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try to eat more veggies

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Mjluvsanimals,
this is sort of a typical day for me:
I often start the day with a cup of decaf (try to avoid caffeine) and some heavy cream.
I will have some plain full-fat yogurt, maybe 3/4 cup with 1/2 cup berries (blueberries, blackberries, in sommer whatever is ripe in the garden, in winter frozen) and at least one oz. of nuts. Plain yogurt lists sugar (lactose is milk sugar) as an ingredient but most of that is eaten by the bacteria that transform milk into yogurt.
Sometimes I have a 3-egg omelet with mushrooms or green veggies like kale, mustard greens, collard greens, spinach etc. cooked into it.
Both of these I eat sometimes for breakfast and sometimes for lunch. Often I only need breakfast or lunch, not both, to feel full.
If I need a snack during the day I might have some more nuts (I usually have at least 4 different kinds in the house, like almonds, walnuts, macadamia nuts, pecans or even pumpkins seeds). If I feel like baked items I will make them with eggs and nut flours (ground in the food processor), sometimes pancakes, sometimes low-carb muffins. You can find even low-carb pizza crust recipes online, but I rarely feel the need.
Dinner is often ground beef with 2 vegetables, one green, one another color or mushrooms with lots of herbs, onion, garlic, sesame oil, hot sauce...
We do eat chicken, but only with skin and dark meat, breast is too lean and has no flavor.
I cook veggies in coconut oil or butter, when I eat mixed salads (in season) I use olive oil and vinaigrette as dressing, sometimes lemon.
There are literally thousands of great recipes online and in low-carb and paleo books. Just google and see what you find.
As long as I limit fruit to one lower carb fruit serving or half a higher carb serving (like apple) my carbs stay at or very close to 50 grams/day.

It is important to avoid all low-fat or fat-free products. They are not natural and will always have more carbs. Large amounts of saturated fat will not harm you at all as long as it is natural. Only trans-fats are very bad for us.
Hope that helps, but there is so much more on the low-carb team...

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Actually, apples are the highest sugar content, but I think the fiber is such that they are okay to eat. Bananas are said to really be a problem for many people. I like grapes, but I seldom get them. Usually what I get is apples, oranges, berries and melon. I do have problems with keeping my carb count as low as the others of you, but unless I am having real problems with the carbs it will stay quite a bit below what is on the nutrition tracker. When I was eating more eggs and my cholesterol went up I was being very cautious with the carbs because I was trying to get my A1c back down (got it from 8 to 7, so I still need to work on it). I haven't heard anything from my doctor on that because some doctors at the clinic quit and she has been having to take double patients, so the office people cancelled my appointment with her.

My doctor is not one who says to eat regular levels of carbs. She told me she prefers a low carb diet and was the one who suggested the eggs and chicken because they are low carb and less expensive (at least if they are on sale). It's a little hard to just eat chicken, but I am trying to find different ways to cook it so it doesn't always taste the same. I cannot chew steak, so beef is either ground or roast made in the crock pot if I can find it cheap enough and pork needs to go in the crock pot, too, or I can't chew it.

I am still trying to find veggies that I can afford and will like and that don't upset my gut. That is hard. I kept trying broccoli, but cannot eat that. Cannot eat eggplant, which I liked okay, but it didn't agree with me. Any cruciferous will cause problems. So I am limited in veggies by that and what they actually have around here.

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AMEN, BIRGIT!!!!
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I tell ya it gets harder and harder when you try to do the right thing. Your including, grains AND beans?? And I don't do the blood glucose testing, and I do not take insulin. I am doing this with diet and exercise alone, with the Dr's observation and care. I hate medication, and will do anything to not have to take it. My Dr. is good with that, obviously he is not on the board with the FDA.
But now not sure what I can or cannot eat? Carbs under 50? Does that mean no fruits at all? Because most of my carbs are my fruits and grains. And occasional cereals, which I will replace with grapefruit, if not too high in carbs? I will check out the team, you mentioned to see how they manage.
What really irks me though, is some trainers and professionals say you can pretty much eat anything, as long as you exercise, another dilemma why tell people they can eat like that! We know that's not true. At least not true for the majority, can see it for a super healthy individual, but not everybody can do that.
How do you stay that low in carbs Birgit?

