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I can really say the snacking part of losing weight is where my changes have had to happen because I ate healthy before but I was a snacker. I am learning to NOT snack but accept the hunger feeling. It is hard at times. When I go out and run around I have a ziploc of walnuts with me,they fill me up.

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Today is the 6th day in a row that I have eaten healthy thoughtful choices.

For years I would start a diet in the morning and be off of it by dinner. I call it 'dieting for half my life'

Although I have read, and read again and read again the several small meals instructions, somehow it clicked for me this week. 300 calories every 3 hours.

It is working. I cannot believe how well I am doing. I am not getting the crazy 4pm hungers.

I did have a sweet craving last night, but still had a few hundred calories left so I had a slimfast bar (they are meant for meal replacements but I sometimes use them as candy replacements)

I just need to do this for the rest of my life, no big deal, right?

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The CAD is pretty strict about which vegetables to have wit your low carb and your high carb, this is not the area to experiment with. I've chosen not to indulge in the morning cup of coffee or tea and reserve it for my Reward Meal only. They don't give specifics on herbal teas, so this is an area for research. I choose to limit it to my FM.

Prepared foods often have sugar or MSG to enhance flavors, so I usually don't buy engineered foods by Agribusiness. I don't like all of the additives and preservatives that are in most of them. Read the ingredients carefully. MSG is often called "broth", "natural flavoring", "Hydrolyzed soy or vegetable protein", etc, Breeders raise mice for science by only adding MSG to a normal diet and they get fatter even though they eat the same quantities as the normal mice. So buyer beware!

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OK so bottom line is that we must be our own experiment of one to find out what our body's reaction to food really is. So there are no carved in stone for everybody rules...other than junk food sucks. ROFL

Green Giant makes a whole variety of "just for one" sides of veggies, like steamed broccoli in cheese sauce, or corn and carrots. Although corn and carrots are starchy...I think the portion(s) really matter too.
I cant wait to get that book now

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When your book arrives, there is a test in it that will help you determine if you are a Carbohydrate Addict. The fact that you were hungry after eating rice cake, shows that you did have an insulin response due to the carbohydrates signalling your insulin to not only take care of the new blood sugar, but to lower it so that you were craving carbs again.

The Heller's offer options and a little bit of grace. They allow a cup of tea or coffee in the morning, because they know that this is a habit many people have to get going in the morning. They then recommend not to have another cup until your Reward Meal. As a Psychologist, Dr. Rachael Heller took into consideration the difficulty that many people have with compliance and with being able to stick with an eating program for the long term. There are many diets that work in the short term, and then stop working because we or our body's rebel.

I think that you will like the book. The stories are interesting and actually provide useful information that supplements the rest of the text. I say this because I often skip the stories as I sometimes consider them "filler", but this is not the case with this book. They increase your understanding.

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yes it helps that the book has options.

We are all different, several body types that respond to things way differently than others do.
I can't eat rice cakes without getting more hungry than I would be if I didnt eat them period. But I know countless others who swear by them as fillers and satisfying snacks that stave off hunger for 4-6 hr when I would have to chow down after 2-3 hrs.

I know that people get hungry when they SMELL something good, especially sweets, but I have a hard time believing that EVERYBODY has a homeostasis endocrne biofeedback responce due to a bi-phasic insulin trigger. I think genetic pre-disposition is a great factor...as well as one's surroundings having a manipulative effect on their own genes.

There has got to be a prerequisit STEP leading to _____ ....I mean like a simple trail and error food reaction determining how sensitive one is....if they need to concern themselves at all.

For me I KNOW I had a carb issue, with carb cravings and sweet cravings and drank soda all day long and ate junk food. But Because my Dr says my triglycerides are good, my glocus levels are normal and I am NOT borderline diabetic anymore...(lost 50 lbs) perhaps I have successfully re-set my hypothamus and am OK. LOL maybe thats wishful thinking...but untill the book arives I dont see concerning myself at this point.
However--I have been STUCK for over a year now at around this same weight...
But I tend to think thats more because I slacked off so much here and there and...just not as consistent with 3x daily walks or trips to the gym.



