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3/1/11 2:58 P

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I'll just add my experience to the awesome answers you already have. I struggled for five years to have a baby. I went through many rounds of clomid and one in vitro fertilization. I was with an ART (assisted reproductive technology) practice. It was not fun. After about a year I went to an AWESOME ob/gyn. She had been through a similar experience. She immediately put me on metformin, and said weight loss would help. Now, she was awesome, in part because she was NOT saying you have a ton of weight to lose. Get busy. Quite the opposite, she said even a 10% weight loss can help. After that visit I put myself on a low carb eating plan, and started walking a mile a day. Less than a year later I was pregnant. We're all different, so I'm not trying to give you a false sense of hope, but I would say, non 100lbs is not necessarily necessary! Best Wishes!

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2/25/11 9:12 P

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Thanks ROFOMOM,

I can use all the encouragement and support I can get. I love that for the first time in a long time, I finally feel like loosing weight is possible. In the past I would try and keep positive, but never seemed to be able to loose the weight and would get frustrated. It didn't help that I am an emotional eater, but going down this journey and getting diagnosed and then seeing an endo and being put on the metformin has been a blessing. I now actually believe this may be possible which is half battle! Definitely will read your blog. Still struggle some here and there but much more positive and optimistic. :)

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2/22/11 3:21 P

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Hi, life2short!
I am SO HAPPY to hear that you are having a positive Metformin experience. For me, it has been like a miracle "cure" in a sense. I take it every day according the the instructions and I have never felt better in my ENTIRE LIFE. You can read more about it on my blog (link below) if you want - under "my health journey". You can totally do it! Just keep taking your metformin, eating right and working out and you will be a different person soon!


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2/17/11 7:55 P

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I wanted to provide you with a quick update on where I am at with things. You all were so great and had wonderful ideas and support. I have been working with a new DR whom is GREAT!! She doesn't make me feel like this horrible person for not being able to lose the weight quickly and has confirmed that I do have PCOS. Instead of recommending surgery, which she thought was way too soon to even consider, she wanted me to go on metformin. She also referred me to an endocrinologist that she would like to work closely with to manage the metformin. I have been on the metformin for 2 months now and am at the full dosage my endo wanted me to be at. All I have to say is I did not realize how out of whack my sugar levels were until getting put on this. I feel so much better in general and have started to have an easier time losing weight too. I am thankful for your support and I am so going to need it over the next 5-6 months. My work has been getting very chaotic and stressful. It is a daily battle to stay on track right now. My work laid 4 people off, froze our personal time, took away two floating holidays, still giving us one of our holidays but we have it off without pay, not contributing to my pension this year, and to top it all off giving us a 5% salary cut. *gasp* On top of which I am still doing grad school, which takes up a lot of time (getting A's :) which is great feeling). Anyway, I am setting a goal for myself get on this site no less than 4 times a week and then plan to build up to every night taking some time because I think it will help to be checking in here.

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8/2/10 8:39 P

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I just want to thank you all. This is truly what I needed. A place where there are others who understand but also can talk with some and vent my frustrations without judgement!

TRYINAGAIN3: It sure is a crazy goal. I am curious to see what this other doc will have to say. I know I need to lose weight and not going to deny that but omg 100lbs! I just keep reminding myself to focus on the day to day and reaching my smaller goals. Less overwhelming that way!!

QUELEENDAH: Yup that is what she told me. Between being told I needed to lose 100lbs and her snide remarks I was through. I am done talking to this woman. Two times I have talked to her and not once has she approached things in a nice manner. She can also take the gastric bypass and shove it. No offense to those who chose to go this route but for me I just dont feel its right and she is pushing the idea.

ENTICINGRAIN: Oh thank you for putting what that means. I was wondering myself when I read ZanaMom1 post. I am going to talk with my doctor about finding an endocrinologist to see. Thank you so much for the information! I have been doing research and seeing part of why I havent been able to lose weight. My hubby and I are working a lot of the carbs out of our regular meals.

KLP92609: Sounds like we definitely are going through almost the same thing. This doctor so definitely does not seem to want to listen which is so frustrating. I may not be able to peel away the pounds but I can definitely decrease and get ride of stressors and frustrations I dont need! Who knows maybe in the next year we will both achieve our goal and maybe conceive or be well on our way!


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8/1/10 8:52 P

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Good thing you went to the Endocrinologist. Too bad you did not go to one when you were diagnosed with PCOS you might have stalled or prevented you from developing type 2 diabetes. Take good care and eat well.

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8/1/10 2:38 P

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Wow...your story sounds a lot like mine.I just turned 31. My OBGYN told me not to even THINK about TTC until I lost 100lbs...even then, she said she wants me below 199. (I weighed 300 when she told me this) That was in October 2009, right after my wedding. She didn't want to go the metformin route, even though she diagnosed me with PCOS and knew I had a family history of Type 2 diabetes.

I have struggled with weight my whole life, but no one would listen to me about the metformin until a month ago when I was diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. My internist started me on 500mg twice a day, then last week my endorinologist bumped it up to 1000mg twice a day. Since I've started the metformin, I've lost 5lbs. So I'm thinking there is hope for me yet.

