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7/24/11 9:59 A

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MIMI315, I've tried Vaniqua and it is extremely expensive, and it didn't work for me either. There's a lot of regulations (the hair has to be so long, you must leave it on for 3 minutes...) And I did all of that I even had my mom help me ( I was 14 at the time) and it still didn't work.

I pretty much shave every day especially my facial hair, but though its frustrating its manageable and I've gotten used to carrying a couple of extra razors on me if I forget to shave before I leave the house.

Smile-it makes you feel better :)


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7/24/11 2:05 A

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when I was young,i had pretty soft peachfuzz on my upper lip and face. it didn't get ugly until my mom tried to change it.

first it was bleach - it burned and itched but it wasn't too bad

then plucking and waxing - painful but doable

then when I was 14 I went in for laser - yeah my hair came back hard, darker and thicker. now I pluck. I don't shave even though everyone thinks I do.

I hate that.

but I pluck.

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7/23/11 12:44 P

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I shave it. I'm already in the shower anyway shaving my legs and I just find it easier and less painful. I don't get it everywhere, but I do notice if I forget to take my hormone than it will get worse.

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7/18/11 5:49 P

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I've been struggling with facial hair for so many years that I can't even remember when it started. I originally used to be able to tweeze the hairs, but I kept growing more and more hair that it took too long and hurt too much to try and get all the hairs. My hair is too thick and noticeable to go any longer than a day without shaving so I can't grow it long enough for waxing either. I also tried laser years ago, but for the price I paid, I did not see good enough results. I also can't afford giving it another chance. I've thought about electrolysis, but I know that's expensive as well, but if the results are good, maybe it's worth it for me. Anyone have really good results with it?

My Dr suggested birth control to help with the acne and facial hair, but years ago when I was actually trying to avoid getting pregnant, I couldn't deal with the side effects I was experiencing and gave up after 4 months. I do not want to go through that again. I've thought about asking for Vaniqa, but I read that it costs over $100 for an oz. Is that true? That seems awfully high for something I'd need to do the rest of my life and that doesn't even stop the hair from growing. Sigh. This is an ongoing battle.

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4/28/11 5:04 P

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Maybe this information is well known but while talking to a friend about her facial hair and hair loss, I asked if she has PCOS and she indicated that she didn't think she did while doing a google search on PCOS and facial hair I found this article which I thought was very useful. I too hated my facial hair, but I discovered laser and had it removed. I love it but am aware that due to PCOS I will always have to go for follow-ups. Imagine reading this article and finding out about about spironolactone. I wished someone had sat me down and told me all of this years before and that I didn't have to live my life in the dark with PCOS and only get information when my thyroid problem was also diagnosed. I hope this information helps someone out there. Note I cannot attest to the accuracy of the information but it seems consistent with other information available.

http://www.hormonehelpny.com/column/pcos
.htm#THE%20FRUSTRATION%20OF%20PCOS

NB he says that he is not sure that laser works for dark skin but from personal experience if you use the coolglide type of laser (ng.Yag.) laser threatment can be effective. I have include below a link to an afican american forum which has a cheat sheet for the types of lasers and thier effectlivenss for dark skin.



http://www.hairremovalforum.com/guideboo
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Hello Everyone. I recently joined Spark--still looking around the site. I am happy about finding this PCOS group. I have felt alone with my PCOS for the last 10 yrs! I too have horrible facial hair. I have to shave or wax everyday :( I hate it. When I was first diagnosed, I did laser removal and it was a miracle! I stll lived at home so was able to save and spend all my money (which was not much) on laser. It was sooo expensive, I had to stop. I feel so embarrassed by the hair and wear a LOT of concealer. My face is so dry. Im not currently on any medications but after reading all the posts here, I have a renewed hope and am going to make a doctors appt tomorrow and get a check up, and ask about metformin and spironolactone. I hope it works! Im tired of hiding my face and tired of not letting my bf touch my face! Glad to be here!

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4/22/11 1:44 P

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I too have to shave. It drives me nuts! It seems as though I'm having to shave more and more these days. I feel like the more I shave, the more hair grows there, and so it's just a never ending saga with me. Grrr...

I have been put on spironolactone several times, but I'm just horrible with taking my medication.

Maybe I'll try again. I am glad to see DHINDS2's post! Gives me a little hope, being a black woman dealing with the hair. I've always wanted to try laser, but had heard it didn't do well at all with dark complextions.

I just ran across this group today, and I saw this thread, and let me tell you I'm at work, and almost about to tear up...not out of sadness, but seeing that other women are dealing with the same things that I deal with...stuff I can't talk to my girlfriends about. I even love reading those of you who have your hubbys helping you out with the problem:)

For a single gal, who feels so UN - female sometimes..there is hope:) Glad to have found the group!

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4/20/11 10:57 A

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I have had a really big problem with facial hair but since I have started laser the hair is significantly finer and now I only go once every three months. This means I have no no scaring or ingrown hair or other problems. I feels so much better and while my husband has never said anything I feels so more "female." I get to wear my face without tons of make up and concealer. For women of dark complexions, yes you can get laser just make sure it is a cool glide laser which works better for dark skin. I am afro caribbean and can attest to the effectiveness.



