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8/23/09 5:33 A

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Two things: Don't you love the new charting feature tied to the food and exercise journal? For some reason seeing the graphic is so much more meaningful to me (when I eat more calories than I burn) than seeing the raw numbers. Love this sparkpeople!

Has anyone else read the book "spark" about the neuroscience of exercise and how essential it is for our brain (things like ADD and depression not just weight). It is fabulous (although sometimes quite dry) and has changed my motivation for working out aerobically. In the long run - sparkpeople plus "spark" should help me reach my weight goal and enhance my serenity to boot!

Life is good. Thank you sparks.

"Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful."

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I was diagnosed about a year ago ... it's one of the things that got me to Spark. (Little did I realize what that would lead to!)
I don't have any itchiness and I haven't heard of that side effect of Metformin. In the beginning I was a little "gassy", but not painfully so --- just "noisy".

Here's a link for you ... feel free to contact me with any questions and I urge you to check out the "type2 team" I belong to.

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If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

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No meds...at least not yet. He has the type where fasting blood sugar in the am is worse than after he eats. May have something to do with liver than with pancreas and insulin? I'm a newbie to understanding this. My understanding of the South Beach is that it jump starts the avoiding all things white with a total avoidance of sugar, fruit, dairy, and high carb veggies like potatoes for only the first two weeks. Then you gradually add in fruits and whole grains. In the first two week of total carb avoidance you are supposed to dramatically reduce carb cravings. It makes sense but is much more radical than just watching the carb count (which doesn't seem to be working for Jim's weight or his blood sugar yet). His worst number was a little over 200. How long have you been struggling with this? Does the medicine have any ichy side effects for you?

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HEY MARY --
I'm a type 2 diabetic, getting better daily. I've never done the South Beach diet, or any "official" diet. I just avoid and/or limit a lot of foods.
I was taught to stay away from "white food": rice, potatoes, bread...
There's too much to put in this little box. Check out the pre-diabetes/type 2 diabetes team (you can find a link on my home page). There is a ton of info there.
Did they start him on any meds? I take metformin daily and it really helps.
Feel free to check in with me.

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If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
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6/3/09 6:28 A

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Hi all,

My husband was just dx'd with pre-diabetes. I think he is borderline diabetic now as they have him checking his bloodsugar. They sent him to diabetes school. Our sister, a clinical nurse specialist in cardiology has suggested the South Beach to get him off the sugar and lose weight. I just looked at it and whoa - kind of scarey. Has anyone done that? He's motivated to avoid the need for insulin and is asking for my help in menu planning - shopping (the stuff I usually do). LMK and thanks. Mary L

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Erica: Welcome to the team. There is lots of answers to your questions here. I read in your post that you wanted a list of tips on living day to day. I don't know if there is such a thing out there, and I don't want to know. As it says in the Big Book of AA, "we tried the easier, softer way and the result was nil." There are no shortcuts to quitting drinking and to learning a healthy lifestyle. I wish I knew otherwise, because it would make me very rich. To answer your query, I can only recommend that you give AA a thorough try. At meetings I find all the answers to my questions, either during the meeting, or after, by sharing and talking to others who know an awful lot more about staying sober than I do. Good luck with your journey, the hard work is definately worth it.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

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5/31/09 6:39 A

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Hi Erica,

Glad you are here. Come anytime.
I think the ideal place to get suggestions are at AA meetings. If you call the phone number for alcoholics anonymous in your area you will likely get what is known as an "intergroup" a place where things like telephone volunteers are organized and supplies (like books and pamphlets) are made available for groups and meetings. Someone on the phone will be able to tell you a few meeting choices. Once there, you can pick up a book with all the meetings in your area listed. Ask folks there (that you get good vibes from) where the better meetings are. That will get you started.