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This is what I thought too, but reading further, some other teas can raise your insulin too. Unfortunately, the authors didn't elaborate on which ones. I was drinking Blackberry Tea when I read this and I stopped except for my Reward Meal. If you are doing everything else according to the plan and still drinking tea and are losing weight, then perhaps you are drinking a tea that doesn't affect you, but if you are still having carbohydrate cravings, then try another tea or drink plain water cool or iced. I'm following all of the "Options" that the authors talk about in the book. They are options and when you first start, the basics take time to adjust to, so don't overload yourself with too many concerns. It is the reaction that your body has that counts and we are all different. I hope that this helps.

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Pardon me for asking a maybe stupid question...but only "TEA" teas have all that caffine right. Teas made from other plants besides the tea plant are not insulin triggers...unless they are sweetened?

Or is it more of a case that all teas are based on the tea plant and flavored with other things...ginger tea, cinnonin tea, Jasmine tea, etc?

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I'm just starting to read Henry Lu's book on Food as Medicine. It is beyond me at the moment, but it will make a good book to study and master. Fortunately, I have a friend who is getting his Masters in Oriental Medicine and I can always ask him to help me understand. Much of it has to be memorized and integrated to be useful.

I don't like luke warm water either, but it comes out of the water filter cool and I carry it around with me in the car in an insulated bag.

As for teas, you can enjoy all of them at your Reward Meal sweetened or plain. I do like my tea iced or hot, but I'm learning to drink it at room temperature, if the room is not too hot. Teas may raise your insulin levels according to the Heller's latest book. I'm confining my enjoyment to the Reward Meal, because I am Insulin Resistant and I want to reverse that as soon as possible.

I always drank hot green tea and oolong tea without sweeteners, so I can adapt to the pure taste of herb teas too. I'm actually a card carrying member of the Ten Ren Tea Company in Los Angeles who import fine Chinese teas, so sweetening my tea and drinking it cold might get me expelled if it got around. Don't tell anyone!
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I respect Chinese Medicine,..but I dont know too much about it. I have heard the room tempt, vs cold or hot before. Those born northern hemispere, southern or closer to the equator. I cant drink luke water just yet....but now that spark has armed with the HOW TO's, it will be something to work on.

Now I have more motivation to try many other types of teas anyway right?

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Don't fret! Once a day, I can enjoy a cup of Raspberry tea with Splenda at the end of my meal and you know what they say about the taste of "forbidden fruit"; I've never enjoyed a cup of tea more in my life. This should be called the "Epicurean Diet". Watch our though, I started drinking ice water and a Taoist Healer told me that I should only drink room temperature water for my body type according to Chinese Medicine. "There is always something!" Now I enjoy the taste of plain filtered water too.
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emoticon It took me sooo long to give up diet coke. I gradually switched it with Green Tea. Now Ive got to reduce that caffine anyway...Oh. AND the splenda too. {sigh} Oh well, its a good thing I like drinking plain ice cold water now. lol



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Carolyn, You are welcome. It is a whole new perspective for me too. I had been drinking green tea all day long sweetened with a very small amount of Splenda and when I read about caffeine causing an increase in insulin, I switched to herbal tea, with Splenda, then I read about the sweet taste alone, so I dropped the splenda, then I read about herbal teas possibly having the same effect, and I now drink only water except for my Reward Meal, where I enjoy a hot or cold herbal tea with Splenda. Needless to say, I was disappointed with what I read, but grateful for the knowledge and the opportunity to make changes that I had never considered a problem before. It is a lot to adjust to and the beauty of it is that we can make incremental steps in the right direction and take the next step as we adjust to the last one. As long as we are making progress, we can be a little tolerant to the fact that we are human and change is not always easy, especially when we are making so many of them at once. Good luck with your goals!
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THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

Very helpful. I wonder if there is a test to see how sensitive one is as to biphasic production of insulin. I had no idea that it could be triggered by taste alone and not as a biofeedback endocrine responce. Guess I got to check out that book!!! Thank you again!

