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Thanks, i'll do that

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This would be a great question as a new thread for the team. I think more people would see it then, and you might have better luck finding someone who uses it.

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Has anyone used the "run les run faster" training method? I would like to use this but am not sure if increased mileage or faster training paces is more effective.

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That is awesome - congratulations on your decision to run a full.

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In the spirit of putting it in writing. I am running my 1st full marathon in May. It will be the Kalamazoo Marathon. I did the Kalamazoo half last year so I am ready for all of the hills. I begin run camp today and I am sooooo excited!!!

The temp is 26 this morning with about 6 inches of snow. I have my cold gear pants and smartwool socks and 3 layers on top. I think I'm ready

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Putting it in writing is a great step towards achieving your goal. Go for it!!!

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Ok...I am 99.9% certain I am signing up for a half-marathon on March 1. I was going to follow Hal Higdon's plan and just extend it since it is set up for 12 weeks. By the time the race hits, I will have over a year of running consistently, which is something I thought I would never say actually...My mother is signed up along with our family friend, so I will have training partners for some of the long runs.

Time to dive into research and actually register. I just wanted to put it into writing to make it official! emoticon


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You have a year to build a good base for your half, and to increase your distance gradually. Congratulations on making a stretch goal, and having friends along will make it that much more fun.

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My friends and I will be running our first half marathon in one year! We are pumped! We ran our first 5k as a mud run with some pretty awesome obstacles, but are a bit intimidated to think we might actually run a 1/2 marathon!


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Ah shucks - thank you! I love that you are celebrating with your wife, in such a great healthy way.

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Hi Judi!
Just wanted to give a shout out and tell you that I've been reading this forum and it's so valuable. I did my first HM in Feb (St Pete Inaugural RnR), doing a lot of 5Ks, gonna extend to 10Ks in Sept, pssibly a Halloween HM, and definitely the Space Coast Half with DW for our 15th Anniversary. I'm always looking for good info and am finding all kinds of great tips. So, I'm asking all of you out there to keep posting. I plan on doing a lot more HMs in the fall Many thanks...
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Are you eating enough? After every week of increases, you should be updating your nutrition goals. As you increase your mileage, you will need to fuel correctly.

As for what to eat, given your restrictions, it may be very worthwhile to get an appointment with a dietician or nutritionist - preferably one who also runs.

And since this thread is very quiet, I ask that you post this as a new thread on our team's message board. You may get better advise there.

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I have been training for a 1/2 marathon. Its a big goal of mine this year . I am up to running 12-15 miles per week now. I am in my 3rd week of training. I am so hungry all the time. Any advice? I can't do protein shakes and i have a bladder disease that limits me to certain foods and I eat dairy and gluten free. Any suggestions would be great. I want to start fueling my body with what it needs. Thanks so much



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I like to have a distraction when I'm on the treadmill too. Hubby finally bought me a pair of earphones to wear so I don't have to have the sound of the tv louder than the treadmill. That was a great purchase, for the whole household!


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Thanks Cassioepia, yeah, my bout with pneumonia wiped out my speed, when I first started back to running in February, I started really slow, so I should be gauging my progress from there, because that is really motivating! Patience, patience, patience!

I did my week 2 day 1 run today, 2 miles on the treadmill. 30 minutes and done, watched CSI while I ran, what a wonderful distraction. The time just flew by, not like yesterdays run when I felt like I was dying!

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I would like to start training to walk 5K again, try to get my time under 62 minutes this time.

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I love the 10k distance - it's my favorite, so good luck for your 10k in July.

When you say you are frustrated with your slow pace, is it because of the pneumonia, and what it did to your lungs over winter? It may take some time to get your lungs up to speed, so to speak.

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I am currently training towards a 10K on July 3, which I am using for a stepping stone to training for a Marathon November 16 of this year. I ran a HM last April, and continued to run after that, but took four months off leading up to mid February due to pneumonia. It has been a slow and tedious return to running, and I have found myself getting frustrated and disappointed with my slow pace. Not going to give up though, and I am really excited to be making any progress at all!

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I would like to start training to walk 5K again, try to get my time under 62 minutes this time.