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Any carbohydrates raise insulin levels, but sweet fruit does much more than most vegetables (other than potatoes). Grapes are extremely high in sugar so I would absolutely stay away from them.
What many people don't know is that most doctors will not recommend for people to lower their carbs because they are not ever planning to treat anything but the symptoms of diabetes.
To make the point let me give a clear example:
Let's say you hit your thumb with a hammer by accident. Pain medication, if strong enough, can do great things to make you feel better. But assuming that it is ok to regularly hit your thumb with a hammer, knowing that you can always take pain medication would be ridiculous. Thumbs are not designed to handle repeated regular blows from a hammer.
Type 2 diabetes is a disease of carbohydrate intolerance. Eating large amounts of carbohydrates (sugar, starches, grains, beans, sweet fruit) does damage every time they are eaten. The body is already insulin resistant, which means that much more insulin is required to remove the sugar from the blood stream than for healthy people. The insulin itself does possibly more damage than the sugar and drugs for diabetes have side effects as well.
If you were allergic to a food you would not continue eating it in normal quantities and get treated for severe allergy symptoms every time.
But type 2 diabetics are told by physicians regularly that eating carbs is ok as long as they take enough insulin. This is INSANE.
Carbohydrates are not an essential nutrient. Our body can make the small amount it really needs. The small amount of carbohdrates in many vegetables is not a problem for most people but everything else should be limited in my opinion.
I stay between 30-40 grams of carbs/day and am very healthy. Some people eat no carbs at all and are very healthy.
Please take a look at the low-carb team on Spark for more info.

Birgit

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This is another one of those contradictions. How much fruit to eat, and what fruit. Another one I am having trouble with. I eat 3 to 4 a day, and I have at least 1 banana and a berry. The other would be an orange or apple (don't like them, but will eat them) I am waiting for watermelon to get sweeter, and grapes have just been too high in cost. I also understand that they have the most sugar. Funny thing my Dr. who diagnosed my diabetes, said no problem with eating any kind of fruit. But then there are others saying no. It gets almost too complicated. I guess I will know when I get my blood tests next month.

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Fruit is a little more tricky. It is not as concentrated as starches and table sugar and there is fiber with it. Fruit is also more fructose than glucose, not necessary better, although not affecting insulin as much. I try to limit myself to one or two servings of lower carb fruit like berries and only have half of a big apple and eat it with protein. She less sweet fruit with more fiber is better by comparison, so for instance wild blueberries are a little better than farmed blueberries etc.
I stay away from tropical fruit and grapes completely.
If you want to learn more about the effects of fruit it might help to read on some paleo websites like Marksdailyapple.com
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I don't eat fruit, so I can't answer to that aspect. But, for me, carbs are carbs.

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That is interesting. I didn't know that the carbs would affect the cholesterol. I hadn't had very high cholesterol before, even when I got too many carbs, so I never connected the two. I like fruit and berries when I can afford them so will that keep it going up if I eat the eggs? I know they are high carb. Does it make any difference what the GI is in the carbs?

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Russell is absolutely correct. Eggs aren't what causes a rise in cholesterol. I practically live on eggs and my cholesterol averages about 110. But my carbs are less than 30 a day.

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My cholesterol went up when I ate eggs, till I cut my carbs down to under 50 a day. The issue was carbs. Once I limited my carbs, my cholesterol dropped to 104, while eating 4 XL whole eggs every day. We see that eggs have cholesterol, and say that is why the cholesterol went up, but it is really the bread, sugar, pasta, rice and other starchy carbs which causes it.

Conveniently, they are also the cause of elevated blood sugars. I have now been off all my diabetes meds for 3 entire years this month, and my A1C is 5.4, cholesterol 104, and BP was 100/76 on Tuesday. I have heart problems, which is why I started Atkins, but a healthy person would have a lot less trouble following something like Atkins. You could have whole eggs. Yolks are delicious. My greatest concern now is low blood sugars.