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The book, Carbohydrate Addict's LifeSpan Program is available for 49 cents from Amazon.com's used book partners. The book that I purchased cost an additional $3.29 in shipping and handling. All of the information about the program is in the book and the bibliography is extensive. You can also find it at your local library, if you are interested in learning more. It is by Dr. Richard Heller and Dr. Rachael Heller.
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Snacking can be good or bad depending upon the individual. If you are in a very vigorous training program, then snacks may be appropriate to replace glycogen that is used by your muscles. If you are overweight and sedentary and are craving carbohydrates, then snacking may not be appropriate. An Olympic athlete can consume an enormous amount of calories and barely maintain his weight, like Michael Phelps. Craving in itself may be a symptom of a more serious problem, if one is not exercising more than an hour a day. It is completely dependent upon the individual and their health status and activity level. It is neither good or bad, it is either appropriate or inappropriate for any particular individual.

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TREATMENT OF INSULIN RESISTANCE

Gabe Mirkin, M.D.

Most people who develop diabetes in later life can be controlled so that they are not at increased risk for the many complications of diabetes such as heart attacks, strokes, blindness, deafness, amputations, kidney failure, burning foot syndrome, venous insufficiency with ulceration and stasis dermatitis. Late onset diabetes usually means that a person has too much insulin because his cells cannot respond to insulin. Too much insulin constricts arteries to cause heart attacks, and stimulates your brain and liver to make you hungry and manufacture fat. The insulin resistance syndrome (IRS) puts you at very high risk for a heart attack and is associated with storing fat in the belly, rather than the hips; having high blood triglyceride levels and low level of the good HDL cholesterol; high blood pressure and an increased tendency to form clots.

If you have any of these signs, check with your doctor who will order a blood test called HBA1C. If it is high, you have diabetes and can usually be controlled with diet and/or medication. You should learn how to avoid foods that give the highest rise in blood sugar. When you eat, blood sugar level rises. The higher it rises, the more sugar sticks on cells. Once stuck on a cell membrane, sugar can never detach itself. It is converted to a poison called sorbitol that damages the cell to cause all the side effects of diabetes mentioned above.

Avoid the foods that cause your blood sugar to rise quickly. These include all types of flour products: bread, spaghetti, macaroni, bagels, rolls, crackers, cookies and pretzels; refined corn products and white rice; and all sugar added products. Eat lots of vegetables, un-ground whole grains, beans, seeds and nuts. Eat fruits and root vegetables (potatoes, carrots and beets) only with other foods.

There are two type of drugs that are used to treat diabetes: those that lower blood sugar and raise insulin, and those that lower blood sugar and lower insulin also. As I mentioned earlier, insulin is a bad hormone, so the safest drugs are those that lower both insulin and sugar. Virtually all diabetics should be on Glucophage before meals. It prevents blood sugar levels from rising too high and sticking to cells and has an excellent safety record. However, eating a few bagels will produce such a high rise in blood sugar that Glucophage will not be effective. So Glucophage is used in addition to avoiding foods that cause a high rise in blood sugar. If HBA1C cannot be controlled with diet and Glucophage, your doctor will usually add Avandia 4mg or Actos 30mg. They are essentially the same and can cause liver damage, so liver tests must be done monthly, at least for the first few months.

You should be seen monthly and get either a HBA1C (which measures blood sugar control over the past two months) or fructosamine (which measures control over two weeks). Each time that your HBA1C is above normal, you should yell at your doctor to change your drugs and he should yell at you to change your diet.

If your HBA1C is still not under control, you need to take a bad drug that raises insulin levels. I usually start with Glipizide XL. If that doesn't control your HBA1C, I raise the dose, and if that still doesn't work, you will need to inject yourself with insulin.


1) K Rett. The relation between insulin resistance and cardiovascular complications of the insulin resistance syndrome. Diabetes Obesity & Metabolism, 1999, Vol 1, Suppl. 1, pp S8-S16.

2) J Tooke. The association between insulin resistance and endotheliopathy Diabetes Obesity & Metabolism, 1999, Vol 1, Suppl. 1, pp S17-S22.

3) B Balkau, E Eschwege. Insulin resistance: an independent risk factor for cardiovascular disease? Diabetes Obesity & Metabolism, 1999, Vol 1, Suppl. 1, pp S23-S31.