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4/19/11 9:43 A

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Hey, just wanted to post an update: the Spironolactone is definitely working! I just waxed my face on Sunday and the hair I removed was significantly finer and lighter than I remember from previous sessions.

I'm hoping that after losing weight to a "healthy BMI" and keeping my insulin levels steadier with a permanent low-GI way of eating, my body will re-set to a lower testosterone and higher progesterone level. I'm HOPING that I will be able to wean myself off of all my PCOS meds in 6 months to a year. I know my symptoms have been much worse in the past 5 years or so since I'd become "obese" (I hate that word!) so hopefully eliminating my excess bodyfat will regulate my levels... I know this happens for some people, but not everyone. We'll see.

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I've been waxing most of my face every four-eight weeks or so for several years and plucking in between. The hair isn't extremely coarse but it is LONG when I let it go! I've been taking spironolactone for the past three months (it's supopsed to take about 6 months for full effect). So far it seems to be helping a bit... It's been about six weeks since my last wax and things look... acceptable. Mostly I've just been lazy, lol.
I use sugar-based wax at room temperature, or sometimes I'll gently warm the container in a sink of warm water. I've found actual cotton fabric strips work better than the weird tyvek stuff you can get (which gets greasy after a few uses!). I try to powder my face before waxing to recude skin-pulling and treat it afterwards with a diluted lavender and tea tree essential oil wash to reduce redness and hives.

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3/30/11 1:36 P

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I've been shaving daily for close to 10 years. I can't seem to find anything else that works, but I've found as I get older, I end up with a five o'clock shadow effect...embarassing!

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I have been doing laser hair removal for six years - and still I have a stubborn patch. It is very frustrating. Unfortunately - i don't think I will ever be hair-free.



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I struggle with this as well and like someone posted its a 7-10 day wax for me. I get super upset about the facial hair but you learn to deal with it I guess...

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3/10/11 7:16 P

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What I hate is when I can feel it but I can't pluck it because it's too short...Agh.

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3/9/11 2:44 P

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Sounds like we all have the same issue! Those of you that can not pluck because it is too thick, Im right there with you! My experience with it being so thick is I could shave in the morning and by dinner time I have stuble again and feel like I should go shave because I can not stand it! My biggest problem is I have dark hair so the little hair that does grow on my upper lip even after I get rid of it....You can see the dark spots where the hair was! lets all hope that someone finds a way to completly get rid of this persistant problem!

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I started growing coarser facial hair under my chin a couple years ago, but it was so sparse I could pluck it. Within the last year, however, it's just quadrupled in amount and I can't keep up with plucking anymore. I started shaving, even though I'm not satisfied with that method, because I also can't imagine letting it grow long enough to wax (unless I hid myself from view for almost a week!). My skin has always been almost too sensitive for waxing anyway. This whole situation just sucks, and I was hoping that once I got treatment for my PCOS, my hormone levels would balance out and the facial hair problem would go away on its own, but from reading others' comments, it sounds like this will be a persistent problem.

Does anyone have any makeup tips that you've found to be really good at covering up facial hair areas, particularly if you shave?

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3/7/11 5:35 P

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First off, to those just reading this post YOU ARE NOT ALONE. I used to get seriously upset about my facial hair. I mean really, really upset. My favorite thing was trying to get a facial and having the aesthetician have no idea what PCOS is. It happened COUNTLESS TIMES! How do you explain that the skin dryness is from Rx's that I'm on and not my typical skin and that with the changing of the seasons my skin can go from super dry to an oil slick in the matter of a few days!

My Dr. gave me a Vaniqa Rx, but at $138 an ounce, I decided it wasn't for me. Especially since it was only to thin it out, much like other drugs, versus all out removal. I've been so obsessed with it the past 10 years that just thinning it out isn't an option for me. So far I've stuck to waxing and it's an every 7-10 day thing. I tried shaving and I couldn't deal with the "stubble feel" by the time I went to bed. I have a few friends that have had a lot of luck with laser hair removal and I'm currently saving up to do that. What they've told me is that the "typical" 6-8 treatments is more like 8-12 treats for people with PCOS. So if you're saving up like I am, bank on going to twice as many treatments as they tell you! And if it ends up being less...then you've already started saving for your next area.

I, too, am curious about the No!No! home treatment. I just might dip into my laser removal fund and see if it works.

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1/19/11 1:15 P

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Spironolactone in my opinion is a miracle drug! I still have hair don't get my wrong but it's much lighter in color, thinner and doesn't grow as fast when I'm on it. I LOVE IT. That and going to electrolysis when I'm on it helps.
I've been off it twice in the last 4 years trying to & getting pregnant. Otherwise I'm always on it. Within a month off my hair level increases like crazy and gets dark. My husband teases me because even my back gets really hair. I HATE begin a hairy person.
I would suggest going on spironolactone ASAP. It takes a few months but you will slowly notice a big difference. It's a wonderful drug.

