know that we are here for you and will support you in any way that we can, but for that to happen you also need to be active on the boards - as much as you are able without wearing yourself too thin. You may find that the "Help, I've had a bad day" and "Daily Check-in" which are both sticky's on the Dealing with Depression Team Page will be helpful for you for ongoing relief of tension/stressors etc. It is a very safe environment and you can vent as much as you wish.

You may find that if you create a SparkPage you will get even more benefit from this site - other members will be able to drop by and leave encouraging messages, and even the occasional goodie :-)

If you have any questions just ask - there is usually someone around so a response shouldn't be too far away.

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Okay - first post I believe here.

I have dealt off and on with varying different diagnosis of depression. I had been on medication 3 different times, but we found that I am allergic to something in them and could no longer take them.

As for what I deal with, I have fibromyalgia, neuropathy, generalized anxiety disorder, situational anxiety disorder, and massive stress dealing with being primary caretaker for my mother with a terminal illness and dementia and also my with adjusting for the last 6 years of going total deaf.

I am on a medication for the fibromyalgia, but am finding that it no longer helps. Due to the fibro, exercise it hard for me, but I work my way through it. I have had to find all kinds of activities to help relieve stress and such. It used to be the piano, but I had to sell it. Due to current living situation, I don't have access to my other stress relievers, but will get them back in time for the new year.

I am finding day to day life very hard right now and have some very low days where I just want to give up, but then I remember what I have accomplished and that seems to keep me going.

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Hi - Congrat's on your first post :-)

I have chronic pain, too - Arthritis in both hips and spine, and scoliosis of the spine. I often rely on cocktails of pain relief including, on occasion, morphine. This last week it has been pretty bad again, but it could be because of the cold (winter here.) Anyway, There are things that you CAN do physically to help yourself. Chair Exercises are great, and so too is pool walking. I would be inclined to ask your Dr for a referral to a Physiotherapist so that you can accurately be assessed and given the appropriate exercises to help. I would suggest that you DON'T go buying DVD's or exercise books and working from them, because unless you can be checked on how you are doing them, you won't know if you are doing harm or good. Even just an inch can make a difference between doing good and causing harm.

I have lost quite a bit of weight, but not from lots of exercise - in fact I do a lot less than is normally recommended. Your very gentle Yoga would be on a par with my gentle Pilates. You need to be even more vigilant in your food intake tho'! I weigh all of my food for increased accuracy and enter it into the Nutrition Tracker. This has allowed me to stay focused and also to tweak my intake as and when necessary. My weight-loss journey was slow but this is the healthy way to do it. It took 16 months to lose the first (just over) 50lb, and I happily sat there for a year before deciding to move on down again. I had been overweight for about 30 years.

It MIGHT be that you would benefit from the input of a Dietitian, too! Mine figured the reason WHY I was gaining weight even tho' my calorie range was in a range that people normally lose weight on. By taking a few random printouts from the SP Daily Nutrition Report she spotted the problem well within 5 minutes.

Good luck with your Journey - keep in touch and let us know how you are getting on.

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I am a sunshiny type when I`m around others, but alone, I feel like a different person, very hard on myself.

I have horrible pain in my right hip, on a lot of meds but even so, it`s between a 6 and 8 on the scale whenever I move or walk...lying down is even worse. So I am trying to keep a job while my limping gets worse, I can`t afford to quit as I am only 61, and I have nothing in the bank. I am trying to lose the weight that has crept up over the years, but other than very gentle yoga, I can`t exercise, which in itself is depressing for someone who used to walk or bike all over the place until my mid-40`s when this arthritic pain started.

I really feel so alone in all this, so would not mind hearing from someone else in chronic pain who has some ideas, or someone who has experienced it and found a way out. I am very much into herbal remedies, and ironically, I spend my time helping others with alternative approaches at my work. I guess I should say, I have beautiful skin and look 15 years younger than my age, just am too full-figured and gimpy. So any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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BMW - with Diabetes/Blood Pressure problems you are really playing with fire by not being medicated. Go to my post further down and click on the links - there are 5 there, and they should be able to help you access the medication. Talk with your Dr about the situation because he/she may be able to give you samples to help you.

Where it comes to the Cholesterol and Diabetes particularly, by losing weight you WILL find an improvement, so ensure that you are eating a healthy diet (including plenty of fruit/veges), and sticking within the calorie range!

Relying on supplements and/or vitamins won't do the trick for you.

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Exercise is helping me... but I recently have had some really bad/low/down days. I can't get prescription meds because I can't afford to go to the doctor... even the health department charges and will not bill you because the county is basically bankrupt. This is why I don't have any of my diabetes meds, blood pressure meds, or cholesterol/heart meds.
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I've found that exercise works great! The trouble is finding the motivation to exercise when you're depressed.

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Exercise CAN help considerably with Depression - it is to do with the 'feel good' chemicals that are produced. It doesn't help as much with situational depression, tho'!

I'm glad that you have discovered one of the many benefits of exercise and that it is working well for you :-)

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I've been told that exercise helps with depression. I don't know if it's true or not. I'm exercising a lot these days, and I'm not suffering quite as much. But I still have symptoms of depression.

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OUCH - just relying on your body to tell you what you need is rather dangerous. I understand the finance part of things, but have you really sat down with a sharpened pen and piece of paper and worked through EVERYTHING in your budget? it is best to keep a diary of every little bit of money you spend - even if it is only a few cents for some gum. THEN after a month, go through a group them into different categories - power/gas, petrol, insurances, food, cleaners, etc. and then scrub out what isn't necessary. A lot of people are really surprised when they do this - they can generally find quite a bit left over from essentials. In some cases, tho' it is SOME left over as opposed to quite a bit.