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You may want to consider looking into Protein powder but be careful, there are different sources, Whey (which I believe is dairy) and soy

It can also be expensive, but I have seen them on sale around here (I am in Canada) so if you look around, you might get a good deal.

Some days when I find it difficult to eat solids, I make up a smoothie and put some protein powder in the blend. It may or may not be a viable option for you, but you certainly could investigate the possibility...

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cant help much since you cant eat beans & dislike eggs

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I too have trouble finding healthy sources of protein, I do find eating peant butter and some nuts, sunflower seeds to name a few, I also like to eat granola bars with protein (such as fiber one), oatmeal and cream of wheat made a cast iron pots and the post are a good source of iron. Good Luck this is a tough one.

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Don't worry about the eggs increasing cholesterol. They do for some people but it is not the dangerous kind of LDL they increase (small dense type), only the large, fluffy type. To make eggs more interesting you can stir-fry some dandelion greens and then add the scrambled eggs to it. Just make sure the dandelions have not been sprayed. The flowers are edible, too.
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My doctor said she likes the low carb diets. She had suggested the eggs and chicken. She also got mixed up and said potatoes, it sounded like, but I know that she did not mean that because she has already said she doesn't like me to eat potatoes. I don't think she realized that the eggs would hit me the way they did. I had been eating them some before, but not as much. I ended up eating more because I couldn't afford anything. I end up eating carbs because that is what I can usually afford. I've been making soups so that things last longer, but with summer coming that probably won't be something I want to do too often.

I have some seeds started to plant this month. Unfortunately, they look like they are doing the same thing as last year and dying. It will be a couple more weeks before I can transfer them to outside (we usually plant around Memorial Day here). There are co-ops, but they are around $400 for a half share and I can't possibly get that much together. I have no idea how to get my bills paid this month.

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Not all diabetics eat the same foods. If one wants to get healthy you need to cut out the bad food. FANCYQTR doesn't your physician work with you on what you actually can eat?
3 things I wouldn't eat, egg cheese, and enchilada sauce, unless the sauce was homemade. I decided to get well, and I don't eat those things. And oh yeah, I am on a limited budget as well.
But I manage to get the right kind of food. Being on a 1200 calorie diet, doesn't allow you that much to eat, so it's manageable. And I do watch the sales.

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Fancy--Diabetics eat the same foods as everyone else, so cutting calories means cutting out a lot of unnecessary calories, and that saves money. The trick is in the planning: shop the sales and store brands, plan for leftovers, plant a garden. My daughter & son-in-law joined a food co-op; those aren't everywhere, but prices are lower.
We picked and ate dandelions when I was growing up--the trick is to pick them while they're young--otherwise--yuck-o! Mom steamed them, and added onions for flavor.
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I did forget one other thing I cannot eat much of and that is soy. I already eat it when I have Chinese (I like Chinese veggies), so in other things I try to avoid it. I had 2 estrogen-related cancers so have to stay away from it. That is hard since it is in just about everything. I was thinking of the milk today and thought how so many use soy milk.

I ended up with an egg today with the little bit of cheese and enchilada sauce, but I don't want to do that very frequently since my cholesterol went up. I have been taking hemp oil capsules for it and maybe I can figure a way to use flax seed in cooking. Thank you for the information you have given.

Our church does have their little food bank (very small church) that helps a lot of families in the area and they have a refrigerator and/or freezer. I know that because they have turkeys collected at Thanksgiving.

Does anyone know how to use dandelions? What parts you eat (I suspect the leaves) and how bitter they are? How to fix them? I have dandelions all over the yard. I'm sure the neighbors don't like that, but maybe they would be something I could eat.

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You didn't say anything about rice? I eat brown rice. How about lentils, it's a sort of bean. Not sure how it would affect you though.
Yes I have noticed it's not easy to eat healthy, on a low income. Unfortunately the retailers know that eating healthy is the deal today, and prices are high on those particular items.
I wish the Government could try eating on a $1.50 a day!


