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SYLPHINPROGRESS
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1/30/12 7:17 P

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I just corrected my messages below. The regulation is from the US Food and Drug Administration, not the US. Dept. of Agriculture.

Because there was some doubt, I emailed the consumer info section of the FDA to be absolutely sure we're understanding the regulation correctly. I'll post their reply only if we're wrong.

Edited by: SYLPHINPROGRESS at: 1/30/2012 (19:18)
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Thanks for all the inf

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1/29/12 7:35 P

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i just checked my labels and you are right ...it says 1/4 cp for the raw too........
well i know when i eat these i usually stick to the 1/4 cp for my portion size......


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1/29/12 6:09 P

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As I interpret the paragraph from the [US] FDA, the 1/4 cup that the mfr says is a one serving is measured raw and, when cooked, it would expand to about one cup. If the pack said 1/2 cup is a serving, that also would be uncooked and should expand to about one cup when cooked. That is, whatever the serving size on the package, it is uncooked (unless otherwise specified), it is the raw amount that measures about one cup after it's cooked.

It's awkward to express it clearly. Maybe a little chart as an example of what I think it means?

package says: 1/4 cup per serving...............comes to one cup when cooked
package says: 1/3 cup per serving..............comes to one cup when cooked
package says: 1/2 cup per serving...............comes to one cup when cooked
package says: 2 oz per serving....................comes to one cup when cooked
package says: 4 oz. per serving...................comes to one cup when cooked.
etc., etc.

Keep in mind, though, that this applies to U.S. requirements.

Edited by: SYLPHINPROGRESS at: 1/30/2012 (19:19)
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1/28/12 11:19 P

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i am sure they do........but am not up on it at the moment........on look at the quinoa serving size i think the 1/4 cp refers more to when it is cooked and not raw what do you think???


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Yes, for those of us this side of the border. It doesn't necessarily help you, but Canada must have a regulation about the topic.

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Edited by: SYLPHINPROGRESS at: 1/28/2012 (23:14)
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great info...............thanks Laurie


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If you've been unsure one too many times whether the label refers to dry/raw or cooked per-serving measure, either by USDA or FDA regulation or simple American custom, here is the answer, which the FDA has jurisdiction over:

from www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceComplianceRegulat
oryInformation/GuidanceDocuments/FoodL
abelingNutrition/FoodLabelingGuide/ucm
064904.htm#prep


"The serving size, however, must represent the product as packaged. This will be the amount of the product, expressed in a household measure, that will make one cup when prepared according to package directions. For example, the serving size for a dry seasoned rice mix will be less than one cup since rice expands during cooking. The gram weight in the parenthetical expression will be the weight of the household measure of dry mix. 21 CFR 101.9(b)(9):"

I was skeptical about quinoa (labelled 1/4 cup per serving), not believing the particular item expands to four times its volume. I didn't measure it all out once cooked, but the raw 1/2 cup did seem close enough to two cups cooked.

Laurie

Edited by: SYLPHINPROGRESS at: 1/30/2012 (19:20)
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