Next, take a look at the food you eat. IF you eat meat, can you substitute some of it for lentils or beans - much cheaper, still has protein, but has fibre which meat doesn't have, AND doesn't have the fat. Some cleaners are very cheap and easy to make - I generally use a mix of methylated spirits/water for bathroom/toilet sanitizers, and I use Emulsifying Ointment mixed with water for hand/body wash - MUCH cheaper than soaps and better for your skin. It makes a lovely moisturizer, too, and I squirt some of my favourite perfume into the mix which I make up to be like liquid soap, and this gives a lovely fragrance which hangs around, and doesn't cost an arm and leg.

Don't rule out medications to the point of cutting off your nose to spite your face. If your brain needs them, then it needs them. Natural methods are often only any good for mild/moderate depression, and the moderate is at the lighter end of the scale than closer to severe.

Here are some links you may find helpful for free/cheap medication and Therapy:
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BTW - sometimes herbal remedies can have a negative effect in the long-term too, and can be just as dangerous as any prescribed medication. When you have other conditions it can exacerbate it. As an example, a lot of people take garlic supplements. There is nothing sinister in that! Garlic is good for you, you can buy it in the grocers and eat it no hassle. BUT if you go to have surgery, or are on blood thinners, or have a 'bleeding' disorder, then this simple basic ingredient can (and has been known to) be fatal!

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I have been told that I have PMDD. I tracked my symptoms for over a year and showed up at the doctors for a check up, which lead to a physical, where they found a pollop that they claim is responsible for extended TOM, and reviewed my symptoms and told me to be on this kind of new birth control to that my insurance doesn't cover and cost $80 dollars a refill. The other that they switched me to made me gain 10 pounds which I still haven't been able to get off, headaches, and nausea. I am sorry but dealing with that crap for a month was enough for me. She told me if we could get my symptoms under control with a birth control that we would need to treat with Stofen as well - which is the new Prozac.

Firstly I don't take med even when I have a head ache. After years of being on birth control - thanks mom, a 14 year old really needed that - I didn't know what normal was suppose to be. After two rough pregnancies I got a tubal done so that way I wouldn't need to take pills the rest of my life. being prescribed them to solve this was disheartening to say the least.

Currently. I take nothing for it. I try to remind myself of the weekly cycles of "crazy" that I go through is just a hormone thing and not to take it out on anyone. I try to journal, but really that doesn't always word, and I am trying to have a healthier lifestyle so maybe I can re-balance my body out. I am not sure what I should take as far as natural herbs and remedies. I have heard that a vitamin therapy can work well, but really need more information as to what and how much.

My OBG is not into herbal remedies, I cannot go to any other doctor in the area - no one accepts my insurance and pretty soon I will not have insurance at all to complain about so I am pretty much stuck with the - your body knows what it needs, you should listen and respond accordingly - approach.

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Obviously you are entitled to exercise your right to freedom of choice.

Here is a copy/paste of the appropriate part of that first link:

"Although liver damage appears to be rare, FDA believes consumers should be informed of this potential risk.

Kava-containing products have been associated with liver-related injuries including hepatitis, cirrhosis, and liver failure -- in over 25 reports of adverse events in other countries. Four patients required liver transplants. In the U.S., FDA has received a report of a previously healthy young female who required liver transplantation, as well as several reports of liver-related injuries."

It says IN OVER 25 reports of adverse events in other countries. My husband has had an adverse reaction to a medication that nearly cost him his life. It was a rear side-effect of the meds, and his condition was an extremely rare side effect of that condition, as in he developed pancreatitis which is a rare side effect of the meds he was on (one in a thousand), BUT the severity was rare for that condition. The Dr's filled in a special form to be forwarded to the powers that be outside of the hospital notifying them of an adverse reaction. A lot of people have the reaction but it isn't reported as such.

The second link has sub-headings:

"Concerns About Kava and the Liver:

Potential Side Effects of Kava:

Possible Drug Interactions:" ..... which should be read in it's entirety.

Excerpts from that say:
"Adverse liver reactions appear to be linked to factors such as pre-existing liver disease..." A lot of people have liver disease and aren't aware of it. Excess weight can contribute toward this and as an ultrasound is one of the best ways of diagnosing it the person isn't aware."
"alcohol consumption," A lot of people do drink - perhaps not to excess, BUT.....!
"consumption of other drugs or herbs that, combined, may have a toxic effect," A lot of people are on medications for other conditions.

I understand YOU have no co-ocurring medical conditions, but a lot of people here will read your original post and decide to try without knowing the in's and out's of it.

Good luck, - I DO KNOW that it helps anxiety etc. to a degree!

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There have only been 25 reports worldwide of liver damage, according to the first link, and clinical studies find co-occurring alcoholism and liver damage in all 25. Also, you would have to drink about a gallon of the stuff (and it's NASTY!) in order to get any sort of intoxication. I appreciate the warning. However, with no co-occurring medical conditions and with my limited use of it, I'm going to continue drinking kava tea. I do appreciate you looking out for me and others, though. :-)

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I would strongly urge you to reconsider this as a method of treatment! I know that it is used at times for anxiety etc., BUT it can cause some very serious damage to our body, AND our mind. People in the Pacific Islands often use this as alcohol to get intoxicated - it can cause dependency like alcohol and drugs, it can interact very seriously with any alcohol and/or medications, and can be potentially fatal - the FDA has strong warnings out regarding it's use.

Below are a couple links which I would like you to read.
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nccam.nih.gov/health/kava

I strongly urge you to rethink this one, even with planned occasional use!!

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I have recently discovered kava. Anyone heard of it? Well you can google it, but basically it's a tree root that is ground into a powder and mixed with water (but I make mine at home with coconut milk). It is an anti-anxiety, anti-depression muscle relaxer that does not affect your mental acuity. One shot of this stuff when im feeling super stressed or down and i'm totally relaxed and calm. That's my new natural med.

