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7/13/13 2:25 P

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Eating is complicated...isn't it!

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6/27/13 12:08 A

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Nell,
my doctor did not think it necessary to test daily. I was at HA1c of 5.9 about 9 months ago (normal range is up to 5.6, pre-diabetic is 5.7-6.3, diabetic is 6.4 and up for those not familiar with this) and that was after being low-carb for several months already. I will never know but I had probably been in or almost in the diabetic range before eliminating sugar and grains. Since then I've been able to drop the HA1c down to 5.6 with carbs around 50 grams/day.
I agree that restaurant food is very tricky. We usually have hamburgers without buns and without ketchup, or other meat and veggie dishes only but also eat out fairly rarely with the exception of our food co-op restaurant that has an outstanding salad bar and quite a few dishes that are low-carb/paleo as well. The most amazing improvement for me was the drop in body fat while eating about the same amount of food as before.
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6/26/13 12:59 P

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Birgit, are you testing blood sugar yet? It is quite an eye opener when you start doing that. My husband had to start testing when he was first diagnosed with diabetes (even though he had known he was susceptible because his father had been diabetic). At first he tested, but didn't like seeing that he shouldn't be eating things he wanted to eat. After the second stroke and the broken ankle that never healed, he started testing religiously. Whenever we eat out, no matter how carefully he orders, all restaurant food spikes his blood sugar. That just tells you what must be in that food. Thankfully, we eat out very seldom, just a few times a year.

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6/26/13 12:40 P

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Skirnir,
It is true that most very healthy diets will cost more money. I also try to eat organic and tha costs much more, too. We all need to just do the best we can. I know that if did not eat the way I do I would have to spend money on medication and doctor's visits instead.
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6/26/13 12:37 P

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Nell,
you are right that nuts contain some carbs too, but small quantities are very filling, and some nuts have more carbs than others (cashews higher, macadamia nuts and almonds lower), but all have far less than grains or beans.
With fruit I stay with berries mostly and eat smaller apples, citrus fruit and limit to 1-2 servings/day.
For veggies you are right that carrots and peppers can be a little higher in sugar, a good reason for me to stay with lots of leafy greens of many kinds, green beans, mushrooms, sea vegetables, onions, garlic etc.
As far as dairy full-fat dairy, cream and butter have the least carbs, full-fat yogurt has very little as the bacteria have eaten most of the lactose, even though it is listed as sugar on the label.
For diabetics eating very low-carb may still not be enough but it will definitely reduce the amount of meds they need.
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6/26/13 12:02 P

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Houndlover, I just read your blog about what you eat. Nuts may be full of fat but they also have carb. All dairy products have lactose in abundance, and fruits (dried, fresh or juiced) are carb heavy. Those are all things my diabetic hubby has to either avoid or seriously limit. Just a few dried fruits or even one apple or orange shoot his blood sugar up. Dairy, same thing, he has to limit milk and yogurt. He can have a few nuts but no more. Even one red bell pepper or a carrot jumps his sugar. And this is while he is taking double doses of three kinds of diabetes meds.

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6/26/13 11:57 A

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Just googled the person you mentioned and oh my gosh, he does eat high fat. That is strange. I mean to raise ones calories and still loose weight? But then I would, I would be in the bathroom with diarrhia all day if I ate that way. My stomach really can't take much fat at all, so I tend to eat high carb, low fat, low protein. His diet also sounds rather expensive, all those heavy creams, large servings of meat, etc. YOuch.

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6/26/13 11:47 A

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Read the blog, but that all looks quite low fat. None of that would add up to that much fat. Cholesterol perhaps with the 4 egg per person breakfast, ie larger meals than I eat, but yes, that would keep me full longer than my smaller meals with a number of snacks. Still don't get how one even can eat a 75% fat diet.