I am 5 feet 5 inches tall.

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you pick the days you want to run. That's what's so great about the program. I know some that will run on Tues, Thurs and Sat one week and the other days the next week. Experiment with it and see what days are best for you. The days are not set in stone.

good luck!

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Thank You! :) I'll join the 8 Week Program. I also swim twice a week, on Monday and Wednesday, should I run on those days? I have a tight schedule on Tuesday because of college and Friday is also complicated because that's the day I travel home and I usualy don't have time to exercise. Thanks for all the help!

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You could join one of Spark People's Spark Your Way to a 5k Team.
There is Rookie Running 8 week program (I co-lead that one)
A 4 week walk/run program
or a 4 week walk program

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Hello! I haven't started following any specific plan altough I was considering a 5 week program from the 5k Race. I don't know if that is a good idea though.

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Hi Leokid. Are you following a training plan to start running?

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I'm going to start running next week. I already swim twice a week. Tips for training time, nutrition etc?

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If you are already working out five days a week, you should be fine to run three days and cross train the other two. Sept 18th is quite a ways away, and you should have sufficient time to train for the half. I would recommend a five percent increase in weekly mileage, and a recovery week every fourth week (no increase).

As for rest days, aim for a couple each week. The cross train days should be low impact, swimming and biking are excellent choices.

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From everything I've read, I think it's more about rest for your muscles rather than rest for you! Generally the idea of cross training is to work muscles that aren't primarily used in running; either totally different muscles or supporting muscles. I think this is more important as you train for longer distances, and certainly the pros do a lot of cross training! I'm a bit of a newb on this too, but I think it's a rest from *running* that your leg muscles need, so as long as you do other activities on "rest" days, you won't risk overtraining.

Personally... I've had knee and ankle injuries in the past and been told by doctors that I have (almost verbatim) freakishly loose ligaments in some of my joints, making me more injury-prone... so for me, every day I'm not running, I'm strength training. That's pretty essential for me, as weak muscles have caused injuries in the past.

That said, some people run and strength train on the same days. I think it's more about personal preference... for me, a run is enough for one day! But I think the bottom line is really just letting those leg muscles have a day off, despite whatever else you do on "off" days.



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Having last run regularly in basic training (14 years ago... wow, has it really been that long), I fell out of it quickly. So, now I'm running a 5k for the "first" time (it may as well be!). I've committed to a half-marathon on September 18th.

To train, I'm sticking with 3 running days per week and upping my mileage 10% each week (or as my body allows). I've got one hill or speedwork day, one longer mileage day, and one easy day each week. I'm starting strength training (upper, lower, and core 1 day each per week) next week. My question for you is: what about cross training? I know it's important. I've heard that cross training on non-running days is what you should aim for; on the other hand, I think I just read today in the SP articles that you don't want to cross-train on a prescribed rest day. I'm confused on this. Any thoughts?

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another person on a different site called Daily MIle--says she chews gum on her run because of dry mouth! Just thought I would put that info out there--have never triedit myself--I am the oppisite when I am running long run I always have to spit a few time TMI but it's true!emoticon


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For my last marathon, Rock 'n' Roll Las Vegas, I did the three runs per week plan. However, this time around, I'm training with the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society's Team in Training program. They provide coaches and clinics. So, I have a customized plan right now. I LOVE it!

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Claire, good luck with this one. Which plan are you following? I clicked on the one with three runs per week.

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IZZY Another great resource is Hal Higdon's website. If you visit the link below, you'll see to the left of the page there's another tab for training programs. Click that and you'll be taken to an entire page of numerous training plans; beginner 5K programs all the way up Boston bound marathon training programs. They're great schedules and I actually just followed one for my most recent 26.2

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CASSIOEPIA Sorry I'm only now getting back to you. My event is May 21st. It's the Ogden Marathon out here in Utah. It's a Boston Qualifier...though I can't even IMAGINE ever qualifying. I'm just in it to cross the finish line, no matter how long it takes me. Still, it would be nice to finish a little bit quicker this race. I've been working hard!

