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4/19/13 8:53 P

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I think you can do it! I know you have done great so far and I have faith in you. My weight is going down still. Best wishes, Linda from bean town

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4/18/13 11:31 A

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So I'm in a transition again. I'm trying to wean my 2 year old. I'm also training for a long bike ride. As we try to make sure he eats enough that he doesn't have to nurse, I've been dialing back my calories. But then I'll do these 300 calorie workouts and I wind up pretty hungry sometimes. So I guess I'll just hang in there. My weight is still stable. I think I will just average my calorie estimate and eat that each day, then have a recovery snack after any legit workout. I'm not trying to lose weight or even burn fat, I'm trying to build endurance and, as always, muscle.

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4/15/13 8:09 P

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I like exercising because health is about more than just weight. As a nurse, I've known plenty of thin people with hypertension and/or high cholesterol.

That said, when I was a kid growing up on the farm, most of my female relatives didn't "exercise" and yet were skinny as rails because their BMR was so high from work. If I had my druthers, I'd get all my exercise from household chores. Living in the city and only having to do what amounts to 'light housework,' however, I find taking long walks or doing some strength training really helps me feel better physically and gives me a better attitude.

Just addressing Nell's comment about losing and maintaining without ever exercising.

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4/13/13 12:23 P

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I like how my activity tracker shows me how much I am or am not doing. Some days I get in a few miles just doing what I would otherwise do, and some days, not so much. And since I know it's all being tracked, I don't get upset when I forgot something and have to go back downstairs. I think that just as eating can be disinhibited, the tendency to move around can too. Except with movement, we want to get disinhibited. Inhibition of motion is probably an important part of the body's strategies for conserving energy to survive the winter. But that's just me being wildly speculative.

I guess there probably is literature I can look up about NEAT.

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4/10/13 7:47 P

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I'd like to attain that level of control, Nell. I have always liked the idea of making exercise count . . . why not use all that energy and activity to do something purposeful or fun. Paint the living room, clean the ceiling fixtures, garden, mow--with a push mower, etc., they all give back twice-in health benefits and a mission accomplished. Lift, reach, stretch, bend, walk, and repeat. I think at this juncture though, I NEED a little bit of structured 'organized' exercise to supplement and get me up to a better fitness level and work on some problem areas. I also don't think it is necessity to winning in the exercise/health world unless your an athlete. Many people do go all out and become professionals (from athletes and trainers to dieticians) because it is a good way to keep themselves accountable and healthy for the long haul.


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Update! NO MORE Wiggle room on my weight! Still figuring out how to keep balance and stay in charge. Staying active but could step it up again.

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4/10/13 7:45 A

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I didn't formally exercise when I was losing. I had little kids,though. I have been at goal for 42 years without formal exercise. I do walk everywhere, though, and make sure that every action I make (hauling, stairs, cleaning) is as useful as possible.

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4/9/13 10:36 P

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I've definitely become a fan of daily weighing. I'm not a person who can judge my weight by how my clothes feel. I really admire people who can do that. To me, everything feels "tight." Only the number on the scale keeps me on track.

I also enjoy following the research on these topics. It's interesting to see, statistically, what has worked for people. I've seen that statistic about successful maintainers getting an hour a day of exercise, and I thought, "Who are these people??" LOL Even during weight loss, I haven't exercised for an hour a day.

It's exciting to approach maintenance and hear all the tips about what works for different people. Thanks to everyone for sharing their stories.

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4/7/13 7:45 P

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I am entering my 5th month of maintenance so I am still in the mode of tracking.
For me, for now, I weigh in everyday and I count calories everyday. I am trying to estimate mentally my food intake throughout the day so, one day, that is all the calculating I have to do.
I have been here before and every time I have weight loss success I go 'off' the plan and fall back to my old ways by allowing myself to become less vigil and revert to old impulse eating habits.

This trip through weight loss land, I determined that when I got to my goal that I would have to do things differently. Currently, it means just to keep doing what I have been doing this last 18 months. Eating healthy, counting calories, exercise and monitoring daily. I want to live without being a slave to food or exercise, so I am working on it becoming a natural, sustainable way of life. I am obsessive compulsive with some foods or feeding situations and have realized that it is an issue I must deal with in order to control it and it not control me. In the past have had to deal with major stress as well--for me, I gained and cried and got something else to eat. But, I have seen it work the other way for many too. The old saying, "Everything in moderation" is a wise observation and One-Day-At-a-Time is a very good idea. Oh, and another one, 'What method works for one may not work for others."

Update! NO MORE Wiggle room on my weight! Still figuring out how to keep balance and stay in charge. Staying active but could step it up again.

SW: 275-276 Ht. 5'6"
GW: 135 (goal range: 130-140)
CW: WAS 124.7 NOW: 143.5
My focus is health AND fitness! And LOSING 10 lbs. again!
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4/6/13 10:03 P

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Stress affects different people in different ways. When my husband had his strokes, then broke his ankle which became osteomyelitis after surgery, and I had to give him home IVs and change dressings 5 times a day, it was 6 months of day to day working so hard and worrying so much I could barely breathe. I had to lift a man 100 pounds more than me up and down the stairs, in and out of the bathroom. I had to haul him and his wheelchair in and out of the car going to doctor after doctor. I was up every hour on the hour for months. And my weight fell off until my husband's doctor started worrying about ME because the stress was affecting me so badly. I was spending so much time feeding him his 6 small meals a day that I forgot to eat. I don't recommend that level of stress as a weight loss technique, but that is what severe stress does to me. We are all handle stress differently.