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Have you considered cheesed and especially tofu as a protein? Tofu is one of those foods that'll take on the flavor or whatever you use it with, so it can be marinated in a little soy sauce, or stir-fried with some onions or garlic. You can treat it like a meat or scramble it like eggs, or use it in a smoothie. I like to buy the extra firm kind, and then press out any residual liquid with a paper towel or dish towel. It's inexpensive and good for you.

There's nothing wrong with only eating chicken as a protein either; it's fairly lean and so versatile.

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The food pantry I work at has several freezers. Sometimes they're clear empty, sometimes they're clear full. It just depends on the donations on a day to day basis. We partner with 2 different WalMarts who give us their meat, so we are very lucky. As for the rest of the shelves, yep it's all the canned goods, pasta, rice. We get expired/dented cans and boxes from WalMart also. good luck, Darlene!

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yes you have a lot of no I can not do this or that . restrictions on my way of thinking and eating . first you have to think different eating . change the thought process and see that you can eat loads of foods . just ask the government and they will tell you that the average person can live upon $1,50 a day . this said the people who have tried to do this say it is not an easy thing to live upon $1,50 , I am sure that you can not . the cost of living is way up for all of us . I am trying to cut the costs of our meals . MY hubby is complaining daily about the same stuff . I do not want to eat beans and rice . I don't like veggies . what to do ? I don't know if you find out please let me know . I too need help . keeping my costs per meal down . I would like to keep it under 5 a meal for both of us . . do you have a food bank in your neighborhood ? what about your church . ask ? it can not hurt. emoticon m emoticon emoticon m

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Hi Darlene. At our food bank that I volunteer for, we do have a frig and freezer.
We do give out meat, cheese butter canned veggies and fruits, tooth paste, soap, laundry detergent, TP, soups, PB and jelly...
And yes, boxed pasta and rice dishes, jarred pasta sauce, mac and cheese that are unhealthy.
They are all so different.
Churches do have funds to help their local citizens and you don't have to be a church member.
There are so many people willing to help out in these hard times.

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I went to the food bank the other day, mainly to find out information, but got a bag of food. There were two cans of tuna, one can of chicken (small tuna size). Mostly the pasta. Two mac and cheese, spaghetti (this one I kept and will last probably 3 years or more), another pasta dish, some rice dish. There was also chili with beans, so I couldn't eat it. They had canned peas and corn but no other vegetables and no fruit. I am sure that they don't have refrigerators or freezers there for any of that food. At our church they do have a freezer or refrigerator, but just about all they have there is pasta, too. It is just what they can store without a problem. It does show, though, if you are low income you cannot eat very healthy, especially if you cannot eat beans and everyone thinks that everyone can eat beans and ramen noodles for all their meals around here.

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Gosh My Dear...What a predicament...
I suggest going to your local food bank, church or county health dept.
They should be able to get you some food and some help.
Also, talk to your Dr. or Nutritionist for ideas for what to eat that works for you.
It's all in the balance. carbs + proteins.
I surely hope things get better for you.

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Don't know if this team is good for asking this or not. I've tried the message boards and wound up with to eat beans and rice, so it wasn't of any help. To start, I CANNOT eat beans because I will be sick all day (I might lose a ton of weight, though, because I won't absorb much of anything). I don't have much to get food. I am currently totally out of money for food and have been for a week already and won't have anything for another week. I need protein ideas because that is the only thing that will keep me from being hungry all the time.

I was eating eggs for breakfast, which were recommended by my doctor since they are cheap. However, I don't like eggs much and put cheese (2% milk) on them or need something to hide most of the taste. I cannot stand the whites plain. I eat chicken more than anything for meat, but sometimes can find some low fat ground beef on sale or some pork chops. The problem I have is mainly that eating the eggs for breakfast my cholesterol went up to over 200 for the total.

So I am having problems because eating the eggs or proteins that have fat I get high cholesterol. Eating something like beans causes really bad IBS problems. Carbs cause high BGs. I can get some vegetables, but without much to buy food, I can't afford much in them because they are always going bad. I am just about to give up because I can't seem to eat anything without a problem. If I only eat chicken for protein would that work out? Of course, I find I can only get about 4 or 5 packages of meat for the entire month. I can't eat very much fish.

Darlene


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