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Izzy, if you google "training plans for runners", you will get lots to choose from. If you are looking for a free one, try the Smart Coach on the Runner's World website. It is pretty good for a first time, if you need something to follow. I've even used it during non-training times, just so I can have some structure (I tend to need something to check off).

Here is a link to it:

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You may have to register to use the site, but it is free once you get in there.

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Hello all
I loaded myself up this year with 5K, 10K and a metric marathon. The longest I have ever ran is about 8 miles doing the Baltimore Marathon Team Relay. I am not sure how to train for a long run considering I havent really trained properly for all my other runs in the past. Im a little heavier now than last year and want to drop some pounds. I run about a 10 min mile. Any advice on how to train? websites? I also do spin class 2x a week and that has helped with endurance. Thanks


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When is your event?

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Hey team! New to the group. I'm currently training for my 3rd full marathon and this will be my second event with Team in Training. I'm a VERY slow runner/jogger but I've been doing lots of speedwork and strength training this time around. I'm hoping for a PR!

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Just signed up for a half on May 29th. Anyone else training for the coming months??

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Hello all....I'm new to both the team and running! I completed my first 5K in April of '10 and will be participating in my first hald April of '11. I haven't done too much running since the 5K and am willing to do whatever it takes to make myself stronger and able to do this....any advice anyone should have would be appreciated!! :)

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Hello all! I'm a reborn runner! Haven't done any in a few years but am back on the wagon and training for my first HM in February! My friend and I will be doing the Disney Princess HM! I'm excited and hope I don't kill myself in the process. At this point, I can run just one full mile but I have my first 5K in 3 years on the 28th of this month so we'll see how I do. Trying to get back into my rythm and hoping to find some great support here!

Good luck to all my fellow HM runners!!! :)


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Are you running any hills in your steady weekly runs now? If not, I would add one day of hill work to that plan (not an extra day, but using one of your current days). Otherwise, those hills may do some damage to your psyche come race day!

If the hills don't get you mentally, that 10 miler would be a great warm-up race for the first half marathon.

As for the Oct 17th half, I think it may be a bit ambitious, with only three weeks between. Make it a goal for next year, when you are regularily running those distances. Right now, you are still building your mileage up to the HM level.

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Welcome back, DJD!

Ok, now that I'm within 3k of the HM distance, I'm getting excited about it... I know this question has been asked MANY times before, so sorry about that! Either I wasn't paying attention or the answer hasn't sunk in...

How close together is too close together to run HM's? The next couple of months are like this:

Aug 28
The Crim 10 miler (and, a few hills. Possibly big hills!) Actually registered for this one!

Sept 26
Toronto Waterfront HM - 'flat and fast' (and very close to home!)

October 17th
Detroit HM (crossing the international border twice! Once over the Ambassador bridge!)

Is this too many? I've been running a year and my distance has been a steady 5k/8k/10k every week for 4-5 months. Any thoughts?

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Hi everyone! I just wanted to stop in and say hi! I have been team member for a long time but have never been active. I think I am going to try to check in more often though.

I decided on a whim last month to sign up for my first HM and am working my butt off to get myself where I need to be. I am enjoying reading back through other's questions and answers.

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Hi Simone, and welcome to the group.

A great way to be invovled in a half marathon, without running it, is to volunteer. You can work at one of the aid or water stations along the way, or at package pick up, or even cleaning cups afterwards. It's a blast to help out, and a great way to give back to the sport. Contact the organizers - I'm sure they would love to hear from you.

Great to hear that you have your heart condition under control now. Going for a few 5k races, and then 10k races, is a good idea when considering training for the half. Great experience!

Let us know if there is anything we can help out with.

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Hi, I'm new to this group, but wanted to chime in because I hope to train for a HM soon.

I live in Santa Barbara and considered trying to train for the HM here in November, but I'm recovering from some medical issues (heart procedure in May) and have a tendency to overdo it, so instead I'll cheer on the runners. So Emily, if you're one of them, I'll be there cheering you on!