4) M Kobayashi. Effects of current therapeutic interventions on insulin resistance. Diabetes Obesity & Metabolism, 1999, Vol 1, Suppl. 1, pp S32-S40. 5) CA Reasner. Promising new approaches. Diabetes Obesity & Metabolism, 1999, Vol 1, Suppl. 1, pp S41-S48.

5) CA Reasner. Promising new approaches. Diabetes Obesity & Metabolism, 1999, Vol 1, Suppl. 1, pp S41-S48.

-- Checked 10/8/08

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Insulin release is biphasic, when your first taste sweets (artificial or real) your body releases insulin based on your needs from your last consumption of carbs. Even if you chew sugarless gum, your body releases insulin; there is no increase in blood sugar, but the insulin is released anyway. Too Much Insulin Shortens Your Life. If you eat a lot of carbs, then an additional amount of insulin is released.

Gabe Mirkin, M.D.
"Eating a lot of bakery products, pasta or foods and drinks made with added sugars can shorten your life and cause diabetes.

"When you eat, your blood sugar rises, causing your pancreas to release insulin into your bloodstream. The foods that cause your blood sugar to rise the most are called "high glycemic index foods." The foods that cause the highest rise are those made with flour, milled corn, white rice or other refined grains, and added sugars.

"You need insulin to keep blood sugar levels from rising too high, but having too much insulin can kill you. Excess insulin makes you fat by causing fat to enter fat cells, your brain to tell you that you are hungry, and your liver to make fat from extra calories. It causes strokes and heart attacks by causing clots, raising triglycerides and lowering the good HDL cholesterol. Insulin promotes oxidation that converts the bad LDL cholesterol to oxidized LDL that forms plaques in arteries. High levels of insulin cause your kidneys to retain salt and raise blood pressure. The best ways to lower insulin are to avoid being overweight, restrict foods made with flour or added sugars, and eat fruits and root vegetables with other foods to keep blood sugar levels from rising too high."
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For someone who is sensitive to carbohydrates, even eating fruits, root vegetables, legumes or whole grain products that have plenty of fiber as a snack causes an insulin overload, because their cells have become insulin resistant and the blood sugar is not delivered to the cells but transported to the liver, converted to fat cells, and stored in the belly as visceral fat, the deadliest kind and the hardest to lose.

For these people, including myself, snacking on carbs can be deadly as excess insulin is the key to many diseases: diabetes, high blood pressure, cancer, and heart disease. I loved snacking, but I love living a healthy long healthy life more. It is a matter of life or death.

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Carbohydrates in general cause insulin production...If you have more sugar in the bloodstream than you need, yes insulin will be triggered and sugar converted to fat and stored in order to remove the excess sugar from the blood stream so your brain doesnt go into glucose coma.

In this we are saying the same thing yes? too much sugar triggers insulin spikes that remove too much sugar and cause us to be hungry faster and its a perpetual cycle as long as one continues to eat high carb foods.

Certain foods have greater amounts of both soluble and insoluble fiber that prevents the conversion of carbs to sugar, absorbs some of the sugar preventing uptake...and or absorbs some of the insulin preventing conversion.
The amount of "CARBOHYDRATES" in fruits...(while being higher in natural sugars) ....is actually LESS than in alot of starchy vegatables such as a potato, cooked carrots, creamed corn...etc. So even though they have more sugar...they have less carbs...and less of a glycemic load...and trigger less insulin.

The Glycemic index is how fast sugars (starches/grains...converted to sugars) are put into the blood stream from the point of eating them. Glycemic load is the total or highest amount of sugar put into the bloodstream for a specific portion size...at any given time after eating them.

The more fiber and complex conversions the longer it takes and the more spred out the sugar supply is...we cannot survive or live without glocuse in the bloostream feeding our brains. Fruits DO have a high glycemic index but in the right portion size their glycemic load can actually assist in preventing too much sugar or absorbing too much insulin.
Having a few saltine crackers....(white flour starch)with NO sugar at all, has a higher glycemic LOAD to trigger more insulin than the same bulk of a strawberry does with all its natural sugars.

There is a trick to eat healthy with foods that provide a more steady supply of sugar over a longer period of time than prepackaged junk foods.