What I did early on was go to work, go to a meeting, and pretty much go home to bed and AA/recovery literature. I did this for a few weeks and my family let me have a lot of space. As I got more comfortable....I added healthier activities to the repetoire (exercise and family activites instead of hiding in bed :). Life kept getting better; I kept getting better. Today (I'm 6 years sober) life is really good and pretty darn healthy. I still go to 3 meetings a week where I find a reality check and have lots of good friends. I have friend who gives a wonderful talk and he likens himself to a turtle on a fencepost....he couldn't get there without help. I needed help to get sober too and it has turned out to be a blessing. Good for you Erika for wanting to get healthy. Best of luck to you. Please know you are welcome here.
Mary L.

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Sobriety came first. Healthy eating came second.

I love that "Living Sober" book!

I find it's easier to stick to my goals when I'm around people with similar ideas. Sober people can easily be found in AA. Exercise enthusiasts can easily be found in a gym or running trail. When I was drinking, I easily found people who drank, ate poorly and sat around being negative.

I have a lot of "trudging buddies" in AA -- people who are going through the same stuff I am, weight issues, exercise issues, work issues, health issues, relationship issues.

It's good to find you're not alone.

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WELCOME (back) ERIKA:

It sounds like you have a desire to stay sober. That is the only requirement to be a member of A.A. I'm glad that you read "Living Sober" it is a wonderful book with some good ideas about day to day stuff. I find it to be a bit out - dated, however, and go to sober A.A. members for real solutions to real problems.

I recommend that you take the plunge and get a sponsor. They will probably guide you through the BIG BOOK OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS and the 12 steps . . . that is where you will find recovery. Those 12 steps can then be applied to other life issues.

This is a tough battle --- these are both tough battles. Many of us on this team see the similarities in our addictive behavior surfacing in our eating habits. You are so right about making poor choices when drunk . . . I find that I make poor choices due to emotional issues or just habits I haven't yet broken.

Please, if you can, dump the word "shame" from your vocabulary. I was taught early on that shame says I'm a bad person --- guilt says I did something wrong.
I'm guilty of bad choices and can make good ones today, with help.
I've been sober for 16+ years, so my perspective might be a little different than some. I hope other folks will chime in with their experience, strength, & hope --- WE STAY SOBER TOGETHER OR WE DIE ALONE.


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If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
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5/30/09 1:20 P

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Ive only posted here once before. I went to my first AA meeting this week, not sober yet, but getting there. If that makes any sense.

I have realized that my weight loss and fitness journey will not and CANNOT happen without sobriety. i had it backwards, thought I would get fit and reduce my binge drinking along the way. I think now it's the other way around. When I take that first drink, other follow and so does crappy eating and exceeding calories, making poor choices in every regard.

So I thought I would say hello. I am new to the realization that I have a real problem; have therapy later today and an oupatient rehab intake monday. I'm scared about my health.

Where can I go for some practical (I just finished Living Sober) tips on getting through the day without falling apart? I've looked online. I just want a list of ideas.

I like to exercise and when I do not drink, I stay within calorie range. I've put on a bunch of weight in my midsection recently, I'm so ashamed. I look and feel awful. Grrr.

Do you guys make sobriety a part of your non-diet goals here at SP?

Ideas welcome, thanks

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4/27/09 11:13 A

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Today I'm planning all of my healthy meals ahead of time so I don't just impulsively eat something not on the plan.

See to it that your relationship with Him is right and great events will come to pass for you and countless others.


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I am going to honour myself throughout the day.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

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emoticon IDEA...I'M OUTSIDE TODAY REPOTTING PLANTS & ENJOYING THE emoticon WITH MY emoticon
A BIG GREEN SALAD FOR DINNER...

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GOOD IDEA MARY --

I'm going to work on PORTION CONTROL . . .


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If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
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4/26/09 3:55 P

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There is so much chat about weight struggles lately that perhaps we might make more regular use of this thread (pro-actively).

How about today.....what cha going to do?
I'm going to move more today, drink my water, and make conscious food choices. Today.

Mary L.