At this point I'm only running 2 miles at a time, but I'm progressing quickly now that my heart is working efficiently. I suppose I should do a few 5K and 10K races before shooting for a HM, but I have big goals! emoticon

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Great advice, Cassie. Thanks so much! :-)

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If you are going to continue on with the marathon training plan, then a half in September won't be too much, but likely right around where your long run distances are anyway. And with several weeks left over to recover, you could race it or run it as a training run. If it were me, and I had never run the marathon distance before, I would just run the HM as a training run, and not worry too much about recovery weeks afterwards. If you plan on *race* pace, then you will likely need to recover afterwards.

It's likely a very good fit in with your plan though.

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Thanks Cassie. I tried contacting the SBIM to switch to a HM but got an auto-email saying they got my email and it was on queu as there were lots of inquiries also.

As for the long runs I'm doing ok with the 3k. Today was a 5k and I was able to run it straight without walking (although 10 min over the specified time)! That felt like a real breakthrough. I feel more motivated to continue with the marathon training and see how things go. There's a HM
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Hi Emily. Welcome back. The SmartCoach program is the one I used to train for my first two half marathons. I found the speed sessions excessive, for where I was at the time. If you are thinking of not running only for the reason that you can't run that fast during your speed sessions, I wouldn't worry about it. How are you doing with your long runs?

It's very hard to lose weight while in training for a long distance event. In fact, many people actually gain weight -- which is actually the body's response to training (holding extra water, gaining muscle, etc). People have run the marathon distance successfully at your weight and beyond.

My concern at this point is that you may be trying to do too much too soon, and risking injury. Listen to your body as you go through this training period.

One thought is that you could contact the Santa Barbara International Marathon, and see if there is a distance you can switch to. Go for the HM now and work up to the Marthon in the spring.

Good luck with your trianing. I wish you all the best.

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Hi Cass i don't remember what I wrote and took back, either (Apr 18 post). Haven't been active in SP lately.

Last July I did something crazy. I signed up and paid for the Santa Barbara International Marathon. This will be my first 42k. I've been following the Smart Coach running program of Runnersworld but I don't feel confident at all. I've been running off and on but I can't seem to run 3k@8:38 as my program suggests. Does this mean I shouldn't run the marathon? I've also gained some weight even if I've cut down on rice, sweets, bread and pasta. Been eating more vegetables and fruits these last couple of weeks but I still gained weight. It's so frustrating. Should I run the marathon at my present weight of 168 lbs?

p.s. i've been run a couple of 5k's and 10k's before but only resumed running last june.



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Hey there Mike! Thanks for the pat on the back. My orthotics came in late May, and I think I can say I struggle with them. They haven't really helped me to feel more comfortable. However, I bought a Strassburg sock a few weeks ago that began helping with the pain immediately, and last week I went for my first Reflexology treatment which has also helped.

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Cassie - you are so great taking care of this thread - you give great advice! you are my rock! thanks so much. I hope your fett are doing better and wil be running with us soon my friend. did you get fitted for some Orthodics yet?


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NICAZZ - what amounts have you run so far, and what is your running history? Before I offer some advise, I'd really like to know the answers to those questions.

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NICAZZ-Are you following a program to get your miles/endurance up by September? There are alot of good programs out there to help you ramp up slowly and get there in that amount of time.

Regarding dry mouth - here's what I am now doing that works for me; 2 large glasses of water at least one hour before my run and a long lasting breath mint about 10 minutes before I go out (I like the ones from Starbucks). I used to think I had no problem with hydration since I sip water all day long but once I started setting my target on full glasses of water, I realized I wasn't properly hydrated by sipping all day.

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Is it a mistake to train for a half before I can run a 10k (or 5k for that matter)comfortably? I signed up for a half in September, and I'm finding the long training runs very hard. I know it's not supposed to be easy, but I'm wondering if it's a good idea to keep going when I don't have a good base built up yet. Should I just concentrate on running shorter distances ocmfortably first?

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You dry-mouthers - are you mouth breathing? If so, try the swish & spit thing now and then when you're running. It might help a little. It sounds like you're starting out a little on the dehydrated side.

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Hi All,

I am training for a 10k on July 10th but the group I run with now are training for the half that day. After reading through this thread, I'm thinking about changing from the 10k to the half. I learn so much here...THANK YOU for that!!

I also have the "dry mouth" issue right at the get-go so, if anyone has a suggestion, let me know?

