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3/15/10 11:57 A

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Thank you all! Great points! I like my oranges as fruit, so I'll go ahead and eat them.

True, I doubt any of us ended up overweight by eating too many oranges! I probably ate too many refined foods and maybe drank too many calories.

Great discussion though, especially about blending the oranges. I never thought about that.

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3/13/10 10:25 A

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Well said Veggieyogini!

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3/13/10 8:42 A

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My feeling is that as long as we are eating fresh, ripe, local and/or Organic fruits, vegetables, and leafy greens, we are getting the nutrition that our bodies need whether it is juiced, blended or eaten whole (steamed or raw). Oranges, especially Organic (Valencia) are good for us. Don't worry about the quantity of "good for you" local/Organic fruits, vegetables and leafy greens.

Certain individuals with poor digestion must intake the nutrients without the fiber for a time until they can handle the fiber intake. Others of us who are young and hearty can handle eating a lot of fiber right away.

For those of us who are overweight, such as myself, it's not due to over-eating of healthy oranges, I assure you. It's due to eating refined flour products, sweets, cheese, salty, high fat and salty snacks and high fat cooked foods.

Please keep eating your oranges - whole (w/o the skin) as is or juiced in your home blender. It really scares me when I hear people focusing in on the caloric value of good for you fruit and vegetables. Eat for health, exercise a lot and you'll automatically begin to lose the weight.

It's scaring me that people are looking at the caloric values of eating one form of fruit over another. It's hard enough to stay away from the sweets, salty and high fat foods, soda and the like. And we're quibbling over calories consumed from eating oranges in their natural state versus juiced or blended. Yikes!

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3/13/10 3:45 A

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Fruit is better as rightly said by Coach Nicole.

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3/12/10 4:30 P

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Thanks IV.

I thought so I do have the Jack LaLanne one. I need to dig it out it's been collecting dust for over 5 years.
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Many available juicers extract all of the fiber so you don't get all of the nutrition and fiber.(Jack LaLanne) If you use a blender/juicer (Vitamix) you can put all of the fruit, seeds peel and all into the blender and drink all of the fruit.

I have them both and don't use the Jack LaLanne.


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Just wondering when you mean juicing the orange are you just removing the juice from the orange and throwing the orange peel away or are you Juicing the whole orange?

If you put the whole orange in the juicer you will get all of the fiber from the orange. IMO

That's the best thing, also best to use Organic Oranges to prevent getting the pesticides.

I did read the article but I think most just squeeze the juice out of a half cut orange and throw the rest away losing the fiber.

Just a thought. Also the other opinions are correct.


Edit: the rind will make the juice more bitter that's the only down fall.


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I would question the resource that tell you not to eat fruits.

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3/12/10 2:58 P

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I share the same sentiments. Juice isn’t necessarily bad, but does have more calories and not as nutritious as the fruit can be. A caveat is that as a vegan, some juices can be good for you, as they can be fortified with calcium and vitamin A or D. But you can get that from other sources. In addition, you have to read labels carefully when buying juice, as many have added preservatives and sugars. Like Nicole, I also never drink juice, except for the rare occasion when I use my own juicer. I think overall, I support the fruit over the juice.

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3/12/10 2:53 P

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I used to drink more juice, but now I go for the fruit. I want the fiber! If you are not getting enough vitamins, then maybe juice. Otherwise, I would go for whole fruit.

From Columbia University Health Services:

Dear Alice,

Are juicers as good as whole fruit?

— Joyful Juicer




Dear Joyful Juicer,

That depends on your reason for asking — Alice isn't sure what you mean by "as good" and what your motivation for juicing is.

Usually, juicers extract the juice and some pulp from fruits and/or vegetables. If you've made juice, you know that it takes a lot of fruit to make a container of juice. We do get all of the vitamins, minerals, beneficial plant chemicals (phytochemicals), and carbohydrates in juice that's juiced out of a whole fruit. But we don't get much of the fiber — that's the part that aids our digestive process, fills us up, and may help protect us against certain cancers. Fiber in fruit is found in the membranes between sections, the white part around the outside (as in oranges and grapefruits), the seeds, the skin, and the peels. Even if juice contains pulp, it usually doesn't contain all of these fibrous parts.

Juice is not a low calorie drink. An eight ounce glass of orange juice contains 110 calories — the equivalent of two oranges (each contains about 60 calories). We don't feel as filled up from juice because it doesn't contain any fiber. For many people, drinking a caloric beverage, such as juice, isn't as satisfying as eating the same amount of calories in food. For those of us who need to increase caloric intake — such as athletes, children, or teens — juice is a GREAT choice.

Fresh juice is certainly tasty and an excellent source of many nutrients. Less stable vitamins, such as vitamin C, are not compromised in fresh juice as they may be in some processed varieties. If you are replacing fresh juice for beverages such as sodas and fruit drinks (which may be low in actual juice), and you can afford the calories, Alice says "GO FOR IT!" Otherwise, moderation is the key.

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Juice may have a higher concentration of vitamin C than a full orange, but it is WAY higher in calories and missing the bulk, filling power and fiber of a real orange. If you're watching your calories especially, go with whole fruit instead of juice--more filling power, still tons of nutrients, and all the fiber you won't get from juice.

Personally, I never drink juice. I'd rather eat my calories than drink them. :-)

Hopefully that helps,

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3/12/10 2:44 P

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Hello-
I've read that we should just eat whole fruit rather than drink juice because you get more bang for the buck in calories for nutrition.

Now, I've read the opposite. I read that we should drink OJ and not eat a whole orange.

Needless to say, I'm a bit confused. Help! I like oranges and used to eat them often, but now I'm confused and haven't touched them.

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