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If I didn't burn 150-200 calories daily on my walks, I'd take forever to lose a pound. I find I can't go too much below 1500 calories a day. I enjoy eating too much.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

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You answered it yourself --- EXERCISE!

Now that the weather is getting better, you can probably find time to hike.
If I didn't ride my stationary bike daily, I'd be a mess. I'm glad I've established that habit.
Don't beat yourself up too much, my friend, I think you're doing great.

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If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
-- Aeschylus


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I know I know....step up the exercise emoticon

"Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful."

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3/29/09 8:36 A

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OKay, Been doing WW about 4 weeks and have lost 3 lbs. I know that is good but I gained last week (was close to 5) and so far this week doesn't look good). Since I am near my goal weight....it is very resistant to coming off. If I have one bad day in a week (I did yesterday - it is usually the weekend) I seem to lose all the good efforts of the other days. Not fair. Hmmmmm. I think one should be able to take off 1 day a week and eat without worrying so much about what. I'm not binging on that bad day - just eating a restaurant meal without worrying. With WW I get so many points (pretty much equates to calories but also takes away for fat calories and credits fiber calories) each day + 35 bonus points. If I use all 35 bonus points at this stage - I seem to not lose. If I use only 20ish - I seem to lose but that allows little to no wiggle room for the weekend. Any ideas? Hmmm.

Mary L.

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emoticon & emoticon TO YOU...
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WAY TO GO SPLASHGIRL --

We lived for many years (if you call that living) without caring for our bodies. One of the benefits of getting sober is that we actually start caring if we live or not...so we take care of our spirits AND our bodies.

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If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
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First of all, congrats on nearly 6 months. What an accomplishment. I agree that taking care of yourself is an integral part of recovery. It only took me 4 years to figure that out. Exercise does so much, for not only the body, but your mood and frame of mind. Keep up the good work.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

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3/26/09 9:15 A

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I have been working out pretty consistently through my recovery (6 months in a few days) and I think that it has made all the difference. I feel better and sleep better and my mood is much happier. Everyone around me has noticed and I certainly have. I'm sticking with the working out and self-care because it's working for me!

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3/15/09 12:55 P

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Fitness is integral to my sobriety. Stress is my number one trigger and working out every day keeps me on track like nothing else!

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I hope that works for you, Mary. I keep toying with joining. Maybe after my play opens and my nights get a little more free.
Life isn't fair ---- my wife only weighs about 5 pounds more than when we got married -- and you should see the sweets and bread she eats.
Oh well --- if life was fair, I'd be in jail or dead... so I guess I'll deal with life on life's terms... one day at a time.

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If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
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3/2/09 6:03 A

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Started weight watchers with my husband this week. Totally unfair how many more points he gets than me.

The new plan is similar to the old in counting points and getting 35 extra each week. The focus is on choosing healthy foods that fill you up. Lots of lean protein, fruits and veggies and small amounts of good fat (eevo) and only whole grain carbs. All stuff we know. It just gives structure.

The key for me....writing it all down. I am going to lose the last 10 ....well.....today, I'm going to write down everything I eat and make healthy choices.

Good day everyone!

Mary L

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3/1/09 9:45 A

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Good for you! I just got a sponsor, myself. Have a wonderful day. It's work to keep priorities, that's for sure. Take care, Annie

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Thanks for your concern. All is well now, and I am getting back on track. I go tomorrow to meet with a new sponsor and I am excited about that. I think getting my priorities back, AA first and foremost will help a lot with my weight loss. It will help me get my head back in the right place.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

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Boy, I'm sorry for not replying to you in such a long time. I know what you mean about getting depressed this time of year. I hope you're doing well today, and that you're recovering from your injuries.

