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2/6/13 1:33 P

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Thanks PURPLEDRAGONM! I will try that suggestion.



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2/6/13 1:24 P

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LOKIVADE, I did find a product called Progesta Care Plus from the health food store and have been using it for the menopause symptoms and have been quite pleased with the results. I asked them for the Wild Yam cream & this is what that had that was comparable. Thanks so much for the suggestion. My family really appreciate it as well.

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2/6/13 1:22 P

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TOBEHEALTHY5, you might try blending half sugar, half stevia, gradually decreasing the sugar and increasing the stevia, so you slowly adjust to the flavor. I find now that I prefer the stevia! Although sometimes as a special treat I'll put one packet of Sugar in the Raw into iced tea along with the stevia, because it sits on the bottom of the glass, giving a crunchy sweetness as I sip.

Also, different brands have different flavors. Read the lables for additives other than stevia, though.

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2/6/13 1:10 P

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I found Sweet Leaf in the packets, it is 100% Natural Stevia Sweetener, but I am really having a hard time adjusting to the taste. I have tried just a half a packet in my coffee/tea but still find that there is an aftertaste. I am now just using flavored creamer in my coffee and no sweetener. I did buy a sugar/stevia blend for baking but haven't had a chance to try it yet. I am hoping that it will be better. Since eliminating splenda/aspartame from my diet I haven't been having the excruciating headaches anymore which is a plus. emoticon



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2/6/13 11:19 A

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I use a brand of Stevia called Stevia Sugar. It's made by New Roots and is spoonable like sugar. It's expensive, but a little goes a long way.. in Canada I pay around $12 for a 250g jar.
I find too much white sugar does make my fibro systems worse, so try and stay away from it as much as possible.

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1/28/13 9:52 A

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I may be diabetic, but I too stay away from artificial sweeteners--I don't use stevia either, for me it leaves a horrid aftertaste. Go figure.

If something needs to be sweetened, I use fruit like berries or applesauce (white grape juice works well too) or honey or sugar. Yes, white processed cane or beet sugar. It isn't an optimum choice, but it's at least predictable and I can compensate in other areas if I need to--and it's the best solution for a blood sugar crash-- other than prevention, of course, which isn't always possible...! LOL

Artificial sweeteners actually trigger a fibro flare-up. Always. So I don't go there.

It's something you need to research, and then decide for yourself...
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1/28/13 9:45 A

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It is a hard lesson to learn, but you cannot trust food or drug companies, or any company to have your health or your family's health in their interest. Their interest is money and how to best get it from you. So, you have to learn learn learn about everything that you put into the body and ON IT! You cannot be perfect in all decisions, but you have to make the best of what is available to you. Its a big switch to turn on in your brain after years of trusting, but hey, its your health and at least you got an eye opener now than not at all:-)

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1/28/13 7:44 A

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Thanks for the information! I'm so glad that we have these boards to communicate. You know I always thought that I was doing something good, didn't realize these foods were making my family sick. emoticon



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1/28/13 12:24 A

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I stopped using all artificial sweetners a few years ago. It was another step on my long quest to fight fibro symptoms. I believe it has helped, along with eating gluten free and focusing on mostly eating whole foods. I have to manage my fibro myself, because I, too, feel like the doctors all want to give me prescription drugs because they have no other answers. I think their intentions are good, but misguided. Masking symptoms doesn't cure the problem.

If I need sugar, as for baking (not that I bake much these days!) I use organically grown, fair trade, raw sugar. It's still sugar, but at least it's not highly processed. To sweeten tea or cereal I use stevia. "Stevia In The Raw" brand is my preference for commercially produced stevia. I also buy dried stevia leaves from Mountain Rose Herbs online, and often steep them with my tea instead of using the processed packets. The whole herb has more nutritional value than the processed powder.

Splenda doesn't have any immediate negative effects on me, but aspartame (Equal) gives me bladder spasms and muscle and joint pain. That is definitely a good incentive for me to avoid it!

