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8/6/13 1:32 P

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There is a large difference in processed foods. Making pasta out of whole wheat flour is minimally processing it. Taking skim milk and using hydrochloric or sulphuric acid to produce whey protein powder is much more processing than I am willing to use. That is what happens with most protein powders. They are highly processed, even if they contain "natural ingredients" often NOT listed are the chemicals used in the processing. Another example is something used by vegans all of the time: TVP (textured vegetable protein) Seems pretty safe on the surface. Dried soybeans made into a powder and then made into textured protein chunks, bits or pieces that can be rehydrated in foods such as chili. But when you look into them you will find that in the processing they use HEXANE gas and an acid wash to "extract the soy protein isolates." And do I want the residue of hexane gas and acid in my body.....uh... No thank you.

I looked up the process of "extracting the pea protein" from the pea....... How do they do that, I wonder? I wouldn't mind if it was peas made into a powder. That seems natural to me. Extracting the pea's DNA seems somewhat unnatural to me. I suspect that they have to use chemicals to do that so I will eat the real food instead.

I notice a trend here..... whenever "they" have to "extract the protein" chemicals I don't like come into play. I don't need chemists to help me eat. I just need farmers.

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8/5/13 3:09 P

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Hi - I just joined here. Sometimes a protein drink in the morning is the only to go. I found one by accident through the Fat Flush site. Even though I don't follow that diet the protein shake was an great change from the Whey I was using when I couldn't do dairy anymore. It's made from rice & pea powder. (dairy and gluten free)

The shake is easy. Sounds a little complicated at first, but I make it in 4 minutes flat. It's made with whole cranberry juice (the straight stuff!) 1 oz to 7 oz water. I keep a 32 oz mixture of this in the fridge anyhow. 1 cup of that in a blender.

A scoop of the protein powder, 1 Tbls Flax oil (I use the oil with extra lignans and Vit D), 1 cup frozen berries(80 cal), and a TBL of Chia seeds (1 tbsp, Calories: 60, Fat: 3g, Carbs: 5g, Protein: 3g.).

About 440 calories total and 23 grams of protein. Keeps my blood sugar even all morning. Hope this helps.

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8/5/13 2:53 P

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Try the trial-sized RAW from Garden of Life, too. That's my fave. :D

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8/5/13 11:44 A

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Thanks everyone for your input. While I agree it's best to get your protein from whole food sources, I am looking to supplement what I am already consuming. I have difficulty with under-eating and am working to correct it, and am looking for something that'll add an extra 'oomph' to my breakfast smoothies or oatmeals before class this fall.

I've heard great things about Trader Joe's products, but sadly, there's none down here where I live. Vega also I've heard good things about, and I saw some trial sizes of their smoothies at Whole Foods yesterday when I went on a scouting mission.

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8/4/13 6:32 P

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Although I agree that a whole foods, "real food" based diet is ideal, I also say, "define 'real food' and go from there."

Is it "real food" if it comes in a package? I buy bags of organic quinoa and consider it "real." I also purchase whole grain pastas and consider them "real." If a protein powder is made from all real, whole ingredients, why would it be any less of a whole, real food? Are sprouted seeds good for you? If you dry the sprouted seeds, are they still a positive health benefit? What if you grind them?....

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8/4/13 10:45 A

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I usually only do protein shakes after a run or workout but the one I had been using is the unsweetened Spiru-Tein vanilla which is pretty good (the chocolate flavor is a bit thick and doesn't blend as easily). Yesterday I tried Garden of Life Raw Protein vanilla and I liked it a lot. I usually add some chia and or hemp seeds to my shakes, and I use almond milk instead of water.
The nice thing about some of these powders is that you can often buy individual serving sizes so you can try them without buying a large expensive container that ends up sitting in the back of your cabinet.
Some people believe you should only consume food and not resort to protein powders; but if you're having issues with eating you need to get nutrition somewhere. Do whatever works for you. ~Pam

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8/4/13 9:19 A

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I sometimes add some plain whey protein powder when I make flat bread.

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8/4/13 7:31 A

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I really like Vega Sport by Sequel Naturals in Vanilla. I add it to my morning smoothie. It's vegan and soy-free.

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8/3/13 9:53 P

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I've only tried a few. What I currently use and love is Trader Joe's Chocolate Whey Protein Power.
I love that it mixes easily and doesn't glop up. The directions are to mix it with 1/2 cup water but I use 1 cup (it just makes it seem like more:) you can also mix it with milk.

I like the taste but then it's all individual. I don't use it every day, maybe every other day.

16 oz. container for about $11.00 (14 servings)
Cals: 130
Fat: 2g.
Carb: 11g.
Sugars: 9g.
Protein: 17g.

I found this (short) on YouTube
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfHvB
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A lot of us for whatever reasons can't always get our daily amounts of protein in so I don't see anything wrong with using protein powders.


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8/3/13 9:41 P

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I have not tried protein powders. I guess I never thought of using them.
But, do what works for you.

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8/3/13 9:28 P

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I agree with Bilby4 that real food, especially raw, is the best practice. I used to juice kale with other veggies and fruit before work so that I had a quart to keep me going through to dinner time. Then I would eat a meal of lowfat greens, beans, and grains. I felt great and was losing weight. I am recently returned from a prolonged stay in health facilities after having a sarcoma removed from my hip and am not very mobile yet. I 'cheat' the breakfast challenge by using a protein smoothie in the morning. I use the Vega mixes that come in affordable 9.9 oz bags. They are non-dairy, gluten & soy free, and have no sugar added. I use the berry flavored one, but add frozen banana and berries along with almond milk and a pinch of Saigon cinnamon and/or vanilla extract. Usually, I also add Green Magma Plus so I cover all my veggie bases without actually prepping all those veggies myself. :) My favorite flavor, however, is the Choc-a-lot flavor, to which I only add a frozen banana, almond milk, and strong coffee. Both smoothie flavors are filling and have 11 grams of protein. Until I get my juicing mojo back, I'm sticking with the Vega flavors. The 9.9 oz bags are often on sale at Vitacost. And no, I don't work for Vega or Vitacost! I've tried other mixes (Sun Warrior, Manatoba Harvest, Garden of Life RAW, etc.), but personally find Vega to be delicious and easy to prepare. It mixes without lumps even if you just shake it by hand. Plus you don't have to purchase it in 55 gallon drums for an arm and a leg. Your mileage may vary!

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8/3/13 8:23 P

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No. My opinion of protein powders and other supplements is that they are a last resort. If you don't base your diet around food, real food, you're putting yourself in a tough position from the start.

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I do! I love Garden of Life's RAW proteins. They're made from sprouted seeds, grains, & beans. My favorite breakfast is a smoothie with RAW protein, fresh-ground flax, and fruit-of-the-day. I just use water as the liquid, since the other ingredients get me up to around 275-325 calories.

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8/3/13 6:09 P

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I'd love to get people's opinions of protein powders? I'd like to start putting together a morning shake before I head off to class - I don't usually eat in the mornings because it tends to upset my stomach a little - and would like to boost my protein consumption. I've been looking at them, but they're so pricey to drop that much money without knowing whether it sucks or not.

Do any of you use them, and if so, what flavours and brands? I'd love to find a good chocolate one. Any input would be appreciated - thanks!

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