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4/6/13 9:07 P

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Hi All, You did not get it! Stress can and will make you fat. Stress can kill you. If you are stressed you will eat more and sleep less. This is real! It is proven that to little sleep will keep you over weight. I was stressed at work and I have a thyroid problem that was not detected until last year. I was let go from work and started losing weight. I really lost a lot after taking my thyroid medication last year. Best wishes, Linda from bean town

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4/5/13 9:20 P

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Aw, you guys are great.

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4/5/13 9:11 P

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No need to apologize, Vtricia.

But for what it's worth and to paraphrase Jean Nidetch (founder of WW) it wasn't the age, injury or job stress that put on the weight; it was eating over it. In her book she tells of the woman at a meeting who told her that her grandchildren made her fat. Jean told her that could only happen if she ate them.

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Not necessary. You give us information with links if we want to look further. Then it's up to us to interpret and apply according to how it fits with our individual personalities and lifestyle. I for one appreciate all you do to help us with interesting material designed to promote healthy discussion around the issues we all deal with. emoticon

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Boy, I need to apologize. I really got into "I'm right" mode with that last post of mine. I really need to watch that.

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For me daily weighing daily keeps me on top of things. When I am struggling I want to stop weighing and that's not a good sign. Also, keeping close track of everything is important for me. And when I exercise daily 45-60 minutes I do better. When I struggle things start to fall apart in these areas.
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I didn't have a scale from 2003 to 2010, and for a lot of that I fit into my size 16 clothes. But age, injury and some stressful jobs led to me my high weight. I was working at a job where we wore scrubs, so that didn't help either.

And in the last few years I've seen people close to me reach goal and then regain, so that drives some of my fanaticism about the research. 5% success (which is actually more like 20%) can become 50% with adequate learning and support.

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The only reason I weigh myself weekly is I am doing the 5% Challenge. I am on a maintenance team, but you still have to weigh in. There are monthly challenges on other teams where you have to weigh in too. Sometimes I take part in those sometimes I don't.

I basically go by measurements and the feel of how my clothes fit.

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I think the One Day at a Time philosophy has a lot going for it in maintenance, whether it's tracking or not, exercise or mindful eating. For me, I have to have something sustainable and have moved from an emphasis on weight loss to remaining as fit and healthy as I can as I age. It's the old adage of look after the pennies and the pounds will look after themselves transferred from money to health and well-being.

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4/4/13 2:25 P

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Nell, thanks for that. I practice one day at a time myself and am someone who doesn't find maintenance harder than losing (but I am a nursing mother, so I will soon find out what happens with weaning). But in theory I will have more time for fitness then too! I definitely don't do an hour a day. But I go for more intensity and strength training.


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4/4/13 1:56 P

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I think it helps me to weigh in weekly and know where I am. I am go up or down on the scale. I have to plan a weekly meun and activities. Best wishes on more successes. Linda from bean town

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When I was losing weight I was focused on each and every thing I did and ate because I had a specific goal ahead of me. Somewhere during that time I learned to focus on One Day At A Time, and THAT is what has kept my weight under control for 42 years. We are supposed to keep our Eye On The Prize, which as a goal weight getting slowly ever closer was exciting. But staying the same? Not as exciting a prize, until it slips away, then once again it becomes gold. One Day I can do and enjoy. That way I can be a blazing success 365 times a year.

I read that article, and as someone who has been at goal a long time and through many life changes, it makes maintaining sound like too much fussing, the one thing I had wanted to reach goal to get away from. But rather than fuss, I pay attention One Day At A Time, any fussing being directly related to my morning weight. I want to be free of the obsession (I blogged about that), and keeping track of calories, nutritional components of food, and calories expended by activity are too obsessive for me. I plan every meal because I love it; I fit it into my exchange plan and just go about the life I lost the weight to have.

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4/4/13 10:47 A

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So true! I need to keep that top of mind and not let my business and emotions get the best of me. It's when I let that happen that I see the tracking and fitness go out the window and the weight creeps back on.


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I can see how daily weigh-ins can keep you on top of things. It's certainly true in my case. When I stop checking myself I start putting weight on. Just a little at a time but then if an emotional crisis hits - the weight zooms.



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One thing we talk a lot about here is how maintenance is different from losing. (Sometimes we even say its harder, but different for sure.) But what if you're working on the last few pounds still? Or you're slipping from your goal range? I believe the predictors of maintenance are still the best way to manage your weight.

When I say predictors of maintenance, I mean the habits that are, for maintenance, like fitness and nutrition are for weight loss. The National Weight Control Registry defines them as:

1. Exercise the equivalent to an hour walking daily. (2545 cal/week for average woman)

2. Eat breakfast everyday

3. Weigh yourself regularly. This is an area where maintenance research is very different from weight loss experts. In studies, the more often you weigh, the less you regain as you build self-monitoring skills.

4. Watch less TV, 6-10 hours a week instead of 28 hours national average.

Here's a link, they're at the bottom.

www.nwcr.ws/Research/default.htm

Nutrition is very important in the findings but this list takes the most prevalent behaviors, whereas nutrition was a mix of tracking calories, counting fat grams or avoiding types of food. It becomes more about behavior, which they call Cognitive Restraint, than food composition.


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