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3/9/13 3:54 P

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I guess by the definitions here, I'm fighting emotional rather than compulsive eating - but I'm struggling. I need to do intimidating paperwork for my son's financial aid applications for college next year, and I have somehow done everything BUT those forms all day. I didn't blow my food intake, but I really wanted to.

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3/4/13 9:30 P

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It seems to me that not all emotional eating comes from "negative" emotions. Happy eating may come from a sense of well-being, not a wish to defeat or do oneself in or lock the demons out, but to celebrate, have a party. For people who tend to pack on the pounds, it's simply a mischosen means of celebrating. A better celebration with fun outcome could be to rearrange
the furniture, light sparklers or candles, or dance a minuet while singing Hava Nagila.

Interesting question, Nomi. I'll bet it's never come up before.

Laurie

Edited by: SYLPHINPROGRESS at: 3/4/2013 (21:32)
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3/4/13 8:43 P

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Is happy an emotion? Then it SHOULD qualify as emotional eating but you are right that it really does NOT work with the whole idea of negative emotions. Maybe the psychological answer would be that you are NOT REALLY happy but covering up some deep dark emotion (with a MS in Psychology, I can mock myself on that psycho-babble stuff) LOL

With love and caring from Nancy ... wishing all of you a wonderful, blessed, and precious day.



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3/4/13 8:38 P

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How does the emotional eating definition work when you eat because you are happy.

Edited by: NOMIS1 at: 3/4/2013 (20:39)
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3/4/13 8:09 P

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3/4/13 3:55 P

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A member of the other team I posted in responded with the following definitions:

"Emotional eating is eating when one feels a sudden drop in one's well-being related to a negative thought or perception. One eats because eating has a history of making him/her feel better. For him/her, food has a curative value of sorts and fills a "hole" inside his mental being.

"Compulsive eating involves eating mindlessly because an individual no longer pays attention to his relationship with food. With compulsive eating, he eats whether he's hungry or full. He eats--generally unhealthy foods--all day long because he has food available close at hand."

The distinctions are clear and then the intersections become obvious. I certainly span the categories. I rarely eat compulsively all day, but night-time has been making up for it these past months.

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For me,compulsive eating is what I did this morning while cleaning the fridge-taking bites from whatever I was taking out.
Emotional eating is eating when I feel an emotional upset and I want it not to be there so I eat to numb it or not think about it.
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3/4/13 6:47 A

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Seems we all agree. Compulsive eating is none stop eating. Emotional eating is all the emotions that there are...hence unless you are in a shut down state and eating, you are probably emotional eating and its the same....joy, excitement, hurt, lonely, sad, tired etc.
Either way you have to figure a way round the eating...that applies to all of us, or we will be trapped in fat land forever.

I will NOT run emotionally from compliments and hide in fat layers for protection.


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3/3/13 11:09 P

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Aye aye. Giving up is more costly than staying the course.

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I think that might be a good decision. If you don't find the help you need there, you can explore other options and try other things. DO NOT GIVE UP.

With love and caring from Nancy ... wishing all of you a wonderful, blessed, and precious day.



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3/3/13 9:02 P

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All of your messages tell me to go ahead and give OA a fair chance. I'll check my bias at the door. I need help, I need help and, as people benefit from all the 12-step programs, OA may very well be good for me and me for it - I hope I don't live on a one-way street.

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I think they can be the same but sometimes they are separate. I referred in another posting that it is a little like playing WHACK-A-MOLE with the reasons and/or challenges I face with binge eating especially emotionally and sometimes compulsively. What I mean is that as soon as I think I have found a reason for such eating, AND come up with a solution or at least a POSSIBLE solution, another reason pops up somewhere else in my life. Sometimes the same or a similar solution helps, sometimes it requires a whole different idea. Once I recognized that, I started making the decision that whenever I had what I once called a slip up or falling off the wagon, I would reflect on it and come up with a PLAN to help avoid it the NEXT time. When the NEXT time is the same and the plan doesn't QUITE work, I adjust it. When the NEXT time is different, I try to come up with a DIFFERENT or a way to make my original plan grow to deal with the new problem. I have been struggling with this for so many years and I used to try to have a ONE SIZE FITS ALL solution and to identify ONE reason for my weird crazy eating. Now I know that there are LOTS of different (some related but still not exactly the same) reasons why I eat compulsively and/or emotionally AND there are LOTS of different tricks, PLANS and IDEAS that can reduce the likelihood that I will do it the NEXT time if I stop and reflect and then PLAN for it to happen again and to avoid allowing it to sideswipe me.

With love and caring from Nancy ... wishing all of you a wonderful, blessed, and precious day.



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3/3/13 8:40 P

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I know I am a binger and emotional eater - I would guess a compulsive overeater also. I eat over anything good, bad, doesn't matter. Once I start I cannot always stop. I also have been in therapy. One of the things I found out is that I don't think I am "good enough". That is a biggie for me.
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Sometimes I know why I'm eating and sometimes I don't. I know my greatest form of relaxation is eating junk food and watching tv. I could live on junk food.

I do have tools that I know work - too bad I don't use them often enough.



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3/3/13 6:57 P

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You are most welcome Laurie.

On this team we ahve health care professionals. Nurses and Dr.'s there will be other output.



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Debbie, thank you so much for sharing all of that. I didn't know about your past, but am thrilled that you discovered that you deserve to love and take care of yourself. The rest of us are the richer for it, too.

Thank you also for your perspective on the different eating challenges and dangers being one and the same. It makes good sense.

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Remember... each and every person is different. I will give my opinion.

I was a clinical Binge eater. This is classified as compulsive overeater. I over ate and Binged with any and all emotions that came my way. I was severely abused as a child/teen. I draw great comfort in eating non stop. This is in the same catagory as Bulimia and Anoresia Nervosa. I sought therapy for this in my late 20's. But then i went my own way and went back to my old ways. It took a Life threatening wake up call after binging on maple bars and a diabetic blackout with a fall backwards down a flight of stairs that woke me up. I could ahve been severely hurt or killed. At ER my blood sugar level was 500. that's high. That's when I found Spark People and got good advice and learned about being healthy and diabetes. Advice that saved my life.

In my good Overeating, binge eating and Emotional Eating are all one and the same.



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I hope to hear from those who are knowledgeable. Are compulsive eating and emotional eating one and the same? If not, do they intersect here and there? Or are they entirely separate challenges?

I'm still weighing whether OA and I may be a good fit and, in the process, the above questions came up.

Since OA deals with "compulsive eating," I'm wondering if it's an appropriate option for me. I'm not sure if I'm compulsive as well as emotional about food, or "merely emotional."

The thing that I have no question about is that I need help. I've been silent about myself in SP for a long time and have to stop. I want to ask for help, something that's always been very difficult for me, and expand my support system. After having lost 115 pounds as of Feb. 2011, I've regained 70. My weight loss stalled two years ago when I won the car (several of you may recall from our other mutual teams) because I'm not good at letting good things happen to me. Then I began to gain. A large percentage of the gain dates to last September, when depression increased to the point where emotions had me eating non-stop at night.

To repeat, I'd love input from anyone with OA experience and knowledge of any dividing line between compulsive and emotional gorging.

Laurie

P.S. Some of you will see this same post in DwD.

Edited by: SYLPHINPROGRESS at: 3/3/2013 (18:26)
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