Just fyi; joining the running group was one of the best things I've done for my running. A few reasons -it makes me push a bit harder, go a little longer, run in different places, different surfaces, safety in groups and most important, just like this group, the support and encouragement is amazing.

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Thanks for the update! My co-worker also told me that brushing my teeth prior to my run, may be drying my mouth out.




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That would be the first thing to try (drinking more before going out). You don't want to drink so much that you feel 'sloshy', but after a night of sleeping, you are very likely in need of fluids.

Another thing to make sure of, is to have a glass of water before going to bed.

If this doesn't help, please post a new thread. I have never experienced the 'dry mouth' but there are others who have. They may have more tips to share than I can offer here.

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Any tips for dry mouth, it almost seems to happen to me the second I start running, I tried gum but it seems to make me nauseous after awhile.

Am I not drinking enough water beforehand as I generally run in the morning about twenty minutes after I wake up.


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With the heat and humidity that comes with summer, don't be afraid to start carrying water with you even on the shorter runs. Some days it does not take long to get dehydrated.

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I start carrying my water now (fuel belt) on my long runs b/c they are over an hour. Plus I can put my cell in there in case of an emergency since I run farther away from home. I think I look weird wearing it butI don't care, I need it!

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I'll give it a try. My neighbor just recommended a bra that she thinks has super comfy straps. I might pick one up and try that on my short runs this week.

Can't believe Broad Street is next weekend already. Finished my 8 miles feeling pretty good so now I'll just hope to trust to the training and adrenaline of the race to get me through to the 10 mile finish line!

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Some people use Vaseline, but I would recommend getting yourself some "Body Glide". It looks like a stick of deodorant that you can apply any where there is chafing.

Also, you might look into buying a piece of "moleskin". Place it between the bra and the red area. I buy it at drug stores - not sure if the running stores would have it or not, but they likely would.

Great job on the weight loss. So often you hear of people gaining a little while in training for distance races.

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Back for more advise! Did my last long training run today, 8 miles. Wore my new shirt and hat, tried Gue for the first time (wow is that thick) and all went well except my tried and true sports bra. I chaffed the heck out of my shoulder and under my arm. I've lost some weight in the last month and its a little looser then it used to be but the next size down is too small. Any suggestions on what to do for the chaffing?

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Okay Emily, now I'm wondering what you wrote and took back emoticon

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I just finished my 1st HM with a time of 2:28.11 check out my blog, Was a great feeling

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Carrying water, becomes more of a "day" decision than a "distance" decision, especially over the summer months. You really need to watch the temperature AND the humidity factor. On the hotter and more humid days out there, you may not want to be going even more than 20 minutes without some water.

If you are out there for an hour though, it's for sure time to start carrying water. At this point, I start thinking about fuel as well. Do you have something to try out? Part of the training process is figuring out what to take for fuel with you, as not everything works for everyone.

Personally, I like the Sport Beans. They are very portable, and I have been known to use them as mini-rewards for finishing kilometers :) However, many people find that they bother their stomachs.

Don't be discouraged if you take a few weeks before finding the right one for you. It's all a part of training, to find the right one before race day!

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Just finished week 5 and though I am only half way to the total distance (10 mile race in May)I'm starting to feel as if I might actually make it! I'm up to 5 miles which takes me just under an hour. At what point, distance or time, do you start thinking about carrying water on your runs?

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My computer was on the fritz last weekend - sorry I didn't check back in until now - it's been a crazy long week.

I look at the training programs that don't go the full distance before race day, in this way:

1) You increase by no more than 10% per week. In that final week (or two weeks), you are in taper and running less miles. So you can safely add those extra miles on race day, without going over the 10% rule.

2) You run your longest training run as a LSD run (Long Slow Distance), and those training runs should be run slower, since you are increasing distance. But during race day, you will be running at a faster speed. So the "time on your feet" during the race won't be too much more than the "time on your feet" on your longest training run.

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There are also training plans that *do* go over the distance. One I can think of is the F.I.R.S.T. program (you can google it). But for beginner programs, you don't *need* to go farther than the distance before your first race. Once you have a few races under your belt, and feel like that distance is comfortable for you, you can look into running *past* the distance. But for now, just keep following the program.

