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1/23/13 1:27 P

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I find Spark wants us to eat a lot of starch

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1/23/13 12:23 P

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I completely agree with Brigit; she's telling you the current "gold standard" method of lifestyle--not diet!--for diabetics. Mind you, you can't do this kind of eating for awhile, lose weight, gain optimal blood sugar numbers, and then return to the way you used to eat. This is a lifestyle, not a 'diet'.

Two sources I've found especially helpful:
Why We Get Fat, by Gary Taubes, and
Diabetes Solution, by Richard K. Bernstein, M.D.

It is essential that you understand what insulin, food, and exercise do to your body and how they affect your diabetes. There is no cookie-cutter menu that will work perfectly for everyone; you've got to test, log, and experiment to see what you can live with.

I have very strict goals and treat my diabetes aggressively. It isn't for everyone but it works for me.


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1/23/13 11:43 A

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Bumps,
here is what I do to give you an example of what it might look like:
I leave out all grains and legumes and sugar as well as tropical fruit like bananas and pineapple. This reduces carbs in my diet to about 60-80 grams/day without having to count them. I eat all I'm hungry for (given there is no significant emotional eating problems and assuming I eat slowly rather than stuffing it in) of meats, fish, full-fat dairy, nuts, whole eggs, cheese, veggies (minus potatoes,corn and other high-starch veggies), mushrooms and healthy oils like virgin coconut oil and olive oil. For me this keeps protein in the range it needs to be in, not lower than 60 grams/day but not higher than 100 grams/day.
It is important that all animal products come as much as possible from pasture-fed animals because the lipid composition is very different (more omega 3's) and there are more nutrients, esp. minerals and fat-soluble vitamins.
I eat fruit in moderation, limiting myself to one smaller apple or 1/2 cup of berries.

If I want to lose weight faster I will reduce carbs further down to 20 grams/day, similar to the Atkins style of eating.
Carbohydrates are not an essential nutrient so there is no minimum requirement.
The South Beach Diet will work for many people for a long time because it still eliminates many carbohydrates. It is based on the assumption that high levels of fats in the diet, esp. saturated fats, are dangerous and the newest research has shown this to be untrue.

You can find several low-carb teams on Spark, including the "Wheatbelly" team, through my Spark page and I have written many blogs about low-carb eating as well.
Hope that helps to get you started. emoticon

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1/23/13 1:04 A

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I do very well when I follow the South Beach diet. But, I don't track on spark all the time because it does not balance the way SP thinks it should. My doctor is OK with me following that diet. I also use my meter to help me figure out what to eat.

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1/23/13 12:28 A

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I know with all information there can be discrepancies...this often happens over the internet and some people unfortunately become misinformed. So, I like what you said.

I am also finding that it can be very tricky 'balancing' my daily nutrition with Carbs/fat/fiber/ etc.
Question to you: Is there a way I can find out how have a LOW CARB + high FAT + MAINTAIN CLOSE TO 80 G/DAY OF PROTEIN? i AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A MENU I CAN CREATE TO ACCOMPLISH LOWERING MY GLUCOSE, LOOSE 40 #'S, AND EVENTUALLY HAVE MY DOCTOR LOWER ALL MY MEDS FOR DIABETES. YOU WOULD BE SUCH A GREAT HELP.

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1/23/13 12:23 A

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I am trying to understand this....what do you mean by 60% of the 'DIET' as Fat? Are you referring to 60% of the daily calories? I would appreciate your help on this one.

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1/22/13 10:27 P

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I agree, in spite of what the Spark program says, the lower your carbs and the higher your fat (assuming moderate protein of about 80 g/day) the lower your blood sugar readings will be. emoticon
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1/22/13 10:26 P

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People who embrace a very low carb diet for diabetes often eat as much as 60% of their diet as fat.

Valerie
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1/22/13 10:14 P

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The way to know is to test your blood sugars. I find that eating higher fat and lower carb gives me the blood sugar readings I want.

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1/22/13 10:02 P

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I had 18% fat over my recommended and 12% under my recommended carbs.
Is this a very very bad ratio? What will happen to me?
I used the Spark suggestions to eat MOO Goo Guy pan- steamed but the large plate of veggies were sooo good that I ate 2 cups instead of one. The chicken with this was also steamed.

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