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6/25/13 8:33 P

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Maree,
here is a blog post I did earlier this spring about what I eat, the percentages were a little more moderate but you get the idea.
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_jo
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If you take a look at Peter Attia's "About Me" section you can see what he typically eats for similar percentages.
Nell, you are right, the changes are not just about replacing one kind of oil with another. My point was more that it is a very good idea to replace carbs with fat to lose weight or rather body fat which is what most of us want. I think butter (from pasture-fed animals) and olive oil are both great options for eating but I would be careful about heating olive oil too much.
Birgit

Edited by: HOUNDLOVER1 at: 6/25/2013 (20:38)
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6/25/13 4:46 P

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I use every little oil or fat in cooking. I cook mostly in water. I may have a little oil in a salad dressing. I have to little fat usually. Linda from bean town

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6/25/13 1:48 P

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Houndlover, I am very intrigued by the article you posted and have subscribed to the newsletters. I am curious, though, what does a diet made up of 5% carb, 20% protein and 75% fat look like? I had success with Dukan diet 2yrs ago (low carb, high protein); I'm amazed at all the carbs veggies have! It's difficult to maintain my weight loss though, so I think nutrition needs to be tweaked somehow.

Sorry I'm off topic of bad cooking oils vs. good cooking oils.

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6/25/13 1:15 P

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I no longer use Canola, Soy,veg oil.
I use only coconut oil, coconut butter, real butter from our wonderful cheese store, olive oil, grape seed oil. Can't afford some others I would like to try.
Science aside, it just plain tastes better and doesn't help fund Monsanto. (that I know of)

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6/25/13 12:22 P

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Houndlover, you made a lot more changes than just the source of your oils. If you kept your diet exactly the same, but changed your 3 teaspoons of fat per day from butter to olive oil, there wouldn't be a weight loss. Changing from 50/20/30 to 5/20/75, is a major change even if total calories are the same. I saw a lecture on YouTube (for the life of me I can't remember who it was), who is a nutritional biologist. He said that people have come to think that they can consume all the olive oil they want and still lose weight. If you are eating 5000 calories a day, most of it from olive oil, you will gain weight. Your percentages indicate that you are keeping track of the total, just rearranging the components to suit your body. Which is what we all need to do.

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6/25/13 12:21 P

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75% fat? Wow, that is even possible? Almost no one food is that high in fat, how do you made a diet that high in fat? (Yes, this comes from someone whose body can't seem to digest fat and anytime I eat high fat, my IBS acts up.)

3/31/12 Trailbreaker half marathon 13.1 miles in 3 hours 13 minutes
4/20/13 Neighborhood Watch 5K 39:17.6
10/5/13 5K Grace Pet Fest 38:47.6
12/1/13 Secret City Half Marathon around 3 hours and 4 minutes
4/19/14 Butterflies for Hope 5K for Lupus 39:23.8 (I hurt my back a few days before, and though it was my first official 5K with some jogging, my back hurt, so was very slow.)


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6/25/13 11:21 A

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Nell,
the reason I disagree is that if you eat a diet high in healthy fats you will be eating less calories in carbohydrates. For the half of the population that is carbohydrate-intolerant to some degree and whose body will produce too much insulin in response to high carb levels eating more fat is the perfect ticket to weight loss. The lower my insulin levels are the easier it is for my body to burn fat (from either diet or body stores). The only way for me to go from 28% body fat to current 20% body fat was to switch my macronutrients from 50% carbs, 20% protein, 30% fat to 5% carbs, 20% protein, 75% fat. It has never been easier to maintain.
Again, for some people it may not make as much difference where calories come from, but for many of us even mild insulin resistance will make fat a life saver.
Here is an article that explains the science behind it:
eatingacademy.com/nutrition/do-calor
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6/25/13 11:03 A

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Fat is fat in terms of calories, regardless of the source. 120 calories for oil, lard or bacon fat, 100 calories for butter. Alternate fats may be better in terms of heart health, but makes no difference in weight loss.

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6/25/13 10:54 A

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I can just say that I would not touch any cooking oils (anything that is liquid at room temperature) at all. I use coconut oil, butter, bacon grease and lard as these are much more heat stable. Anything else will go rancid very quickly even at room temperature and place a burden on my thyroid I don't need.
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Hi everyone,

I just had a request come in from FIRST Magazine for Women. Here is what they are looking for:

TOPIC: a woman who traded "bad" cooking oils for healthier oils such as safflower oil, coconut oil or rice bran and believes the swap played a role in her dramatic weight loss.

This is an odd one, in that there may not be many who feel that cooking oils made the biggest difference in weight loss success, but I wanted to be sure everyone is aware of the opportunity. If you feel that a switch like this has played somewhat of a role (even if it is along with other factors) in your weight loss success, please send me a private message (SPTERRIV) with a brief description.

Thanks and have a great day!

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