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If you can do hip hop ab I have found it to help me tight up my skin as I exercise. It's really great. Try it.

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Thank you for posting this, and for sharing resources with us all! I love your approach to respecting others, and your open mind. (I posted about a topic of interest to me and got slammed by some Sparkers who thought their way was the only way. Not what I was expecting on this site.)

Anyway, one article I read recommended using a mineral salt scrub to encourage skin to rebuild itself. They suggested "Obey Your Body" Body Scrub (got it on Amazon for about $15.) I LOVE the way my skin feels afterwards - great moisturizing. I think it might be helping my problem area (neck).

Another thing that comes to mind is that this is a good reason to lose weight slowly (1-2 lbs/week) - the "Biggest Loser" approach of rapid weight loss can result in WORSE lose skin.

Also, it's motivation NOT to yo-yo, as doing so probably makes loose skin issues worse.

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Glad everything went well for you.

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1/23/14 9:36 A

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Some insurances are good and will cover for skin issues. I just had my stomach worked on Jan 13th, and the insurance wouldn't cover it at all even though I've spent the last 10 years dealing with constant skin infections. Then again, my surgeon told me about a case he had where one woman had her belly skin falling to below her knees, and her insurance STILL didn't consider the removal as medically necessary. It's getting harder and harder to get the procedure covered. I'm thankful that my husband and I have been able to save up for the last few years to get the procedure done anyway. Besides skin infections, the strain on my back was awful, and my stomach muscles were separated and so far apart that it was difficult to do many things. The other loose skin I have, I can deal with. I lost the weight very slowly so it's not too bad - a big of sagging here and there, lots of stretch marks - but none of it really bothers me too much. I'm learning to embrace myself loose skin and all. :)

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I don't this I could go for skin surgery. So I am going to work out and tigjt as much as I can.

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Well, I've posted this before somewhere on spark but don't remember where. When I lost a great deal of weight in my 20's my skin bounced back. This time, in my 40's, I knew it probably wouldn't. But I didn't want it to stop me from making my decision to lose the weight. I told myself if the results upset me enough I'd consider surgery. I also decided I'd wait for a year of maintenance go by before I even considered it, and I'm just only a few months in at this point.

In some ways it is easier because of my age. I'm sagging everywhere, not just where I carried the weight. So at this point I'm just working on acceptance. My long standing boyfriend is more concerned I don't lose too much, rather than being turned off by the skin, and is recognizing his own appearance aging issues, which helps as well. I'm also very lucky I haven't had infection/rash issues.

One of the weird things is my body keeps changing where it distributes the weight, even in maintenance, at the same weight range from week to week. Some days I feel like an alien, sometimes a human, sometimes too big, sometimes too small...these body image morphs happened when I was heavy, but not as much because I got very used to NOT LOOKING at what I really looked like. I used to live basically from the neck up and my body was just something I dragged around with me. I'm trying to integrate, LOL.

I also don't like pain, and since I'm an addict in every sense of the word (recovering addict, that is), I have to be careful with painkillers. So far, it's easier for me to work on this being an acceptance thing for me. I can totally understand why a different person would want to make choices I have not.

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Glad you okay. I had my gall bladder out but it was with the laser. Three little scars. Had my kids regular. I don't know about removing the loose skin.

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I am thinking about it but the pain is awful. I had a C-section and gall bladder surgery where I was cut from just below the breast all the way down. It was an emergency and my gall bladder burst on the table. I ended up having exploratory surgery looking for stones in my abdomen, lungs, and liver. I was in the hospital for 12 days. I am 59 years old so it's not like I would be running around in a bikini anyway. I just don't know if it is worth it. On the other hand, I am single. emoticon

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1/9/14 4:24 P

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I don't know anyone who had the surgery but I have seen on tv when they remove the loose skin.

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I know of a couple of people that had surgery to remove the excess skin. One was paid for by the insurance because the belly skin "hung down to her pubic bone," as the woman told me. I'm not sure if insurance includes underarm skin. Check into it and see.

My family has bad genetics when it come to underarm skin. We all get the "wings." Mine aren't too bad, yet, but I'm only in my mid 40's. I figure I can live wearing 3/4 length sleeves later on down the line.

Do what you need to do to feel good about yourself. You lost the weight now do something so you are comfortable showing that body off!

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I hope that you can find away to tight it up.