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i will let you know

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I'd love to know what your doctor says if you don't mind sharing.

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1/16/11 11:49 A

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i also have very thick facial hair and shave every day... i plan on talking it over with my doctor at my next visit.

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I don't have enough money for laser hair removal. Like a couple of you have said, I also have to shave. My hair is dark. Believe it or not, even when I was having chemo, practically the only hair that never fell out was my facial hair (and my eyebrows)! I may have to check into some of the medications you all are talking about, although I've tried metformin 5 times already. Also, if the medications are hormone related, I can't take them anymore. So, perhaps I'll just keep shaving. . . What can you do?

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1/12/11 1:09 P

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I have very anoying facial hair. Usually just pluck the dark hairs and leave the rest. As I get older will probly have to get some laser or something done.

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My OBGYN put me on YAZ birth control and metformin. I have noticeably less facial and arm hair than I did a year ago. Still get some long chin hairs but they are not bristly anymore nor as thick. I've also dropped 40 lbs, so probably getting a related benefit due to less insulin production as well as less other hormones.

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12/26/10 11:38 A

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I found a lot of success with laser hair removal. Most of my hair is gone now, although I do have one small patch that came back. When I get the money saved, I will get that hair taken care of as well.

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12/19/10 8:05 P

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well- facial hair is the worst problem i have but not only facial hair- i have hair everywheres!! and it grows faster than my husbands- embarrassing- i shave in the morning in the shower- then by 6-7pm i have bristles that you cant see really well but i can feel and there is a stuble for sure if you got real close you could see it.... its so horrible i am just starting metformin- and i dont know what else to do about the hair but shave its soo thick i cant pluck and i cant let it get long enough to wax -- and i cant afford laser.. nair makes me break out i have very sensitive skin- so .. i shave and hope someday someone somewhere will invent something that will just take it away - cheaply.

oh and i've been looking at purchasing the No!No! anyone try it?

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I've found laser (not IPL or SPL) with a Candela GentleLASE to be the most effective (and least painful of the lasers).



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I was prescribed spironolactone about 5 years and I've had great results. It took a very long time to begin to see results, but it helps reduce the thickness and darkness of facial and body hair. It's very cheap too! I would recommend all women with PCOS talk to their doctor about it if they have concerns about their facial/body hair.

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I probably have the worst case of facial hair. I shave my face every morning in the shower. I've tried plucking, but there is too much hair, and I can't let it grow long enough to wax/nair it because it's so thick. I tried laser hair removal for about 3 months, and it worked right away, but I ran out of money to finish, so the hair came back. I would reccomend laser hair removal if you have the money to do it for months.

My OBGYN assures me that the new Birth Control she's giving me will help with the hair, it just takes up to 6 months to kick in. She reccomends Diane35 or YAZ for excess hair growth.




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I used to wax and pluck.
Then I started lasering. While on the pill the laser worked great. I went off BCP 2 months ago and I have full growth back. I just went again for another laser session.
We'll see if even off the pill how long the laser can keep the chin hairs at bay.
But I did see good results. Meaning, after a laser treatment it would be more than 4 weeks before I needed to go back for antoher, and this from someone who had to pluck at LEAST every other day!
The only thing is that it only works on people with dark hair and best on fair skin. So I have blonde strays (that aren't just "regular peach fuzz") and those I have to remember to pluck.

I also got a prescription for Vaniqua but since it wasn't covered I didn't pursue it further either.

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Didn't use to have an issue with facial hair of any sort, or body hair for that matter - then I hit menopause and that rule got broken, now I've got hair where I never use to have it.

On the face, I've not tried much my hubby plucks the ones that he notices the most, but those are not overly common - but one thing is for sure I know that I notice it a world of a lot more then he does, but I trust him well enough to know if others might actually really notice it more then I do.

I don't mind him plucking them since I don't feel it at all when he does so - sides its much easer to have him to do since he can see it a lot easer then I can and sides I can relax in bed while he does it.

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I wanted to try Veniqua and my Dr. gave me a prescription, but it wasn't covered by insurance, so I didn't pursue it any further. If I remember correctly I think my dr. told me that you have to put it on a couple times a day, and I already have enough trouble remembering to take the meds I have to!! I have been on metformin for a long time and it hasn't helped with the facial hair issues...but I haven't been on spironolactone, so hopefully that will help!!! You will have to let me know and I'll have to ask my dr about it.

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I did a few treatments of laser hair removal, and now pluck the strays, or wax when it gets to be too much to pluck. I heard the medication I'm on (spironolactone and metformin) should help also, although I've only just started and they're supposed to take 3-4 months to really kick in.

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I use a combination of waxing and sensitive skin Nair for the face. I wish there was something we could take to make it stop. I've heard decent things about Veniqua (sp?) but haven't asked my doc about it yet.

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I know facial hair is one of the symptoms of PCOS and it is something that I have been battling since I was a teenager...I was just wondering what anyone else who suffers with this problem does? I have tried everything from laser hair removal, electroloysis (sp?), waxing, to plucking. Right now I wax and pluck...who has had the most success and with what? It's just so frustrating!!!

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