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It's great that you have someone you can share with and that you can both help each other through this, but be careful that you don't bite off your nose to spite your face where medications is concerned. You mention "....battling depression since 2009", well if the word "battling" is anything to go by, then it just might be time for you to bite the bullet and talk with your Dr. ALSO, you may have a degree in Psychology, and so may your friend, but unless your friend has done the appropriate "therapy" part of the degree, to the point where supervision isn't required, then it is advisable to rethink each others diagnosis and seek the services of someone who who is qualified to do so, especially if there is a possibility that there are some other diagnosis involved.

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I don't take any meds and haven't been clincally diagnosed. My degree is in Psychology so I know I meet all the criteria per the DSM to be diagnosed with depression and probably a few other diagnosis...LOL! Oh well, the only thing that has helped me tame it is talking to my best friend. We both have degrees in psychology and we both suffer from depression. Talking it out, helps me soooo much! I do feel alot better since I have started walking and eating better. Somedays I do feel like I need to be taking something but I'm not a fan of medications, not of any kind. I have to be in PAIN, I mean PAIN to take anything orally. I've been like that since I was a child. I guess so far so good, I haven't caused harm to myself or anyone else without any and I've been battling depression since 2009.

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Thank you for that input, and yes, you are quite right. I have used Acupuncture extensively for Benign Essential Tremors which a Specialist told me I would have to learn to live with because I couldn't take the medications because of asthma - the combination could be fatal. Anyway, as a last resort I went to a Dr who practices using mainly Acupuncture. I went for about 3 years for regular treatment, but now have very little to no tremor. The beauty of Acupuncture is that it doesn't interfere with any medication and they can provide treatment for a lot of other conditions at the same time. The Dr I went to would pop a needle in for Asthma (the gunkiness in the throat), stress and emotional issues when I have been to him while in a very distressed state, severe headaches, nausea, and skeletal pain from arthritis and scoliosis, etc. - all with very good results :-)

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Hi all - I am brand new here, but not to depression or weight issues. I have been on every medication in the book and struggled with side effects, but have also seen the benefits of meds when the right combo is found. Sometimes the issue can be removing a drug that is treating a different medical issue in your life, but causing psychiatric symptoms. This is worth researching with your physician. I was on a migraine med that made me suicidal and removing it had profound effects. My husband is a surgeon and believes strongly in the power of western medicine (anatomy, physiology, medication, surgery, etc.) but we have discovered together that the mind is a tricky thing. I have found tremendous relief by seeing an Integrative Medicine physician, who is both a Board certified psychiatrist, able to prescribe meds and modern treatments, but also to administer Eastern treatments, such as acupuncture and Traditional Chinese Medicine. He has been a godsend for me. I have had major breakthroughs in PTSD and depression, improving my migraines and functionality as well. I strongly recommend considering this as an option if you have not gone down this path before. It is a medical doctor who can prescribe medications, herbs, and vitamins, as well as give alternative treatments. I added a link to the place I go for anyone in my area. Good luck to you all... :) taoinstitute.com/

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When a Psychiatrist prescribes a medication, it is always a case of trial and error. Because everyone responds differently to different meds, he/she cannot know how it will affect us. This is one of the reasons it sometimes takes a while to get the right medication and/or balance of meds. Often side-effects will only be for a week or two while the body gets used to the medication, and then they reduce or disappear. It is also why it is important to keep in touch with the prescriber until you are properly stable on the right meds.

You mention taking supplements - I hope that you checked it out with the Dr AND your pharmacist ensuring that ALL medications and supplements you take were taken into account. Sometimes a supplement can be rather dangerous because of the way it may interact with other supplements or medications. We aren't trained to know if it is a good mix or not - they are trained in this - it is called polypharmacy!

Of course, eating more fruit and veges isn't going to do any harm either :-)

I am glad that you have realized that home-sickness is part of your problem. Hopefully that will reduce over time. Being in regular contact (via phone, texts, computer, or snail mail) is a good way to help overcome this!

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Hi all

My previous psych put me on Lamictal which is a balancer for extreme mood swings in people with Bipolar II. I told him I was still having issues because my life was hectic. He added in Lexapro and I was a mess for 4 days. Dizzy and nausea until I felt like I was going to pass out and heat flashes. I am not willing to sacrifice my health because the psych doesn't know how to help me. Some will continue to put you on things that don't help you at all... they just make you sick.

I take a b-100 complex now to make sure that with the depression and stress I am not lacking in my B vitamins. I have also made sure I eat more fruits and veggies. It's been proven that bananas make you happier and I also feel good when I eat mangoes as well. I will have to try some of the other vitamins I see listed here.

I realized that a majority of my health and depression is due to being extremely homesick. The only thing I can do now is to comfort myself with things that remind me of home until I can afford to move back... hopefully within a year.

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Thank you for sharing that tip. I will try this the next time I really want to snap at someone. instead I will bite into a carrot. It makes sense.

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My doctor put me on Deplin, a prescription vitamin. I've had little success with meds and he said a lot of people who seem resistant to medications lack folate in the brains. The deplin has some sort of folate that penetrates the brain.

I've tried so many pills, I'll give a vitamin a try. I've been on it for a week and I actually do see an increase in energy and decrease in appetite. Yes, weight loss is a side effect, so I'll keep trying it and update if anyone wants to know more.

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We take medicines and rely on them to help us deal with our depressions. We can also use our mind and inner feelings to guide us. Never neglect your thoughts and innate feelings, they are important to your healing. Slowly guide yourself to a happier place in your life, and take in all the feelings. I find this therapy helps me, after much practice.

Depression is the impression left by fear. Be willing to fight the fear. Conquer it with love.

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I take a supplement called Magnesium-B by Wassen. I have found that it helps get me energised & makes me more able to cope a better with every day things that would normally turn me into a crumbling mess!