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emoticon No matter how much I strength train and swim I can't stop my arms from jiggling. When I walk in the water I take paddles and push them under the water. It is hard, but, to no avail. However, the lose skin on my abdomen I may be able to have cosmetic surgery on if I want to. I get sores from the skin rubbing together and against my skin. Normally, the insurance would not cover it but because it can cause an infection they will cover the procedure. It is just a question if it is bad enough where I want to have it done.

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Great articles.

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Julia's work is amazing...had come across her a while ago. Such courage! Self-acceptance speaks to the heart of the work that challenges so many of us, including yours truly!

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Thanks for the info.

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There's a new, excellent blog post about this topic by POOKASLUAGH.

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Thanks alot DDOORN.

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Just cross-posting / linking to another thread which I realize is relevant to this thread in case some of you haven't checked it out:

What No One Tells You About Losing Lots of Weight

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This is really bothering me right now. It seems to have gotten a lot worse in the last month. I tried on some jersey knit and sweater knit dresses and thought "oh no, panty lines" when I looked at my sides in the mirror. Then I tried to adjust them and realized the lines were actually wrinkly skin from losing 14 inches from my hips.


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That's the only thing that I don't like is my upper arms. So I am going to work on them.

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Re/ loose skin, I'm willing to live with an awful lot! I figure that, as long as I look good in clothes, there really isn't anything I can do with the loose skin, so let it go hang, lol! The only place I'm not willing to tolerate it is my upper arms, so I strength train to keep that toned.

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My arms are my problem. But I am going to go workout at the church lifting weigh to see if that tighten up them. What's under my clothes is between my hubby and me.

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I lost my weight when I was 21 and have kept it off for nearly 43 years. And guess what? I still have that crinkly stomach and saggy thighs. I also had the "batwings" but I had those lipo'd out a few years ago. Now I have crepy upper arms. There is no winning against age. Being thin is healthier and a lot more comfortable, but I'm still 64 and my skin shows it. My bikini days are long behind me. I do wear low rise jeans because I don't like feeling strangled by a fixed waist, but I wear tops to cover up the sags above the jeans. And jackets. Thank God for jackets!

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Maggie: I have to agree. When I first started loosing weight, it wasn't for looks and I wasn't unhappy with how I looked. It was more to become healthier and avoid the diabetes that I will almost certainly get as I age. (I had gestational diabetes, and the odds are I will get it as I get older.) My triglycerides and cholesterol were high also.

But now, for some reason, I am more unhappy with how I look then I was before. Mine is mainly my stomach. My arms wrinkle in strange ways when I move certain ways, but don't look overly bad, same with legs. But my stomach has some really odd wrinkles and loose skin, especially when wearing jeans or underwear, etc. Never realized this would bother me before I lost the weight. Seems like a constant reminder of what I used to look like, which I would rather forget. But in the grand scheme of things, as long as I my middle is clothed, I look fairly good, I think. Just don't think I will be wearing any low rise jeans, or short shirts or any bikinis.

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Isn't Anje great? She works so hard maintaining and finding new resources for us who are trying to keep the pounds off, and everything else dealing with a weight loss.

What Anje wrote: "One of the more powerful motivators for me to get the weight off and eat right and work out has been to want to feel attractive. And it was a hard blow to know that no matter how well I eat or how much body fat I lose, I'll still have these reminders of how much I used to weigh. And that some people will judge me for it." This really struck me.

Although my appearance wasn't as huge a motivator in my desire to lose weight, as was trying to get healthier, as the pounds came off, I rediscovered how much I enjoyed dressing up, wearing pretty clothes, make-up, feeling feminine. When I substitute teach and the kids notice my wattle, or my excess upper arm skin (AKA batwings), even though I'm wearing long-sleeves, it's extremely discouraging. I worked so hard to " be normal," and yet because of this excess skin I have left, I will never look completely normal.

Everyone carries their weight differently. Some people have huge bellies. Others, like me carried a lot of weight in their behind and arms & legs, and my face was very fat as well. So now, I have that awful wattle hanging from my chin, and lots of excess skin on my arms and legs. Although I have some on my tummy too, it's not bad, and since I don't plan on wearing a two-piece swimming suit anytime soon, I can cover that up quite easily. But the other stuff is frustrating. Frustrating to work so hard and yet still be unable to go out in public without covering up those trouble spots.