I really do like the taste of the stevia now. Be aware that different brands can taste different, something to do with the processing and added dextrose or other sugar-like chemical. And using too much can leave a bitter aftertaste.

Sounds like you are on the right track. Also, you might want to get your vitamin D3 levels checked. We who have fibro often are low in D3, which can make all our symptoms worse. Low D3 can also make menopausal symptoms worse. Vitamin D is a hormone, and affects almost all body systems.

--Beth.

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1/27/13 7:26 P

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Thanks for the information!



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1/27/13 7:20 P

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Ack, I forgot to address your menopause question. I have had many clients (im an aromatherapist and otherwise holistic buff;-) You can take Wild Yam cream and rub a small amount on the inside of your thigh or tummy. Do this until you feel the symptoms start to subside. You may add a bit more every 2 weeks, but start about about the size of a nickel.
It helps to balance your hormones. Do some research on it and be careful to look that the sources are decent.


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1/27/13 7:10 P

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Hi - sorry I posted my initial reply off my husbands account! Ok, Stevia. Theres a few brands of it on the market, and yes Stevita has Stevia in it - but I havent had that. I am in Canada and its a fairly easy thing to find - even at walmart.
I drink herbal teas,avoid caffine, lots of water. No pop unless its a rye and coke on a weekend - I dont do Diet anything as the chemicals make me feel like crap. I use Stevia or honey to sweeten things when i get the craving - or I just have a piece of chocolate! (not a whole candy bar...lol)
You'll find that you will get used to not having sweet stuff. Its an addiction, and its not healthy for your weight, your immune system or your mental health. You have to look at sugar like you would smoking. Might enjoy it in the moment - but it will slowly make you feel crap, look crap and may, in fact kill you.
Also, for the Fibro, I take a product called MagSense. It has Magnesium and Malic Acid in it. So far it is the only thing that seems to take the pain down a few notches aside from Percacet. It tastes like crap, but I take it 2x a day and it so far, seems to work really really well. And for a friend of mine as well, although she only needs to take it 1x a day. Everyone is different.


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1/27/13 4:43 P

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Stevia, is that also known as Stevita? I have decided to try and forego all fat free and sugar free items to see if I start feeling any better. What types of beverages do you drink?



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Hi there,
They are all garbage, and a few i think illegal in Europe. (cause cancer and all sorts of crap!) I use Stevia powder. Its natural and has no carbs or such I think. but you only need a little tiny bit compared to sugar and also the little packets can get hard if u keep them in the kitchen. You can get it in liquid form too:-) Ive been using it for years for my family. I just get it in the health section of my grocery store.
Oh and anything fat free and low fat I find to be chemical sh*t storms. Bad and make me feel like crap. Better to eat the real stuff and moderate it.


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1/27/13 4:19 P

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I took Prempro for 5 years with no side affects other then I gained weight. I stay away from artificial sweeteners because they make my heart race.

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1/27/13 3:25 P

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I was diagnosed with Fibro 8 yrs. ago, weighing approximately 180 lbs. Since then I have been doing yoga and light exercises plus really started watching what I was eating choosing lower fat, fat free, sugar free options along with fruits and vegetables. Plus I drank green tea, water, coffee w/splenda packet and creamer, diet mountain dew with lunch or dinner (only one 8 ounce glass). Pretty much everything in moderation. I ended up between 132-138 lbs.
Now fast forward to the past year and I have also been diagnosed with menopause at age 45. I am super sensitive to prescription medicine. My gyno prescribed Prempro for the menopause because I had become so emotional and felt mentally unstable, in addition to the horrible night sweats and sleeplessness. The Prempro caused constipation, migraines and vertigo. So I have stopped taking that. Plus I am looking for natural supplements to help with the menopause. My husband just read an article about Artificial Sweetner Poisoning which the Fibro/Menopause/Sweetner Poisoning all have similar symptoms. I would love to hear what your opinions/suggestions are. I get really frustrated with doctors because I just feel like they are licensed drug pushers just getting us hooked on the latest greatest medicine that causes tons of side effects to what we already have.



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