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I'm eighteen. I've tried Celexa, Topamax, Effexor, Wellbutrin, Abilify and I think a few others I can't even remember, not to mention the drugs for my anxiety. I've had some pretty incompetent psychiatrists. I'm not on anything now because there's always a strict binary -- either there's no effect or the side effects are unbearably awful. Is there anything that's really worked for anyone else? Obviously I'm trying to commit to exercise. :P

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Meds work for me, they may have to changed every so often. All our bodies are different, what works for one does not mean it will work for another. I also use NASIDS for pain

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I agree. I've been on meds for awhile, recently changing since my old meds stopped working. I think they do wonders to help put you in the right mindset to get your life back in order and healthy. I also take daily vitamines and Omega-3's which seem to really help out. However, meds alone don't do the trick. You also need therapy. Since I started therapy my mind has become a lot clearer and I believe (with the med change) it has made all the difference.

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I was on cymbalta, which was working, but then I was laid off at work, and couldnt afford it.

So, I went back to Prozac...and added B12 and krill oil...and the latter two made a big difference. I recommended B12 to another friend, and he even mentioned the difference he noticed.

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Hi All -- I have been on Cymbalta and something else in the past. But I'm trying to get the word out about iodine. A year ago last fall, my doctor did a thyroid test and discovered that I'm a little out of whack. I went through my food journals and looked for sources of iodine. Normally we get enough from table salt say most of the nutrition guides ... but in my house we use tamarii, spices, and a minimal amount of salt -- but even that is Kosher! (Not iodized because it changes the size of the grains.)

Furthermore, the salt used in prepared foods like chips, frozen entrees and protein bars isn't iodized either, because that changes the flavor of the food.

Depression is one symptom of low iodine, as is being cold, being hungry, and weight gain. I'm now taking kelp, but since you can get too much iodine, I strongly recommend a thyroid test before deciding it's for you.

And while kelp has lessened some of my symptoms, it hasn't taken away all the depression.

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Hi Everybody,
I think the meds work. I'm happy but I've gained like 30lbs which is the only reason I'm on here. I don't trust going off meds but maybe switching to something else that wont make me gain weight. Right now Im taking lexapro and resperadone. Any ideas? Its also good to have enough potassium in your body and vitamin b and lots of salmon in your diet ke omega 3's when your depressed because they say you feel what you eat. So I'm trying to live healthy and follow my doctors instructions.

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I have PCOS am taking cinnamon plus chromium tablet ypu can currently get at your GNC. I deal with depression but the way I deal with that is more of a spirtually setting.

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I haven't tried any supplements yet. I am taking paroxetine and amitriptylin. I have not tried to come off either yet. I have been on the parox the longest after other meds stopped working. I think I need to get a light box next. These two weeks before Christmas have been killers with the short daylight hours. I was walking twice a day but the weather turned cold and I stopped. So I am not getting my sunlight. I am going to begin walking tomorrow, no matter how cold it is. I need to be out there.

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While I agree that herbals can help, I also know that meds are or can be very important as well. I personally am doing both. Instead of upping my dose of celexa, I added supplements my therapist reccomended. B complex and Omega 3 (also has a few other things in it). These are from a great company that she has used for years and are helping a lot. Not all supplements are the same though, so make sure you are buying from a good company. I am also using oils for relaxation and ailments and added yoga twice a day. I feel so much better! I will probably never stop the meds, as I believe it all is helping, not just one thing. I also don't have major side effects like you all are talking about. Guess I am lucky!

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I have tried several different meds and now take a generic Effexor and the Deplin. I have gone back and forth between taking meds and going off them. I know now that I personally can not go without them. If I stopped because I felt well I would become more depressed in a few months. This time my psychiatrist added a dietary supplement for folate (folic acid). It is called Deplin and has no known side effects. I not only feel less depressed but have my motivation back. It took about three weeks to work. It is not like I am reved up, I am just not as lethargic as before. Good luck it might take a while to get the dose/med that works right for you.

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Hello, I'm new to SparkPeople and I've recently been put on the generic version of Effexor. I'm looking for some feedback from others on similar medications. I'm torn between not wanting to be on medication (or at least limiting the how much) but I have been noticing a substantial change which is kind of refreshing (and I'm sure my fiancee is enjoying the lack of extreme mood swings and anxiety). At this point I don't know what "normal" is supposed to feel like so how do I know when I've reached the proper strength? Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions?

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I've been on Lexapro and Wellbutrin for few years and last year switched to Zoloft. I want to be med free and not be dependent on them. Its a complex matter because when we are on medication the depression is controlled but most of other emotions are subsided as well. I noticed it the most when I went to visit my home country which I always loved visiting and seeing my family. That partical time I was emotionless... and realized that I am missing a lot by being on mood altering medications. So I started searching for alternative methods to control the depression. Running and natural light box therapy is working so far. I tried to quit cold turkey at first without these two things and I had bad vertigo side effects and eventually depression coming back. Adding the light therapy it definitely helps a LOT!

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I agree with you that for some there is a need for medication for depression and I think we should be grateful that we have it available. It seems in reading these posts that there is a definite bias against using antidepressants and anti-anxiety medications. It's good not to use them if they aren't needed, obviously, but if they are needed there is nothing wrong with taking them. Much good advice is given here to help with depression but lets just not black list what could be life saving medication for some people.

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Good for you to stay on the Effexor if it is working well for you. It sounds as if you have the support of your family and that's great.

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I'm trying to get my life as free of sugar as possible, which is no easy task. Controlling that seems to lead toward other good things, like more consistency with exercise, etc.

It is in almost everything we eat. And just because something says no sugar doesn't make it so, if the manufacturer wants to play label games with serving sizes. types of sugar, etc.