Part of it with me and my excess skin problem, is my age. I realize, since I'm past 60, my skin is not as elastic as someone 20 or 30 years younger. I can live with that. I just don't want somebody who is younger and had success using these things telling me some exercise or some elixir lotion will take care of my excess skin. Mine is not going away unless I have surgery, and that expense would be very hard for this 62-year-young woman to justify.

Sometimes when I see the scale climbing, I would sure like to know exactly HOW MUCH this excess skin would weight, if it were to be removed. I'm guessing I have at least 15 pounds of it hanging from various parts of my body. Do you think it would be okay to deduct that from whatever the scale reads every morning??? emoticon


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8/17/13 2:15 A

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I will work on tightening it up as much as I can. But I will not let it get me down.

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Those were some interesting resources. The one with a number of photos was encouraging to a degree. Some of the photos seemed to be removed. I wonder if they were a tad too revealing. But this has been a complaint of mine too. I don't mind the slight amount on my arms and such, but on my stomach bothers me. My husband can eat all he wants and never gain a pound, but I loose 50 pounds and still don't feel comfortable in more showy clothing because of my loose stomach skin. It looks kinda yucky and I have no idea how to make it go away. Doubt I would do surgery, as I would hate recovery, etc. But one of the pictures on the other website, I think I may have considered surgery if I had lost that much weight. I actually don't look bad in a one piece swimsuit, so I can cover it up, as it is only stomach, but otherwise, I don't know, I might consider surgery.

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I am lucky to say I do not have lose skin. If I lost over a 100 pounds and needed to have surgery then I would ask for help to do that. You never know unless you ask. Best wishes, Linda from bean town

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I am not sure if I would or not. I can't afford it, am on disability, will never be able to afford it so it is mute to even think about it.

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I've gone back and forth with whether or not I'd consider surgery for the loose skin if I could afford it. Considering I've lost over 100 pounds,it's not too bad. I suspect if I keep working at losing body fat and toning, it will get better over time, too, although I don't expect to ever be able to pull off wearing a bikini and looking really good. I've come to the conclusion that surgery is not for me, at least not at this stage. I have a friend who was (and still is) extremely overweight, and she had to have surgery to remove her 'belly flap' because of infection setting in that area. That was a nasty time for her; took forever for the wound to heal and her to get her life back to some semblance of normalcy.

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If I could afford it....would definitely have surgery to remove loose skin from stomach, hips and thighs.

While surgery carries risks, it certainly doesn't compare to the risks when I was more than 100 lbs overweight and yet that didn't register or I would have lost it sooner.

Every day I am on the verge of making slight changes that would make all the difference in my life.

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I'm with most of you...considered it, but nope...no knife for me thank you!

It's a challenge not to let it drag my self-esteem down at times, but I just don't think the risks are worth it.

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I agree, Lauren. There is no honor in either having or not having skin removal surgery. It is a legitimate option to be considered, and a very personal one at that. It doesn't matter what others have or haven't done. Talking with your doctor and with the people who truly love you can help make a decision that in the end is yours alone to make.

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Fortunately (or unfortunately) it seems all my loose skin is on my neck. It's not bad, except in photos (what IS it about photos that adds about 15 chins?). If I stay behind the camera, I don't have to look at it. Also, the angle of the photograph can add or subtract pounds.

I work with individuals with a lot of abdominal skin folds, and they are, unfortunately, prone to yeast or other infections in those folds. They (and we) are told to keep the folds clean and dry to help prevent rashes (but that doesn't always help, and I'm sure everyone here already stays clean and dry). Their doctors often prescribe a medicated cream (we get prescriptions, but I'm sure you can get them over the counter, also) to help with rash flare-ups.

I don't take surgery, elective or otherwise, lightly. As had been pointed out, there are many potential complications. However, I wouldn't discourage someone from getting surgery if their skin folds (or anything else) was making them so unhappy it was affecting their quality of life (and the amount of folds that I might not even notice might really bother someone else). And, ultimately, I think it should be the individual's decision, not his/her parents or siblings or partner, and that s/he should be able to make an informed decision.