Defiitely get 2nd an even 3rd opinions. This doc kind of sounds like she doesn't want to listen, which is the worst kind of doc to deal with.

Best of luck!!

"If you can't love yourself, how in the hell are you gonna love somebody else?" ~ RuPaul


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7/31/10 3:36 P

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Congratulations on your weight loss.
Don't worry about long posts.

I am thinking that RE stands for Reproductive Endocrinologist.

PCOS is all about Insulin Resistance.....read up on Insulin resistance it is why we can't loose weight and KEEP it off without enormous energy.

It wears you down slowly and is very disheartening so I am glad we an all come here and talk about it and encourage each other.

Everyone with PCOS is a very high risk for type two diabetes unless you eat healthy and get treatment for it.

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7/29/10 11:13 A

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100 lbs??? Seriously? I would have left in tears!

and congrats on what you have lost, that is really encouraging!

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7/29/10 10:00 A

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Congrats on your weight loss!!! emoticon I would definitely find a good RE. I love mine...she has always understood what it means to have PCOS and never made me feel bad about my weight. I think they know so much more then a regular OB/GYN. I don't even see my GYN for annuals anymore...I go to my RE for pap smears and all those needs. She keeps me up to date with all I need to know with PCOS...even when I'm not trying to conceive. Good luck!!!

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7/29/10 12:03 A

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Way to go!
100 lbs is a crazy goal when all you want is to get pregnant.
A happy TTC story... My BFF tried to get pregnant for 10 years without help with PCOS. Third treatment cycle of clomid worked! She just had her baby girl in May. She didn't lose ton of weight to do it all she did was get on a drug that would help her ovulate..Something a lot of PCOSers do not do regularly.




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7/28/10 11:31 P

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Sorry for the long post!

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7/28/10 11:23 P

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Thank you all so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences! I most definitely am planning on getting a second opinion. I suspect she will probably verify some if not all of what this woman told me, but I will tell you after today's phone call, I know without a doubt I do not want to continue to see this doctor. She was very insensitive and told me multiple times "you need to get serious about your weight loss" It wouldn't have bothered me if she had just said it once, but she said this to me multiple times and then just assumed that I had made the decision to not try and get pregnant without asking. Arg!!

SELAGRIMM: I agree there are many wrenches in my works right now. Definitely helps to see that you have had some good success in the last four months! I am starting down that path of attempting to make this life style change and hope I can make it a permanent one this time! For me, I know this will sound silly, but I was actually relieved today to find out I have PCOS. I now have at least an explanation for my struggle with things to some degree. I am working on changing my eating habits to a low carb intake. It seems to be helping! I am most definitely not going to have the surgery, not of interest to me.

SMEXYVEN: I will most certainly get a second opinion and I agree. I guess I am learning to be a bit more assertive these days. I didn't like this ladies bedside manner so to speak and then the phone call just confirmed my gut feeling about her. I need to have a doctor that I am comfortable with and trust and I don't trust this woman. Thanks again! *hugS*

ENTICINGRAIN and JOANG13: Thank you so much for your thoughts! You raised an intriguing question regarding seeing an endocrinologist. It got me to thinking about the excessive adrenaline I have in my system as I read up on what kind of doctor that was.

QUELEENDAH: I am in total agreement!

TRYINAGAIN3: Yup you never know how much of a difference it will make. I found out today that she wants me to lose 100lbs. She thinks if I don't, I will definitely end up with diabetes amongst other problems. She is so aggravating! Even if I lose the weight and diagnosing me with PCOS and knowing my family history where both my mother and sister had irregular periods and difficulty conceiving she would like me to try for I think she said 6-12 months without fertility assistance. Ugg. I am just like what, I will be the 35 that you say you would go ahead and work with me as is if I jump through every hoop. Okay I know I am exaggerating slightly. I hope with the next DR I have better luck and at least feel comfortable with her.

Sorry for being so winey..definitely wouldn't mind some cheese with my wine emoticon I do have some good news to report. I weighed in today and found out I lost 6.4lbs! emoticon emoticon The low carb diet seemed to help some. We shall see as things progress! emoticon I will keep you posted as things progress.

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7/28/10 12:06 P

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So true! I was actually at my worst when I weighed the least. I couldn't get diagnosed because so few doctors even consider PCOS if you are thin.

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7/27/10 2:07 A

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Yes! find another doctor. Some doctors do blame everything on weight. Losing weight will likely help but who is he to say how much? I was in your shoes before and had the same problem.. I did lose some weight and did start eating healthier but instead of waiting until I lost the magic number I went back in and tried again with more talking on my part. Told them how much I lost what I was doing to lose it and how much I wanted another child NOW not later. One doctor still tried to give me the wait until speech the others however didn't think waiting would help anything either. While looking for another doctor start a plan and bring in the steps your taking for a healthy pregnancy. I know a lot of non PCOS women that are over weight and got pregnant at the drop of a hat. It's not all just the weight! Even if you were at your normal weight you would still likely have problems TTC. I've never had regular cycles in all my life and I wasn't over weight all my adult life. Our hormones are wacky at any weight! Thank PCOS for yet another challenge and find a doctor that will listen to you :)




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7/26/10 11:47 A

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Well no wonder you were upset, I'd be upset too! That is a ton of information thrown at you, in not the most uplifting way!
If anything, I'd look for a doctor that makes you feel encouraged and motivated.
I wish you luck and hope you find a doctor that can give you more hope.