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I have used effexor for 11 years, starting after my first son was born. I was so thrilled to be a mom, but suffered from post-partum depression. I find that effexor at 75 m dose helps me keep my balance. When I became pregnant with my second, my doctor and I discussed ceasing effexor. She counseled me that the risks to the mom (me) may be too great since the negatives to baby were unproven. I decided to stay on my meds. My family can definitely tell if I do not take it. This is a Very personal choice. I can tell you that both of my sons are great and healthy. Instead of trying to get off effexor, I have decided to embrace it as a part of my health program and to Exercise religiously to further help myself cope with daily stresses of job, family, travel, caretaking, etc. I wish you all the best as you make your family and hope to find the right solution for yourself.

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@ You_Appearing: I am so going to have to try those sublingual sleeping tablets----I need something that doesn't make me groggy the next day. And you said Valerian Root is good for anxiety? Is there a particular brand that you use?

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Which medications are you taking cause I looked at the web site and nothing said anything about depression I am very interested! Do you know about PCOS? I have that and prediabetes too.

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I am using Spark People to track my B6 and B12 intake. If I don't eat well I am more depressed which leads to worse eating.. I'm unhappy because I eat vicious cycle.
I have a lot going on in my life that is sad. I should feel grief over my dog being at the end of his life.
I saw my therapist yesterday who said it looks like it's time for anti-depressants. I didn't like being on them before and was proud that I had been ok for years without them. I was 200lbs or less always before taking them. Paxil made me 400lbs!
I'd rather suffer through this rough patch then gain back 100 lbs.
Apply those coping skills, go to group, go to CBT, and get through it again. emoticon

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I've tried non-medical alternatives to treat my major depression and GAD before with limited results. However, I am now under the care of a cognitive behavioral therapist who I see twice a month, and a psychiatrist who I see once a month.

Since I am working with them on the behavioral side of things, I have decided to try to supplement this with herbal supplements since I am unable to take antidepressants or mood stabilizers.

Just this week I added St. John's Wort, Omega-3, and a multi-herb supplement called Serenity (the main active ingredients are Kava Kava and Passionflower vine) which was recommended to me by a friend who used it for GAD. I haven't noticed any changes yet, but we'll see how it goes.

I have an appointment with my shrink tomorrow, so I'm going to talk to him about it and see what his thoughts are, and if he has any other recommendations.

While I don't use these for depression, I have had a lot of success with valerian root for anxiety, and melatonin for insomnia. However, the only melatonin supplement that works for me is a sublingual version made by Source Naturals. The pills that you swallow don't seem to work for me at all. I get Source Naturals 5mg sublingual melatonin at Whole Foods. It works WONDERS. It works better than Ambien CR for me, and doesn't make me groggy.

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Last year I lost my health insurance. I was taking the generic form of Wellbutrin, which was too expensive along with my diovan (high BP). I had to quit both meds cold turkey.

I had no side effects. the only side effect I suppose is that my depression is back. I tried taking fish oil and St johns wort, which helped a little.

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I use to be on Zoloft and about 3 years ago I decided to wean myself off of it. I decided I wanted to feel again and try to understand the circumstances in my life that I was trying to not feel. At that point I started seeing a therapist who has helped me understand my personal situations and helped me to become empowered in my life. I still feel the effects of my depression as it will probably never go away completely, but comes in waves. Having my therapist and my wonderful friends as well as eating right and exercising and the learning from SP, helps me get through those down days because I now see hope that I did not see before.

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From my experience so far, Effexor is a pain to come down from. Almost every site I've looked at has people commiserating about the withdrawal symptoms. I just came off of it myself about three weeks ago, and only this week did the symptoms recede. The headache, nausea, stomach cramps, anxiety/depression rollercoaster... after I upped my intake of fish oil, Vitamin C, Vitamin D did things start to feel better.
But coming off of any anti-depressant or psych meds is tough. You never know how your body is going to react without the stimulants all of a sudden.

Sticking with daily exercise, healthy food, and constant communication with doctors and family is really the key. Unfortunately psychiatrists aren't much different than other doctors in that they can't tell you for sure how YOUR body is going to react to things.

Best wishes for getting off of them though! I would recommend finding a doctor you are completely comfortable with and who understands your goals BEFORE you get pregnant. And also don't discount getting back on them after you give birth (of course take breast feeding into consideration) the best thing you can do for your baby is to be healthy and capable!

FYI: I was diagnosed as Bipolar three years ago, currently taking Wellbutrin, Seroquel, Xanax and coming off Remeron. Hoping that one day I can find the less-is-more prescription combination!

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I am currently trying to wean off my medications so I can get pregnant. I am on four different medications so I have to go really slow. I have successfully managed to taper down on my effexor going from 75 milligrams to 37.5. I was doing ok until this week. I started to feel really lousy on Tuesday, especially when I wake up in the morning. I am lethargic and don't feel like doing anything. I've also have bouts of anxiety. I've known and remember the horrors of being depressed, the darkeness and the hopeless feeling of being in a bad dream and not being able to wake up from it.
I've waited along time to seriously try having a baby because I know the side effects of withdrawal and how scary it can be.
Does anybody have some suggestions of how to get through this. I already try going for a walk everyday and eating healthier, especially eating dark green leafy vegetables because of all the good nutrition in them. I'm going to change Doctors because my current one hasn't been helpful, ie., I need a very specific plan to taper down safely without going off the deep end. All he says is, "you have to get off all of them" without a clear plan of doing so.
Any suggestions, please? Just support from spark people will be helpful too.

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While I am currently on a medication, I have weaned off of it before.
The way I did that was through eating healthy, massage, energy work, and "picking my battles" That doesn't only apply to actual battles. For me, it meant decideing what I was and wasn't going to let get to me. I determined what things I could do something about, and let those be in the forefront of my mind. I also figured out what was beyond my control, and learned to let it go. I surrounded myself with supportive people and got more active. And I was able to completely stop taking my meds.
This was several years ago, and just as things were going good for me, my husband talked me into moving away from everyone I knew, and that supported me. For a while, I was ok, but eventually had to get back on meds. Right now, I am on a VERY low dose, and I am back around my family and friends. I am taking steps to make some HUGE changes in my life, and am confident by this time next year, I will no longer need the meds.
Seriously, try adding massage and bodywork if you can. It can be expensive, but if you can find a training school for massage nearby, the prices are usually pretty decent!
And of you are in the Salt Lake Valley in Utah, hit me up....I am a massage therapist and will give you a good deal. It was when I was going to school and getting regular work sone that I was able to wean off.