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It all depends on the loose skin. I have a friend who lost about 200 pounds, and she had a large fold of abdominal skin that hung in a flap, and sweat kept it raw, smelly and yeasty. She had that flap surgically removed, about 20 pounds of skin. She bears a fairly heroic scar, but doesn't have to worry about rash and odor anymore. This is another situation where a doctor's input would be helpful. Her insurance didn't pay for it because it wasn't dangerous, but she is still very glad she did it.

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I have to agree. I'll live with the loose skin for the rest of my life, as I don't want the expense or pain it would entail to get it off surgically. I'm happy where I am, thank you. And if that means I don't wear a bikini swim suit, that's fine by me.

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I have that I agree. I would like to look perfect after all that hard work, but at 55 years old I don't think it's worth it. I'm healthy now and my body doesn't hurt like it used to. I'm happy and healthy and I plan to live a long life. emoticon

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I've found my own loose skin more bothersome than I'd like to admit, but less bothersome than I might have expected.

Given how much I've lost I guess I'm pretty lucky not to have yeast or infection issues. For me personally it seems to be only an issue of aesthetics.

I'm personally not a fan of elective surgery (for anything) as an option for me because of the cost, risk of infection, time spent in recovery, and possible negative long-term effects. Having fortunately managed to remove the weight without surgery, I'm not eager to go under the knife, to remove the skin now. That's just for me and I totally respect everyone's right to make his or her own decision about it.

I agree with Tom Venuto's assertion that when it's ONLY loose skin, it doesn't hang the way skin does when there is still fat attached to it. It's more like tissue and less like a saggy wet blanket. So I suspect body composition really can help a lot (getting the % body fat to a low but sustainable level). My own loose skin isn't as bad as I would have expected and I think the weight lifting and working on lowering % body fat has helped.

Having said that, the extra skin still there, and while it doesn't interfere with any of my activities, it isn't what people expect to see when I'm in a swimsuit, based on what I look like with my clothes on. As a single woman it's been kind of awkward getting intimate.

Fortunately I'm with someone now who doesn't care about it and values me for who I am. But I've been with other, shallower people who did make an issue about it, and that hurt.

One of the more powerful motivators for me to get the weight off and eat right and work out has been to want to feel attractive. And it was a hard blow to know that no matter how well I eat or how much body fat I lose, I'll still have these reminders of how much I used to weigh. And that some people will judge me for it.

In the end I try to develop a sense of perspective about it. After all, if a guy with no arms and no legs can inspire hundreds of thousands of people and have a family, what am I complaining about, with a little extra skin on my perfectly functional body?
(I'm thinking of Nick Vujicic www.lifewithoutlimbs.org )

How many women in their mid 40s have taken up extreme sports and done this well at it? I have accomplished a lot with this body in a relatively short amount of time, and for what it is, it looks pretty good, at least with clothes on.

And anyone who doesn't want to be with me because of the skin doesn't deserve my time, in the first place.

At least that's what I tell myself, to counter the negative thoughts that creep in when I see my legs while doing a plank, etc. Everyone has something. And this isn't about being perfect. It's about being the strongest, wisest, most fulfilled me I can be. Wrinkles and all.

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would love feed back on this subject as i have a problem with yeast infections under the excess skin and would welcome any suggestions.

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MAGGIEROSEBOWL wrote a post today that made me think - there are a bunch of us out here who have lost 100+ or even half of ourselves who are living with loose skin.

While there seem to be plenty of resources about body acceptance with regard to fat, and many resources online about how to cut the skin off, I have yet to see any resources or collections of thoughts about how people come to accept the loose skin that accompanies a very large weight loss. Even those who choose surgery will still have some areas left over, and scars.

After all the work of losing the weight, how do we come to terms with the fact we won't ever look like Barbie? Or even someone with a 'normal' weight history? How do we cope with those feelings?

I've gathered what I could find in the team's Big Page of Links
tinyurl.com/maintenance-links , under the section titled "Information about loose skin."

There are several interesting resources in there, besides links to MAGGIEROSEBOWL's post, and one by BOOKWORM27S. Tom Venuto has some insights about body composition and how time can allow skin to shrink back on its own, to some extent. And there is a link to a thread over at 3 Fat Chicks where maintainers have posted photos, stats, and comments about their own skin-related issues, thoughts, and feelings.

If you know of any other resources or team blog posts about this issue, please let me know so I can add them!

I'd like to open up a place where we can discuss this, so that is the purpose of this thread. I'll post my own thoughts in a fresh window.

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