Yes certain foods (especially in larger portions) make you hungry faster. Those are high in carbs and low in fiber...usuallly added sugar too.

But most of these listed here are the healthier choices...assuming they are small portions as to not spike bloodstream glucose or insulin production.
Everything in moderation.

Again Can you explain the theory better than just being appossed to snacking in general? Or is that the crux of what you are saying...that snacking period is the bad thing because most snacks are low fiber, high sugar, fake overly processed junk?

What are the the principles of the Carbohydrate Addict's LifeSpan Program that define these listed foods as not healthy?

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Until recently, I would have agreed with everything that you wrote as I felt the same way. I had to snack, because I hated feeling hungry and if I didn't I felt ravenous at my next meal.

What I didn't know is that all of those "healthy snacks" that I was eating made me hungry. I was a frugivarian many years ago and I ate only fruit and I lost a lot of weight and felt great, however, I found that it wasn't a very social diet and I gradually moved away from it.

The fructose in fruit, the sweetness in sugar substitutes all causes insulin production, which takes the blood sugar and converts it to fat. This leave us with low blood sugar and we get hungry for a snack to maintain our happy blood sugar level, but it just repeats the cycle over and over again. The insulin transports the blood sugar to be converted into fat. This was a very advantageous process before there was an abundance of food. Early humans never knew where their next meal was coming from and we have a genetic preference for sweets as opposed to bitter taste. Bitter taste often a sign of poison in nature, best to be avoided. We would consume as much as we could, drop off to sleep and our body would store the excess a bat to be burnt off walking to the next food source. A perfectly fine and natural process until there was an abundance of food. Our body kept doing its job, but we kept getting fatter and when we were hungry, we didn't have to trek for miles to find food, it was in our pantry or the fast food place down the street. Now healthy foods like fruit have become a problem because of this amazing ability of our body to store fat and to motivate us to trek some more to keep yourselves happy.

We snack because the foods that we most often snack on make us hungry for more snacks. The snack food industry has a perpetual customer, that eats its products which makes us hungry for more of their products. The terrible thing is that it doesn't make any difference if it is sugar free or not, the simple taste of sweetness triggers our body to release more insulin and we get hungry and grumpy until we are fed again.

My wife and I would always get grumpy before meals and we would think of say out loud, someone is experiencing low blood sugar. These comments were not well received by either of us until we had eaten a snack and then we could laugh and say, it was just low blood sugar.

I don't like the facts either and neither does my wife, but since we have applied the principles of the Carbohydrate Addict's LifeSpan Program to our eating habits, we don't feel the need to snack, and we are actually enjoying our meals more. I, the worst offender, am actually eating slower and enjoying my meal, rather than attacking it like a hungry dog. This was and is not a conscious process; I think that the stabilization of my insulin levels has been responsible for the change.

None of this may apply to you, but it applied to me and perhaps it applies to other who may recognize a bit of themselves in this discussion.
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I snack because I dont like feeling hungry...ever...including at meal times. Thats not to say I snack because I GET hungry, on the contrary its a preventive measure. Because as soon as you feel hungry...your body has already started to lower its metabolism for conservation until you eat again.

If I go without a snack Im perfectly fine...until its time to eat and I'm more than ready to get busy. Then I find it much harder to stop eating or stick to my planned alocations within a sitting.

When you over-eat...your metabolism slows down in favor of digestion rather than energy conversion...and you inadvertently have more fuel than your body needs and wind up going into storage mode.

So that answers that question of why I snack...to keep the flame the most consistent for as long of a streak as possible.

To say I could be making even WISER food choices that burn slow and steady for longer than 6-8 hours...well I'm not quite ready to eat 3/4th of my diet in vegatables, but yes that is very true.

I am a firm believer in Glycemic Index where one giant strawberry, a couple banana chucks, all covered in a wee bit of sugar free chocolate...on a high fiber multi grain low carb waffer...is the best way to combat that sweet tooth and a GREAT way to curb that craving for a Death by Chocolate covered cake with ice cream. owww and maybe one or two individual chopped peanuts..oh and a 1/4 cup of suagr free orange or lime serbert.