Best wishes as you continue your training!
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That's actually a great way to look at it. Thanks Ashley!

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Hi BIPPA2002, I followed Hal Higdon's half marathon training program last year. I forget the actual reason you don't go the full distance but I think the philosophy is so that you don't 'over train'. I followed his schedule and actually, the most I ran before the half was only 10 miles and on race day it was a great feeling--knowing that each step after the 10 mile mark was further than I had ever ran before. It was great motivation for me :)


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Good advice..thanks! I think I'll try bumping up the numbers slightly over the next few weeks. If I could get to within a mile I think I'll feel much more confident on race day.

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Oh yeah, that is a tough one! Maybe you should post the question as its own topic in the discussion forum. I'm sure you'll get some good info from more experienced runners there.

If it were my plan, I'd do a bump up soon and see if I could keep going up from there, maybe aiming for the final distance ON race day. But like I said, plenty of runners I know do the race as their first time at the distance.

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Yes, I think 2 miles is significant. That's why I'm wondering why someone would develop a training plan that doesn't take you the full distance before race day. With 7 weeks left till race day is it better to just keep going with the program or try and adjust up the miles? Open to any suggestions....thanks!

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I don't know if it's actually advisable, but I know several people who had never run the full distance of their race before race day. But, I run in km's - isn't the difference between 8miles and 10miles pretty significant??

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Happy Sunday to everyone!

I have been running for a year with my longest "long run" only 4.5 miles. I have a good friend who encouraged me to sign up for the Broad Street run in Philadelphia May 2nd. It's not quite a half marathon, only 10 miles...but yikes...what was I thinking?! I am on week 4 of my training and the long runs start going up by about a mile a week. I'm following Hal Higdon's 15K training program but it only gets me to 8 miles before race day. So here's the question...should I up the miles so that I actually run 10 miles prior to the race? Is is possible to run a race longer then you've ever run in training? Help...starting to get very nervous about what I have gotten myself into!

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3/12/10 10:58 A

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Yay for CDN SAHM Scrappers!! Woohoo!
I peeked at your profile and saw a Jay's game pic! I'm a GTA girl myself (905)

Kirsten
Peterborough, Ontario

si matris est non gauisus nemo est gauisus
(translation: if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!)


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3/12/10 9:06 A

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kirsten - thanks, i like my name too... there are far too many jennifers and stephanies, etc out there. yay for unique names (my daughter's name is henry!).
i'm a canadian stay at home mom scrapbooker too!
as for the tips, thanks for the wealth of information. i have the nike+ sensor, and use it every time i run to log my time/distance, but i wasn't even aware that they had training programs. so i will definately check that one out because i already have a profile and all the tools!

PB races:
5K ~ 11/25/12 ~ 31'58
10K ~ 4/28/13 ~ 67'55
Half Marathon ~ 10/20/13 ~ 2:29:52


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3/11/10 7:49 P

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Hi Anika - love your name! I named my dd Annika.

Anyhoo, I like this one: i.timeinc.net/health/i/20070102/beginning.
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from Health Magazine. It focuses on time rather than distance.

I started out by taking the Cool Running program: www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_4/144.shtml


...modified it for my schedule and when I have classes and so on. I also joined the HM training thingy on the Nike+ site. It turns out that 'in real life' I come closest to accomplishing the Nike+ schedule. This happens because I'll go for an extra run with a buddy, or switch a run because of a class and so on...

In the end, I'm increasing my distance by an average of 1km per week on my long runs, even though I'll sometimes stay with the same LSD for two weeks and bump up by two the next week. Does that make any sense?



Kirsten
Peterborough, Ontario

si matris est non gauisus nemo est gauisus
(translation: if momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!)


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HENRYNOLAN
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3/11/10 7:02 P

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cassiopia - thanks for the tip - i love free!
i have yet to ever blog before, but this could definately be my start
anika

PB races:
5K ~ 11/25/12 ~ 31'58
10K ~ 4/28/13 ~ 67'55
Half Marathon ~ 10/20/13 ~ 2:29:52


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