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In May I went to China on a study tour. One of the places we visited was Tong Ren Tang, an herbal pharmacy in Beijing. We were given the opportunity to have consultations with several of their most respected physicians. One of the issues I told them about was my depression. For all of my issues (including the depression) I was prescribed two herbal medicines. I started taking these at the beginning of June and I am already noticing huge changes with my depression. My husband started noticing changes within the first two weeks as well (he even commented on how much happier I was)! I'm including the link to their website in case anyone is interested. www.tongrentang.com/en/index.php

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Hi Everyone! I'm new here and I saw some good ideas for dealing with depression. I stopped taking medication 3 years ago when i got pregnant with my daughter. I'm a stay at home mom and I find that most days just playing with her is the best medicine. On the days that doesn't work I try to surround my self with friends and family. They have always been supportive and most days are all the medicine I need.

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I have been diagnosed as bi-polar, GAD, and a few other things by different doctors at different times. I have tried different meds, either the side effects, or the fact that they just didnt work made me quit them all. However I take a multi-vitamin and a Kava supplement. I try to eat a balanced diet and get some exercise every day. Most of the time this combination works for me. Sometimes it doesnt, and on those days I try to get outside and go for a jog/walk, talk to a friend, and stay busy. If I let myself lie around and watch tv all day, it just gets worse.

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Sounds like a good idea ROOSTER 72. Let me know how it goes with your Dr. In the meantime I'm gonna see about getting the book. I'm willing to try ALMOST anything that will show signs of helping. I feel like crap most of the time, but I think a lot of it is my meds.

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I have just come across a book called 'The Feel Good Factor' by Patrick Holford.
It is full of exciting stuff, including recommending you get tested to see if you are lacking various nutrients. It describes certain symptoms related to depressive type feelings, and then indicates a nutrient you might be lacking.
Vitamin B, Omega 3, Chromium etc.

You might have heard of these, and think you are eating a balanced diet that should give you these nutrients, but I was interested to read that sometimes you might need a period of intensive intaking of those nutrients (eg supplements for a few months)

Has anyone heard of this guy (based in the UK, qualified Dr in psychology & nutrition)?

I am seeing my Dr this week, and am going to ask about getting some of these tests.
I don't want to take a lot of unnecessary supplements, but if I can identify one (or a few) that could help, I would be over the moon!

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I was on Zoloft for PPD.
Since I started my healthy change (saturday) I have drank only water, ate healthy taking one multi vitamin and one st. john's wort. So far I feel good. I cant believe the difference in my over all mood.. (also exercising).
I have stopped taking the meds.

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Hello Everyone. This is my first post on the site. I was diagnosed with Bi-Polar disorder, chronic depression and anxiety/panic attacks about 20 years ago. I've researched a lot of alternative remedies and just haven't come across the right thing for me yet. I currently take Prozac, Wellbutrin, Lamictal, Abilify & Ativan. I am sooooo tired of taking all these meds that I could just scream, but the alternative (not taking them) for me is much worse. I probably would not be here if not for these meds. Problem is over the years they have changed them around so much and now that we have found a basic treatment they have to keep adding more of the same drugs to stay on top of it. I'm all for trying anything that works for others. H E L P!

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Hi all, first post here but had to put my comments in too. First of all, I truly believe that medicine has it's place to help one cope with depression but I noticed it wasn't a cure all for me. I've had to take a hard look at my life and habits and start making some changes that would benefit me. I have noticed some things that have really made my depression something I can live with.

One major thing I've noticed is that my soda intake affects my moods. I do stick with diet soda, but if I drink a lot in one day with no water i feel really blah and just don't have any energy. If I drink one in the afternoon followed by a couple glasses of water, then another in the evening it doesn't affect me as much. Eating more nutritious food and less sugar also seems to help.

Another major thing that helped me was a decision to really look at my life and what was going on. I realized that I was really stressing over some things that I truly could not change. On the other hand I wasn't paying enough attention to what really mattered (finances, family, caring for myself). I have slowly been getting my priorities straight and it has made all the difference in the world.

I have also started removing "toxic" friends from my life and replacing them with ones who genuinely care about me. Being surrounded with people who help celebrate your achievements and sympathize your downs is a priceless thing to have. I do still have some of those "toxic" friends but have learned not to rely on them or honestly even trust them with a lot of personal things.

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Everyone should watch GenerationRx. (Currently playing on Netflix Instant View) It was very informative. This program is about the medicating of kids, but it touches on adults as well.

I had been considering talking to my doc about meds for myself. Some days are so hard, and so many people I know are on them... but after watching this... I don't think I will. I will try all other methods of handling the down days ... be it writing (what I do most often), exercise, positive self talk, prayer, sunshine (works wonders for me)... and even just eating right & taking vitamins.



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Hi,

I've been here before, however it has been a very long time. I have been having some bad side affects from my meds. I would like to wean off. My pdoc doesn't want to decrease my dose, however my family dr does. I like the suggestions that have been given here for alternatives to the medications. Currently I eat healthy, exercise, pray, and meditate. I am also active with AA. I have some good support. My life is much more stable than it was a few years ago.

I also hike so I get a lot of outdoor time. I like to go to tan at a tanning bed. Do you think that is helpful or damaging?

Any way I just wanted to stop by and read some of your suggestions. I think I'll make an appt with my family dr to work with me on weaning off the meds.


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I don't need meds, lower dose or anything. Very happy off them emoticon

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Sounds to me as if you need to find another doctor for meds. I have been very lucky in seeing a compassionate doc who wants the lowest dose of the least side effects drugs for me.