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The question to ask oneself, is why do I need a snack? If my blood sugar were balanced, I wouldn't need a snack. If I am tired and sluggish, perhaps the snack or the meal that I ate a couple of hours earlier was not really what I needed to eat.

I visited France in the Summer for my son's wedding. People don't snack in France. It drove me nuts. My wife and I brought almonds and fruit with us to snack on, while my son and his fiancée ate regular meals and didn't feel the need for a snack. I thought that this was weird coming from the US where the food industry is built upon snacks and 24 hour drive through fast food places.

Recently I discovered a book called the Carbohydrate Addict's Diet and read it. I decided to try it and I started losing weight and didn't feel the need to snack. My energy level was high, I was able to go from breakfast to lunch without the need to snack and from lunch to dinner without needing a snack. Even more remarkable, I can go from dinner to bed without desiring a snack. Occasionally, if I have had a hard workout at the gym I may have a snack, but it is a low carb snack of celery, radishes, baby turnips, cheese, or other protein and this is only if there is gong to be a delay in meal time, but usually I don[t feel the need for a snack on most days.

The snacks that I choose are low carb vegetable and protein. Any high carb snack causes an insulin response which will make you want another snack when the immediate energy from the carbs is gone and your blood sugar has dropped again. Athletes can eat when and what they want as they are constantly burning the carbs for energy. When they stop training, you can see what happens to many of them, if you look at the coaches of NFL teams. They still eat like an athlete but they are inactive and it all goes to fat storage, unless they change their diets and/or keep up a good level of exercise.

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Wow you must REALLY be sensitive. None of these listed snacks in the Spark Portions would send me off. In fact a few I use to keep me balanced. Of course I use sugar free yogurt and only 6 individual strawberries...LOL portion portion portion

If I get the net fiber in and the carbs low (nill sugar)..Im OK.

Would you be willing to put up a list of "Healthy Snacks" that wouldn't spike your insulin?

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For some people, these snacks can make their problem worse. Until recently, I was a "healthy snacker", but my weight was plateaued despite exercising vigorously for 45-60 minutes a day. Then I discovered the High Carbohydrate Addict's Lifespan Program by Dr's. Richard and Rachel Heller. As someone who is Insulin Resistant, all of these healthy, natural snacks were raising my insulin levels and causing me to store fat as well as bringing my eneryg back down and and making me hungry within 1 1/2 to 2 hours. By switching to their program, I'm no longer hungry between meals and I'm losing weight while eating a variety of healthy foods. Not everyone is a Carbohydrate Addict, but for those of us who are, it is really important to get our insulin response back to normal and avoid becoming Insulin Resistant or a Type II Diabetic. These snacks are counter productive in this effort.

Edited by: CHANETC at: 12/3/2008 (14:14)
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thanks so much for taking the time to share really can use these suggestions emoticon trish

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Today's Small Change: Eat for energy.

Does your energy level flatline in the midafternoon? Do you dread exercising or find it hard to get through your walks without feeling fatigued? If so, your body may actually be low on fuel.
Going too long without eating can make you feel tired, cranky, and spacey. Small, healthy snacks or mini meals that include both protein and carbohydrates can help keep your energy levels high throughout the day. What's more, they take very little time to prepare. Most of these make a good breakfast on the go too.

While you probably don't want to eat too close to your workout, having a high-energy snack about an hour before you exercise is a great way to keep your energy level high. Today's small change is to try one of the energizing snacks below — or come up with your own healthful protein-and-carbohydrate snack — to enjoy when your body needs it.

Here are some sample snacks:

Sliced apple with peanut butter (1 tablespoon)
Turkey and tomato on whole-wheat bread (1 slice)
Low-fat cottage cheese and a peach or pear
A hard-boiled egg and a piece of fruit
Almonds (1⁄3 cup) and dried apricots (1⁄4 cup)
A yogurt-and-fruit smoothie
Hummus (1⁄4 cup) and baby carrots
Low-fat yogurt and fresh strawberries
Baked sweet potato with low-fat cottage cheese
Baked tortilla chips (10) and low-fat bean dip (1⁄2 cup)
Reduced-fat cheese (1 1⁄2 ounces) and whole-grain crackers (5)
Half a peanut butter and banana sandwich (1 tablespoon peanut butter)


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