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1/25/13 4:25 P

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Just an update to tell people how things are working out. I read the link to the lower carb guy and decided to go with 100-150 carbs like the american diabetes site said and 1400-1600 calories, at which level I have maintained a weight 8 pounds higher for 5 years. I am not going to be fanatical about this, if I eat out I will eat what I want. I have gotten in a little walking but it has been unseasonably cold and I still am attending Dr appts and such with my parents. I am finding I feel tons better eating more but really don't have the appetite for as much as Sp thinks I should be eating. One thing I have noticed as a positive is that when I go over slightly(10% maybe) on my fat according to sp, I am so much warmer at night, which I have read is a sign of improved metabolism rate. I was having trouble with waking just before dawn, chilled to the bone. Weight is still going down by tiny increments. Interesting experiment.

Becky, wife to Mr Moo(Michael), mommy to Brianne, Chelsea, Audra Fiona and Bitty, grandma to Kiara, Oliver and Nova.
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1/12/13 8:23 A

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I think you should try following your doctor's recommendation and don't eat less than 1500 calories per day - try it for a week or two and see what happens. Being weak and faint is not a good thing at all.

I suspect everyone has a different optimal macronutrient ratio, and it can change for us through time, as well.

Personally right now I feel pretty good when it's about 33% fats, 33% carbs, 33% protein.

I find protein keeps me going longer than carbs, and getting enough fats is important for keeping my hair shiny and feeling generally ok.

Also, meal timing is important for me, and I try to keep some protein bars around for emergencies in case I start to get hungry in a situation where I wouldn't have access to "normal" food. Most normal days I eat 5 times: breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner and I usually get some protein in every meal or mini-meal.

For me to consider a protein bar worth the calories, I look at the label. The # calories shouldn't be much more than 10x the # g of protein. So in a 200 calorie protein bar I'm looking for roughly 20 g of protein. A lot of "protein bars" are basically candy bars, and that's the quick test I use to figure out whether I want to buy them.

One brand that passes that test and is available just about anywhere is the Pure Protein brand - I can find them in pharmacies and grocery stores. Most of the rest of the ones I eat need to be ordered online.

Keep trying things until you find out what makes you feel good...

And keep us posted!

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1/11/13 9:42 P

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Ha,ha, Nell I'd go nuts the first day if I had to measure and weigh all ingredients. I guess we are all different. emoticon

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1/11/13 7:27 P

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I have been through terrible stress in the last couple of years, too. I had to nurse my diabetic hubby through two strokes and a broken leg, which involved two surgeries and a major bone infection. My mother started to suffer from dementia and I had to move her, sell her condo, go through all the medical and legal intervention needed for her. During that time I had surgery of my own twice. Stress causes me to lose weight, but primarily because when under stress I kept forgetting to eat, with weakness being the only way I remembered. My weight went down both times. My weight is very low right now, yet I don't worry about it at all. I eat according to a plan, by the clock so I don't forget. I don't worry about exercise: carrying boxes and furniture and moving a 200 pound person in and out of the bathroom is plenty of work. I eat by the old diabetic exchange plan, which automatically means I am eating correctly, without worrying about calories or carbs or protein or any other nutrient, the exchanges do it for me. If I had to count anything I'd go nuts. I weigh and measure all ingredients going into each meal which I prepare in my own kitchen. No snack foods, no desserts, no packaged foods, no restaurants. I do it for my diabetic hubby and myself. I am healthy as long as I don't lose any more weight. If I find myself shaking a little, I'll have a cup of coffee with milk in it. Fretting is counterproductive. If your husband's endocrinologist is over 40 he remembers exchanges. My son is a registered dietician, and they only started recommending counting carbs because most people don't cook anymore, and need to read nutrition info off packages. If you eat the old fashioned way, there aren't any packages to read off of. Sounds hard, but I find it much easier.

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1/11/13 5:15 P

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I don't think it is acceptable to be weak like that. It takes some time to recover from stress and illness. I wonder what type of carbs you are eating. My husband has been an insulin-dependant diabetic for 40 years and does best with complex carbohydrates which release their energy more slowly than processed types. Your body needs nourishment to recover and will try to put on weight if it feels it's being starved of nutrients. Perhaps examine the nutritional tracker to see what it says about your intake of essential foods? This might be more significant for your health than calorie totals in your circumstances. Hope you feel better and more in control soon. emoticon

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1/11/13 5:11 P

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Just my opinion based largely on my own experience. Lowering carbs even without intentionally lowering calories will lead to weight loss. Even lowering carbs to about half of what most people eat on the SAD diet is enough for some weight loss.
You'll find lots of info on Mark Sisson's blog about that and he recommends a diet somewhere between 50-150 grams of carbs/day, depending on goals.
I know if you lower carbs under 50 grams/day (ketosis) that you will not have low blood sugar episodes and not get hungry more than 2-3 times/day.
I would not lower calories under 1500 calories/day for most people. At least on low-carb it's not necessary. Many people eat over 2000 calories/day on low-carb, more if they exercise a lot.

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1/11/13 4:58 P

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I maintained my weight at around 162-163 from 2008-2011 At the end of that year I had a hysterectomy and my weight maintained at 166-167 for most of 2012. Then in November I decided to eat like a diabetic and limit my carbs to no more than 60 per meal, 15 per snack(husband is diabetic and this had to do with him, and what he was eating). At the same time my elderly parents had health crises and were hospitalized, and got sick with a flu-like virus for 3 weeks. I was still eating but not recording and exercise was not an option between coughing violently and dr and hospital visits. My weight leveled at 159-160. I started recording my food again this week but I am kind of scared to eat much for fear of gaining any weight. I have been aiming for 1100-1300 calories to be safe although sometimes circumstances make me eat more. On the downside, I now get shaky if a meal is late, when before I got slightly hungry but wasn't feeling like I might faint. My Dr told me never to eat less than 1500 calories or I would get malnourished and cause myself other health issues. So here are my questions:
1) Why did I lose weight? I had previously tried moderate, low and very low calorie diets and not lost an ounce. I had exercised hours per day/week for months and not lost an ounce. Was it the stress? Was it the controlled carbs, which were by no means low compared to what is normal for low-carb?
2) Is it Ok to be eating at a level where you get shaky and faint in 3 hours and need 9-10 hours of sleep instead of 7-8? Am I sacrificing some other measure of health for a number on a scale(a real fear of mine)? I am just getting to the point, cough-wise where I could start exercising again but if I get this shaky not exercising, I doubt the wisdom of it.
3) When I have been so healthy the past few years, is it worth risking that, by eating less than the dr says, to lose enough weight to meet the somewhat arbitrary (and recently questioned by studies)BMI standard? Part of me is saying no and part of me is saying anything to be officially acceptable.

Becky, wife to Mr Moo(Michael), mommy to Brianne, Chelsea, Audra Fiona and Bitty, grandma to Kiara, Oliver and Nova.
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