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Like VEGFROG, I'm a long-time vegetarian. Actually, 38 years vegetarian, going on 39 in a few months. (I'm 54.) My teeth are in great shape, a few minor cavities that were filled, yet all in less dental problems than most folks I know. My diet is healthy and well balance. I brush 3-4 times a day with an extra-soft brush, and floss twice a day. (Also have great teeth genetics.)

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2/2/13 11:21 A

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This is SO ironic. My mother ate a very traditional American diet , and she told me many times that my teeth were going to rot and fall out if I didn't eat meat! When she passed she had a full set of dentures. This year will mark my 23rd as a vegetarian. I am in my late fifties, have a few fillings, otherwise my teeth are great!

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2/2/13 6:52 A

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I'm a late comer to this thread having just stumbled across it. I've never heard of anything so ridiculous in my life. It actually made me chuckle. People will make ludicrous statements (..."humans need to consume meat for healthy teeth..") to sway others to their way of doing things or to ease their conscience when it comes to their own actions.

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here is a site that I came across:

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I was not a vegan but we had alot of veggie meals (meals with no meat)

I have been a vegetairian for over 20 years and I have beentrying to be more vegan the last year

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Were you raised vegan or are you vegan now?

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I agree that brushing and flossing is very important. Also the sugary candies are bad for your teeth. My dad (who was a dentist) would not let us have the sugary hard candies but my uncle (was a dentist too) would let my cousins have sugary candies.

I remember my cousins walking around with the candies and complaining that I want some too and my parents would say no its bad for your teeth.

well I saw my cousins at the office with my uncle drilling their teeth and my dad looked at me saying that is why you can't eat the candies. They had like 10 filling and I had none( I have just a small one now)

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3/14/12 10:52 P

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I retired now but worked in the dental field for 35 years. The bad teeth were not from a vegan diet. Daily brushing and flossing makes the biggest differnece. Chewing on ice is also not good. Not only can it cause temperature tramma but can cause fracture lines.

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3/14/12 3:13 P

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It's nice to read all your comments. Because, really the thought of eating animals when we have so much other wonderful foods makes me sick to think about it. My mother is an omnivore and she lost almost all her teeth before age 30. I am almost fifty and I have almost all my teeth. I lost the one I use to open bottles with when I was young. And I lost the one I use to crunch ice with, and while I was an omnivore I ate very little meat until I became a vegetarian.

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3/14/12 2:58 P

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Mike, meat is one of the things that get suck between teeth and is difficult to get out, more so than fruits and veggies, even with flossing. The less meat you eat, the cleaner your teeth will be. That's just my own personal opinion, but I think it holds lots of truth.

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3/14/12 2:34 P

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I have always had bad teeth, finally about 3 years ago I lost all my uppers. At the time I was still eating meat that summer I quit meat and then next year dairy. When I first got my denture there was a mineral build up in the corners, it was hard and had to be polished of. since I haven't been eating meat or dairy that build up is much less and is so soft I can chip it off with my thumb nail. Also I was told by the hygienist that my plate was one of the cleanest she has seen, and that is with no special care. My conclusion is that eating meat make a very dirty mouth

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This makes me think of what my grandmother always told me. If you live long enough, there's nothing you can do to stop yourself from falling apart. Some people fall apart sooner than others, but those who keep on living will experience a breakdown, just like a car.

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3/14/12 9:59 A

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humans have the teeth of a herbivore. if you compare the teeth of animals (herbivore, omnivores, and carnivores) you will find human teeth only match a herbivore, not even an omnivore. a cats teeth is a carnivore. a bears teeth is omnivore, a horses teeth (similar to humans) is herbivore. if human teeth were meant to eat meat, you would be able to pickup a live rabbit and just start eating it. remember anything you are truly naturally capable of going, you can do naked and without any tools or fire

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OMG, I hardly know what to laugh at first. This sounds like another scare tactic from the 1950's by the meat industry.
My (traditional) dentist says that most people will either run afoul of cavities OR plaque. It's just the nature of their teeth and body chemistry.
Meanwhile, I am falling apart in bits and pieces all over the place (MS), but luckily, my teeth have always been in good shape, regardless of the lack of animal protein.
I think we can add this to the column of Scary Rumours Against Vegetarian-Commie-Freaks.

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Cure Tooth Decay by Ramiel Nage,l is what I read too.

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I am reading a book saying the same. It is called Cure Tooth Decay by Ramiel Nagel and the foreward is by the president of the holistic dental association. I have been vegan for over 4 years and I have not eaten candy in over 8 years. I have 4 cavities and all my other teeth are so sensitive I cannot even eat an orange that has been sitting at room temperature for over 24 hours without feeling sharp pain in my teeth. I think they are all going bad and I floss daily and brush twice a day. I drink juices and smoothies every day (freshly made from organic produce). I eat raw and cooked.

I am disgusted by meat and dairy but now I feel I will have no teeth and I am bamboozled as to why. I was told by a dentist that it is starch. So I cannot eat potatoes? No grains? No carrots? I mean the list of foods is getting so limited, I don't feel like even eating any longer. I am so frustrated and annoyed by it because I feel I should be in perfect health.

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Can you share that article you read saying that? I would love to read how he/she backs up their statements. emoticon emoticon



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A well balenced diet, like eating fruits and veggies and not eating sugary sweets and pop and surgar juices are really bad for your teeth.

Hey you also have to brush and floss your teeth.

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For the original query: I agree with RAWORGAICVEGAN........
non-meat eaters get ample protein and calcium
just fine from vegetable sources, specially nuts and greens.

For years my mother listened to and believed friends who told her my teeth
would fall out if I didn't eat meat! Strangely, she and all of her friends have
passed away, all of them without a single tooth remaining in their mouths!
Ah - thank goodness for denture manufacturers and fitters!

Please look up or google data on plant sources of calcium and protein.
You'll find one can thrive on a meatless diet. My health, particularly my
dental health have been excellent and actually quite improved since I
became a vegetarian 22 years ago.




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A poor diet can lead to bad teeth, whether or not you follow a plant based diet. If you track your nutrition and ensure you are getting all of your proper vitamins and nutrients, your teeth will be fine. Tooth decay in a vegan diet is motly attributable to not getting enough of the right nutrition. Well balanced meals will keep your teeth, and the rest of you, healthy.

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That's hogwash! Our jaws are not the same as a carnivorous animal. Our digestive systems are not short enough to digest and have meat move through fast enough before it putrifies, as in a carnivorous animal. Our teeth are not the same as in a carnivorous animal. It has nothing to do with our teeth not doing well if not eating meat. We are not carnivorous by nature. If so, as the old saying goes, we would salivate and down a living animal and eat it raw! Geesh the garbage that circulates!

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Some people swear by oil pulling for good teeth and gums amongst other things. There is a thread on this team about it: www.sparkpeople.com/myspark/team_mes
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in another group I read that when people had been on a vegan diet that didn't have ask much trouble, this was from people not a report

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I have read that vegans have a harder time with their teeth because man needs animal products in order to have good teeth. Of course I don't believe this but does anyone have any information on the subject?

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