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MZZCHIEF's Photo MZZCHIEF Posts: 9,189
10/24/12 3:52 P

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Sounds good to me!
Pretty much what we advocate here.

Sorry to hear that you have adrenal fatigue.
Sad to say many of us here, do, they're just in denial. LOL

I would add to make sure that you're getting adequate selenium in your diet either thru fish, mushrooms, garlic, nutritional yeast, one to a half a brazil nut or a multi. You don't want to go much over 150 a day.

Betacarotene for those that don't know, is a precursor to vitamin A.
Peeps with thyroid issues sometimes have a problem converting betacarotene into vitamin A. So I'd say eat those veggies, but more for all the wonderful phytonutrients they contain than specifically the betacarotene.

Some people have problems with beans because of the lectins and phytates they contain.. I've found that bringing them to a boil, soaking them overnite and throwing off this water, washing them before actually cooking them, helps reduce gas and makes them more digestible. So does throwing in a few fennel seeds and ginger for gas. Both these herbs act as carmatives.

We've got to be careful with the seaweeds and algaes like chlorella and spirulina Bc of the iodine they contain. Iodine in excess flairs Hashimoto's. Most of us have thyroid disease as a result of this autoimmune disease. That said, if you're eating a lot of Brassicas (aka "goitrogens", broccoli, arugula, kale etc.) then you'll need more iodine than the RDA of 150, as these veggies tend to bind iodine.

Joy, B vitamins as well as C, especially when found in foods, has been shown to help heal adrenals.

Thanks for your imput!
Great post!
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Hello all-

I appreciate that it has been quite a while since this discussion has been active, but I've just been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue in addition to my hypothyroidism (Hashimoto's) and was grateful to come across your comments and insights. In turn, I thought I would share the recommendations given to me last week by my nutritionist for your consideration. Of course, please consider that these are suggestions tailored to my specific case:

Diet:
1. Include sea vegetables such as seaweed
2. Include more sources of plant protein containing iron (legumes, pulses)
3. Aim to include sources of tyrosine in the form of nuts such as cashews, almonds, walnuts, and avocados (Tyrosine will help the building and conversion of Thyroid hormones)
4. Continue taking Fish Oil supplement, and support by eating oily fish 2 - 3 times per week
5. Include a source of beta carotene such as pumpkin, squash, nectarines, peaches, peppers, etc. to support thyroid function

Exercise:
1. Decrease high-impact exercise, increase lower-impact exercise such as yoga, walking, swimming, cycling (For me, this means no running, Zumba, etc.)

Supplements:
1. High Quality Women's Multivitamin
2. Acidophilus
3. Fish Oil
4. Vitamin D

I've only just adopted this new routine, so I don't have any results to report just yet. I hope this works!

Good luck!
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You are most welcome, Jane.

Frankly I think its a whole lot safer to remove or eliminate sources of halogens (chlorine, fluoride, bromine/bromides) from the diet than it is to add a bunch of iodine to mask the root cause of the problem.

To that end you might want to consider:
* a shower filter that removes chlorine with vitamin C
* running your tap water for all your food prep and drinking water into a gallon glass container and adding a peppercorn sized amount of pure vitamin C to dechlorinate the whole jug AND remove chloramines... alternately add the juice of an half an organic lemon.
*using distilled or spring water to make tea, as tea contains fluoride in addition to many beneficial compounds
*limiting fluoride mouth rinses and tooth pastes, using a tongue scraper afterwards, as the tongue's papillae can retain this stuff
*Avoiding foods that contain bromides/flourides. These foods would be some baked products that use bromated flours (you might see it listed as "potassium bromate"), some citrus flavored sodas like Mountain Dew that use bromated veggie oil, seafoods. Its used and for flame proofing fabrics (mattresses, stufff like "scotch guard") and in pesticides/fungicides... methyl bromide was used to fumigate the soil that strawberries are grown on, until it was replaced it with an even more toxic fumigant, methyl iodide.

IMO its important to educate one's self before jumping into anything.
Remember you are the custodian of this fabulous symphony we call our bodies.
This year resolve to treat this wonder with the respect it deserves!