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I have barely been holding it together. I am back to the first step, that my life in becoming unmanagable. Nothing to do with drinking, just in general. I think I get depressed this time of year, and have a hard time holding all the threads together. Anyway, today I vowed (again) to use AA's first 3 Steps to get my act together. It does work when I truly apply them to all facets of my life. As for the canoe, you can check out what we are doing at firstcanoe.blogspot.com. I couldn't do that without having an incredible carpenter for a husband. Take care, Stephanie

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SBATES63, it's so great that you haven't gained any weight, though. And that you're actively building a canoe (?)--good lord, that's so beyond me.
What I mean, it sounds like within this slump, you've still had some success?
One thing that works for me food-wise when I'm hungry and stressed and can't fathom whipping up something appropriate to eat: a handful of walnuts and a handful of dried apricots.
The walnuts are full of calories and the apricots are full of sugar. But so many omega-3's and antioxidents as well. They pack a big punch and keep me full for awhile. If I feel like my blood sugar isn't stablized, I do another handful of each.

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What I need now is a kick in the pants to get going again. Being either sick or hurt for the last month has derailed me. I haven't really gained any weight, but I have been binging on sweets and eating things I haven't logged. The only thing that has saved me is being active on our canoe build. Tomorrow I am going to start and get back to what was working for me. No more half-a#%^d Sparking for me. My AA has suffered a bit in that I haven't being doing much extra until the last couple of days. I even missed a morning prayer or two.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

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Let me know how it works. I'm always leery of "gimmicks", but....I need help too.

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If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
-- Aeschylus


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My work wellness program is offering a reduced fee Weight Watchers. I've decided to tackle the last 10 (very grateful that is where I am) with help because I'm not doing it on my own (surprise surprise). I understand they have a new gimmick. I start Weds. If anyone is interested, I"ll let you know what is. It is called "momentum" so I'm thinking it probably is piggy backing on some of Dr. Oz's thoughts about foods to reduce belly fat and fuel the body best.

Mary L

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It's a good idea. I certainly put sobriety first but over the past 20 years in the program I have learned that sobriety is a way of life that includes me as a whole person and in all facets of my life. I am cross addicted. For me food is an addiction and I did not get sober just to die from heart disease or other diseases caused by overeating.

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Thanks, Mary, and everyone else on this team. This is the one forum where I can focus on my highest priority -- my sobriety. I don't post much, but I read everything and I really appreciate all of you sharing your experience, strength, hope and often humor!

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I have come to the conclusion that I am powerless over food, as I was over alcohol. I have used the principles of AA during my weight loss, but I never remember to when I start to get out of control with the eating. I am going to try each and every day to remember that I am powerless over food, too.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

PROGRESS, NOT PERFECTION.


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Wonderful idea. I always felt more like I was a an AA meeting on the team site, rather than a healthy lifestyle site. I mean that in a great way. I know that without sobriety, the rest of my recovery won't happen. Learning a healthier way of living is just another step in my recovery.

Persevere. Even if you fall on your face, you have moved forward.

PROGRESS, NOT PERFECTION.


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emoticon IDEA...
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THANK YOU MARY...

TO BELITTLE IS TO BE Little...........INTIMACY,"into me you see.".......TO ERR Is HUMAN.....To Really SCREW Things Up.......YOU Need A COMPUTER


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IT'S FINE WITH ME --

I never knew the thread existed!!
Maybe we'll see some action ---

PEACE
KEITH

If you let go a little you will have a little happiness.
If you let go a lot you will have a lot of happiness.
If you let go completely you will be free. - Ajahn Chah

I won't be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. (The Prisoner)

It is a profitable thing, if one is wise, to seem foolish.
-- Aeschylus


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Morning all,

Since the conventions thread has had very few visitations, I decided to move the forum to a topic and change the forum to "outside issues". Unique perhaps to our group (although we are terminally unique ), is that the priority is clearly sobriety, not weight loss. First things first keeps us alive in my humble opinion. That said, many of us may certainly welcome a place to freely talk about weight loss/management from the perspective of one who puts sobriety first. So....I changed the forum to outside issues for that reason. We have no structure or organization so if you disagree we can take a group conscience and change it. Mary L



"Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful."

Mary L. in Virginia


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