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7/25/10 9:18 P

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Either a second opinion or a better doctor. AND I would highly recommend seeing an endocrinologist that works with OB/GYN on these types of issues.

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I would get a second opinion. The doctor should not be pushing you toward a surgical weight loss option. These procedures are usually a "last resort." Yes, being at a healthy weight makes conception easier, but, how you attain that healthy weight is something you should have a say in. You ask the doctor for advice, the doctor isn't superior to you. You do not have to obey.

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7/25/10 6:13 P

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Several thoughts on the things you have said.

1. Give very serious thought before having Gastic-bypass surgery. It is not the cure all the doctors would have you believe and it is anything but easy to make the changes in your life it would require to stay healthy.

2. Find an Endocrinologist and let them figure out if you have PCOS and they can offer you some treatment options. I use Metforman and Byetta to treat the insulin resistance of PCOs. I feel 100 times better and I easily lost 70 lbs I was able to get pregnant without any help from drugs.
Unfortunately I had several miscarriages. Now research suggests the miscarriages could have been prevented if I had been given extra progesterone when I found I was pregnant something to do with the PCOS.

3. Do what feels right to you don't let any doctor tell you that you can't or you should or you must. Do research and believe in and trust your own decisions.

4.Lots of women with PCOS choose to not use the drugs available,they are frightened of them but I looked at it this way, if I had any other disease that could make me feel better by using proven drugs I wouldn't think twice about taking them.

I am over weight now only because I became ill and was not able to exercise and I was depressed. Feeling better now and here on Sparks people to get the weight back off. It is difficult to unlearn bad eating habits without help.

Good Luck and don't despair just start working on loosing weight and exercise, get diagnosed, and be kind to yourself.

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7/25/10 2:40 P

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Please get a second opinion. You should always do in important decision making moments of your life. If your gut tells you this visit made you feel stressed and uncomfortable, listen to it and honor it.
Good Doctors understand the importance of second (or as many)opinions.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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7/25/10 1:47 P

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Always get a 2nd opinion, but for the most part being overweight does complicate trying to conceive. Having other medical issues also puts a monkey wrench in it. I have tried on and off for 10 yrs trying to get pregnant, doc put me on fertility pills, tried a few other things with no success. So about 4 months ago I hit my heaviest weight at 270lbs, I stopped making excuses, stopped the blame game and got serious. I started a low carb (doc told me yrs ago to do this I ignored it.) and exercising daily. 62 lbs down and periods are back on track and other PCOS symptoms have gotten better. I bet the next docs appointment he will tell me that it will be easier for me now since I am ovulating regularly now. So the point is get the 2nd opinion, but if they say the same thing as the first...don't wait too long to get serious, if you want a family bad enough....do what it takes to make yourself healthy first that way the baby will have an easier time coming in this world. Also the gastric bypass...tell her to shove that one. Don't let someone force something that serious on you. Exercise and diet will do the trick, you just have to stick with it.

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7/25/10 1:38 P

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Yes I would get a second opinion. It sounds like the dr. is throwing a lot at you!! Good luck!!!

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Hello.
Wow, that's a tough situation to be in. My personal opinion is..yes, get a 2nd or even 3rd opinion...
Marie

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7/25/10 1:10 P

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I am debating on whether to get a second opinion. I am guessing the doctor is probably telling me news I don't want to hear, but thought I would out there and get your thoughts. I am 31 yrs old and will be 32 in October. I am not getting any younger. My hubby and I would like to start our family. Being in Ohio I had to find a new ob/gyn. I went to see my new ob/gyn for my annual exam as well as to discuss my desire to become pregnant. This was truly a horrible experience and it resulted in what I feared. Ultimately, I was told that she would like me to lose weight before trying to become pregnant. She did not define how much yet. DR concern is that it would be a high risk pregnancy. I gave her my medical history with which my mother struggled with pregnancy and had many of the issues I have. I am overweight 270lbs, hypoglycemic, have a fast heart rate (controlled with meds), and may be adding PCOS to my list. She was pretty sure after our initial appointment that I have PCOS but wanted to do some blood work before making this determination. She had begun talking about a gastric bypass, which I really do NOT want to do. To say the least this appointment was very upsetting to me. Losing weight will most likely put me 1-2 years behind. I have thought about getting a second opinion, but thought I would see what others experiences have been.

Please do not misunderstand me as I know I need to lose weight and I do want to. This has been a life long battle for me and I am at my heaviest that I have ever been. I just feel like if I keep waiting it will be too late! I don't want to be 60 years old when my kids are graduating. Sorry for being the drama queen, but it's just how I feel. I want to be able to enjoy my children and then eventually grandchildren.

Anyway, please let me know what your thoughts and experiences have been.

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