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I haven't read all the posts, cause there's just so many and I've read some of this page.

I was naughty and didn't wean off my anti-d's. I just stopped taking them cold turkey. And before anyone considers giving me a lecture, I've had all the lectures already and you can't turn back time, so there's no use giving me a lecture.

If you didn't want to give me a lecture, great! If you do, just don't!

That's just me, I am either on them or off them, no in betweens and I know it is not advised and I know why.

I was just damn fed up with all the crappy side effects and had, had enough!

My side effects were, major fatigue, vertigo, visual disturbances, lack of focus, bad memory, no sex drive, major nausea and some other effects. I just couldn't handle feeling like crap all the time. Yes, maybe a better version of crap, due to the anti-d's, but the one benefit was outweighed by the side effects.

I felt quite empowered making the decision to change my life and stop the meds.

I had discussed it with my counsellor, who supported my decision to stop meds. My DR on the other hand was just closed-minded. He said "the side effects are just part of being on them, so you just have to live with them". He wasn't open to changing the meds to a different kind or lowering my dose. It pissed me off, his lack of compassion and consideration for my wants and needs.

So, what I did, in conjunction with stopping the meds, was change my eating habits, to the low g.i diet and started exercising.

Also, I have great supports in place and a positive attitude.

I am way happier, except when I have PMS, but that's normal.

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I have a wonderful group of 3 yoga friends who meet once a month for meditation, book discussion and support. Last night one phrase that kept pushing its way into our conversation was "don't be attached to the outcome." Whatever alternatives one tries to deal with depressive illness, let it work its way with you. For both mainstream and alternative meds or activities, we do ourselves no favors when we start them expecting success or failure.

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I think the idea is to empower ourselves. If we feel trapped or frustrated by our current solutions - be they medical or otherwise, then getting as much information as possible is important.

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Thanks for this post. I checked out the link and found it really helpful.

What progress, you ask, have I made? I have begun to be a friend to myself. ~Hecato, Greek Philosopher


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I borrowed this from TRYINGHARD60's blog with her permission. I think remembering this idea may help us all look at ourselves from a healthier perspective.

"Show me a miracle," she said.

"I am looking at one," I responded.

"Every element in your body has been around since the beginning of Time. What makes your body has experienced being part of this Universe, being part of a star, super nova and solar deep space before becoming part of this Earth. You are a child of the Stars. You are made from stardust.

At one particular moment all the elements that were needed to make you combined and You began.

So when you look in the mirror, look carefully, that tear in your eye, it's made from water molecules that have roamed the Universe. That sparkle reflects the sunlight of old.

You have a huge responsibility for now you are in control of a miracle. Treat the miracle that is You with love, with respect and with care.

And remember everyone around you is a miracle too. We are all made from stardust. What an awesome responsibility we all have to treat each other as miracles."

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Well, I can only speak for myself. I think it's merely a matter of preference. No one HAS to find alternatives to medication, but they should be able to do so if they want to. Some are fine with taking medication. Others prefer to find a more natural way to deal with this illness. I know people who do the same thing for physical aliments.

For, me, personally, I don't have any physical aliments (Thank God) and am trying to keep it that way. I have anxiety and depression, and have been that way most of my life. I've been on Zoloft twice over the course of 26 years. Both were for about a year. I'm not cool with the side effects and am worried about long term side effects (i.e. damage to the liver). Really not interested in trying another medication either. If I ever did develop a physically illness, yes, I would look into natural alternatives as well, first, before I ever decided to take a pharmaceutical drug.

I find that by doing certain things, I am able to manage and control things, and live a happy life. I go to therapy, exercise, eat fruits/veggies, pray, listen to good music, rid myself of toxic people, practice Emotional Freedom Technique, and so on. My personal preference is to manage my illness instead of masking the symptoms. I don't think there is anything wrong with taking medication, I just know now that it is not the right choice for me.

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Why is it that for physical illnesses, it's perfectly fine to use medical intervention and medications....but for a mental illness, we must find "alternative therapies?"

Isn't the brain a part of the body?

Would you tell someone with asthma to give up their inhaler and just think happy thoughts and it will all go away?

I'm sick of this crap. I'll be medicated for the rest of my LIFE and nothing I do will ever change that.

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Try to believe someday God will show you that kind of happiness again but even in a better way. I tell myself that also. We have to believe, if not how would it ever happen. Just as we believe we can lose weight and are proving it to ourselves we can find happiness again but it's God that will prove it to us. Never give up on what you want just remember it may come in the form God wants us to have it.

"With God anything is possible".
I'm not going this alone, God is right beside me!
I will fall but God will pick me up again!


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Dear CityGirlTina,
I hear ya and I know where you are coming from! What the heck we may as well feel as good as we can. I don't think I will ever be as happy as I was when I seemed to have everything going for me. emoticon
I do though believe I will feel better if I continue to live healthier. emoticon
Lets hang in there and keep trying. That's the only alternative. emoticon

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I joined this group once but wouldn't get on and write. I just couldn't bring myself to do it. But I decided to come back. So here I go! I love to go walking but I hate to leave the house. It's a fight with myself to get out sometimes. But it's easier to get out to go walking than it is to get out and have a life. After being married for 16 years and just settling into the body I was growing I found it hard to love myself. Most all my life I had been a size 3 to 5. While being married I became depressed and grew to a size 16. Then 2 years ago when I started to find myself and love me again I started trying to lose weight and it was coming off. I never dreamed that I would also lose my husband to another woman a year later. It depressed me so much I closed myself off to the world. I didn't stop tying to eat healthy but I guess it was, "The not exercising that did it". The weight loss had slowed down I even gained back 18 lbs. from Nov. to March. I now realize why, it was the holidays and then March 30 was my exes birthday and April 2nd would have been our 17th Anniversary. It got me even more depressed but I didn't see it till now. I know it will get easier in time but for now how do I make myself live again? So depressed and so lonely!