I'm off my soapbox! ha
Make today fun...
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Thanks Mzz for you input.

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12/31/11 1:45 A

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Word of caution about the Iodoral, which is iodine.

People with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis... the autoimmune form of hypothyroid disease and the main cause of thyroid problems in this country... have to stay away from the amounts found in Iodoral as it increases one's auto-immune response.

Here's a link to some research on the subject:

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12/30/11 6:13 P

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Hey all. I'm turning pro on this subject! ;) (I'm not sure I'm thrilled about that)


It's been a year since I was diagnosed with adrenal fatigue and hypothyroid and goiter. It takes a lot of time. Things I wish I would have known then that I know now are some simple tests that you should do early on to help recovery. It cuts out a lot of the guessing game these doctors play.

Iodine Load test with Bromine and Fluoride - www.hakalalabs.com/

Trace Element Hair Analysis - www.aurorahealthandnutrition.
com/Store
/index.php?_a=viewProd&produc
tId=21


A FULL thyroid panel - TSH, Total T4, Free T4, T3 and RT3 You can do this through Life extension. Every year around March or April they have a 1/2 off sale on the blood tests.

BOOKS:
Calcium Lie Book - www.aurorahealthandnutrition.
com/Store
/index.php?_a=viewProd&produc
tId=6


Read Perfect Health Diet EXCELLENT BOOK!!! Kindle is way cheaper than the paperback www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006JSPM2S
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Also, check out Iodine - www.amazon.com/Iodine-need-ca
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Supplements I take:
Iodoral (high doses because of high bromine)
Dessicated Adrenal and Thyroid
Trace Minerals
Probiotics
Vitamin C (sustainable or whole foods)
and the minerals specific to my needs (via hair analysis results)

LIFESTYLE CHANGES:
no coffee or other stimulants
lots of water
go to bed - strive for non-waking sleep (not even to use the bathroom)
rest when needed
mental and emotional stress
don't over work/exercise
don't under eat
EAT FAT - you need them for hormone production

I also (this may sound crazy) have been seeing a chiropractor who has been helping me with detoxing from the heavy metals my body has accumulated. Who really knows if the hypothyroid led to the accumulated metals or if the metals led to the hypothyroid... or maybe a little bit of both. Either way... this all matters:
Heavy metals
toxic mineral build up
mineral deficiencies - malnutrition
STRESS (all of the above equates to stress) - too much exercise not enough food, keeping your body in a starvation mode...

Definitely not trying to act like I know everything, but since figuring all this out in the last few months, I've made more progress than in a whole year.

Hope some of this was helpful.
I wish you all the best

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Thanks for the help. Appreciate it. I have drank unsweet tea all my life & know that will be hard but have to do it.

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http://thyroid.about.com/
Try this site to see if this can help you.
Good luck.
Leona thyroid.about.com/

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My doctor recommended a gluten, sugar and caffiene free diet. I am on day 5 and I am feeling a little better. But it's not going to be easy to stick to. She also recommended not exercising hard for more than 20 minutes a day. I am trying to make the changes, but I don't know if works yet. I have to give it more time. I also have thyroid problems. You might want to check out this book from you local library "Are you tired and wired" by Marcelle Pick, it's a guide to overcome adrenal fatigue.

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I signed up here months ago but never did anything with SparkPeople. I really need some help or suggestions.I have had thyroid disease for yrs, originally Graves Disease & take Synthroid & Cytomel. I lost 55 lbs this year but during all the exercise I was so tired & heart fluttering & could hardly work out hard for over 20 minutes. But finally lost wait but now it is back.

Anyway....I finally found a holistic doctor & she done the saliva testing. I have adrenal fatigue, metabolic syndrome, etc. I am on lots of supplements, no adrenal support though. I still am always hungry & still craving sweets...which I was never a sweet eater.

Thought about WWatchers but thought I would turn to SparkPeople to see if anyone here has any suggestions. I would appreciate any help I can get.

(BTW..has anyone with Adrenal Fatigue went gluten free???)

THANKS!!!



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