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I just read a really good Spark article Using Exercise to Relieve Depression and remembered that I have heard this before and I also know that when I was doing water walking it helped to straighten out my mind and feelings


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I just signed up in the last hour so am doing lots of reading. I enjoyed your post. You are completely correct about the vitamin D3. I live in Michigan and there is cloud cover most of the time. People keep reminding me "we have the Great Lakes". Not helpful. I could use some sun. It was so cloudy yesterday my GPS couldn't get a signal. I also find retreating from people is not helpful when battling depression. Of course, when I most need to be around others is when I want to dig a hole under the bed. When spring arrives it will be easier since it's easier to be outside and do things like gardening. I have also been taking ashwagandha with the omega 3's. Are you familiar with it? Am also trying to stop as soon as I have a negative thought but those patterns are so hard to break. In any case, I look forward to reading more of your posts as I found this one informative and encouraging. Thanks.




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I have taken SAM-e in the past but did not find it especially helpful. I recently started taking ashwaganda and will keep you informed about how I think it works. It is supposed to help with cortisol and also with anxiety. I have taken anti-depressants for years and finally weaned myself off of them. I just got tired of taking meds and didn't feel like they really made a difference.

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Anyone here taking SAM-e and liking it, or took it and stopped?

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Have loved the Beatles since I was a kid. We are about the same age. Liked what you wrote about psychiatrists just pushing pills without proper tests. So true. All the best Stay well

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I try to get outside and enjoy the sun, spend time hiking and being away from too many people and the chaos of the city. I also listen like to listen to The Beatles to put me in a positive mood (I Wanna Hold Your Hand, Please Please Me, Love Me Do, and a lot of their earlier songs put me in a positive mood).
I also take Vitamin B-12 since it helps to stabilize my mood. I've found that the B-12 works much better than the prescription pills forced on my by every psychiatrist that I've ever been to. I refuse to take anti-depresants/anti-anxiety medication anymore. The last one that I was on caused mini-seizures and I'd periodically forget where I was and what I was doing which made my anxiety so much worse. Iron deficiency is another cause of depression (which is a problem that I have).
So many times psychiatrists prescribe all these pills without requesting any blood work. I found out 2 years ago that I have PCOS and an iron deficiency - both of which can cause depression, not to mention the lack of B-vitamins in my diet. So while psychiatrists were diagnosing me with bipolar disorder/depression/anxiety, they weren't trying to search for a cause. They just got their little prescription pad out, put me on various drugs (I've been on so many over the years I've lost count), and sent me on my way all within 15 minutes.
There's a link at the bottom about Vitamin B and depression. You can also find articles on-line about iron deficiency and depression.
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I joined a club of writers where they discuss each other's work I cant write but go for the company. Keeps me from food & brooding

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it is difficult but its always worth a try... im slowly getting there i think just need a few shoves in the right direction

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That's true change in surrounding helps keep you well. But with depression can be hard

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I've heard a simple change in your surroundings can help. Nice smells, flowers, exercise and nice healthy food, positive colour surroundings etc. I would love to be able to do all of these things. I currently do eat a lot of healthy food but I also eat a lot of unhealthy food too. The other things I find it difficult to get the motivation or money to be able to decorate, buy flowers, invest in mood enhancing aromatherapy oils etc... i just can't afford it really. I have plenty of time on my hands to decorate but in all honesty I just cant be bothered. I know that by the time I have moved everything out of my bedroom so i can paint in there then i will have sweated enough calories off but will just want to go to sleep so as my blog suggest.... stuck in a rutt...!!!

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Haven't read the book yet but plan to look for it on my next visit to US

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I just read Dr. Judith Orloff's guide to Intuitive Healing, and though I don't agree with everything she has to say in the book, I would recommend it to anyone who wants to get started with a new approach to emotional or physical healing. In the book Dr. Orloff teaches how to get in touch with what your body and mind want and need.
This book helped me through a pretty rough patch recently. Has anyone else read this book?

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BROKENKITTEN Agree with you wholeheartedly. I had a bad fungal infection on a toe & it was only cured after homeopathic treatment. JREIDY may have had some problem some time. But I know that am slowly getting out of that depression by doing more.

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JREIDY: Not to judge you, but you sound really cynical! Medical science has proven that integrative therapies such as herbs, reiki, and other alternatives under the supervision of your doctor can work real wonders! These alternatives are meant to compliment (not replace) medical treatment. As a teenager I was prescribed a slew of medications that were supposed to be "beneficial" and most made me toxic and/or suicidal. But pseudo-scientific crappola such as homeopathic treatments, meditation and a few other items of "witch-doctory" and I have been med-free for five years. I still struggle with depression, I still check in with my doctor, but I am no longer dependent on a pill to make me feel ok. My advice to everyone: open your minds & hearts and try something new. (under the supervision of your MD of course!)

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But moving about keeps one happier. Not a Dr but judging from me see that days I move about more feel better than other days,

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Aerobic exercise I have heard is a non-medical alternative for depression but if you suffer from bipolar disorder like I do that doesn't always help.


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Think that changing one's lifestyle might help such as being more active. Eating healthier food

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Gawd I just love all these non-medical people giving advice for a serious medical problem.

If you had cancer would you take coffee enemas? Probably not. If you had a gun shot wound would you use a bandage? I doubt it.

In spite of what Tom Cruise and the rest of those idiot Scientologists say, mental illness and depression are extremely serious ailments and should be treated by a psychiatrist and with appropriate meds. If the meds don't work, and they often don't for a while, talk to the doctor and get a prescription change.

But for god's sake don't screw around with St. John's wort or any of that other pseudo-scientific crappola.

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About not taking your meds talk to your Dr. Maybe he could try something else3. Glad you enjoy being here before meeting most of us.

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