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FARFALLA72 Posts: 72
10/26/10 5:39 P

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Your post reminded me of something. My PCP is also testing me for anemia.

I've been off BC since January 2010. My periods are finally regulated, that is, no more side effects. I was having breakthru bleeding every month while on the BC pills. I was on them for 12 years. I started BC before I was put on Synthroid. So, I was on both BC and Synthroid until January 2010.

To recap:

March 2010?
While on 100 mcg levothyroxine
TSH = 0.14
T4 = 1.2
T3 = 108

July 8 2010
while on 100 mcg levothyroxine
TSH = 0.09
Free T4 = 1.3

September 9 2010
while on 88 mcg levothyroxine and 5 mcg cytomel daily for 2 months
Free T4 = 1.27
TSH = 0.16

October 21 2010
Have been on 75 mcg levothyroxine and 5 mcg cytomel since October 10, quit Cytomel on October 22
Free T4 = ?
TSH = ?
T3 = ?

What else am I missing? Dunno. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.

Thanks, this is a good conversation.

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10/26/10 2:09 P

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I suspect that we'll have to wait and see what your Free Ts and TSH are.
And for your doc's rationale for removing you from Cytomel.

With all the changing around that's happened, its really hard to know where you are now. You've got 3 things in the mix, in different combinations and dosages... birth control pills, Cytomel and Synth. All that change is hard on the body and could be the reason why you aren't losing weight or feeling good.

Okay, just so that we're clear on this... at the time of your most recent blood draw for your Free Ts and TSH you were on 5mcgs of Cytomel and 75mcgs of Synth? How long had you been on that combination? And your doc told you to drop the Cytomel before she got the bloodwork back? How long has it been since you were on the Birth Control Pills? It can take as long as a year before your cycles become regular after you've stopped them, if you've been on them for a few years. And we all know that it takes about 8 weeks before any changes in the TSH occur if you're taking T4... 4-6 if you're taking Cytomel.

Jovan,

Thanks for your input. Ya, my experience was exactly as you described! It was as if I had never worked out before. I didn't notice right away because I'd gotten an injury on my arm and had to take a week off from the gym, just as I was starting the Cytomel so as not to open the cut... but there's no way would my conditioning drop that fast in a week, which is why I attributed it to the Cytomel.

That's why I suspect weak adrenals or mabbe low iron... low iron because insufficient oxygen is being carried to our tissues during exercise? Cortisol helps the body get thru stressful times... even though we might enjoy or fitness classes and running, our body still precieves these activities as stress. Dunno. Just speculating here.

Rissa, glad your vision problems resolved themselves! Ain't it grand when something gets fixed and you can remove it from the radar screen!


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I don't take cytomel, but I do take Armour which has T3 in it. After my surgery seven months ago, I had a real problem with blurry vision. I chalked it up to all of the muscle relaxers and anesthesia. But the problem persisted. Turns out, the blurry vision (which came and went) was caused by a combination of my allergies and dry eyes from my allergy medication. ARGH! Sometimes you can't win!

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10/26/10 10:10 A

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Mzzchief -

My doc originally put me on 25mcg of Cytomel (in addition to Synthroid). I'm a runner and when I started taking the Cytomel, I could barely run! It was like I had never exercised in my entire life. My endurance was gone. We eventually reduced the Cytomel to 5mcgs which is bearable. I never did see a difference from using just Synthroid to using both. But anyways, I actually feel like a slower runner since taking the Cytomel. Don't know if its because of getting older or the Cytomel! lol

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10/26/10 10:05 A

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Wow! I'm so glad you posted this. I had lasik probably 6 years ago and I started noticing lately that my vision is getting worse. I've been on cytomel for maybe 6 months now so I'm wondering if thats the issue? Hmmmm....



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10/26/10 6:58 A

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10/26/10 6:57 A

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Hi mzzzchief,

Thanks for your insight. Didn't really think of that. Ah well, I'm still getting older. But I feel better off of the Cytomel right now. I'll ask the doc.

I didn't have any muscle problems. I just know that I felt better (more energy) and happier on the Cytomel. I know it's confusing. How can I feel better on the Cytomel and at the same time feel better OFF the Cytomel.

Ah well.

This is maddening. See, I went off birth control without the consultation of my doc and I didn't know that if I went off birth control my Synthroid dosage would have to be reduced! I was on 100 mcg Synthroid only, then I went on 88 mcg Synthroid and 5 mcg Cytomel, and then I went on 75 mcg Synthroid and 5 mcg Cytomel. Not sure why the doc asked me to get off the Cytomel. I suspect that might be temporary. The doc thinks that the 75 mcg Synthroid might be too low for me, but she knows that I still need Synthroid, so Cytomel was easy to eliminate, I'm sure. Well, the blood tests should show what's up.

I remember that my T4 number improved with the addition of Cytomel, so that's why I was kept on 5 mcg Cytomel when they switched me to 75 mcg Synthroid. OK, so 88 mcg Synthroid is too high for me, and the 75 mcg Synthroid might be too low for me. What does that mean? Ah well.

If you remember, I was mad about the changes in dosages earlier in an earlier thread. It's OK, really, but I was mad. I wasn't too happy when my doc asked me to get off the Cytomel! But it worked. I'll try to listen more to my doctors. But at the same time not, you know? I just can't stand the med changes. Not easy for me to let go of that.

But I'm happy to be off the birth control pills. All the side effects are gone!

I've been suspecting adrenal fatigue for a while, but of course I forgot to put that on the list of things to rule out... Maybe I'll bring that up when I call my doc.

Thanks! I'll check message boards again tonight. Off to work I go! Have a good day everyone! emoticon

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Alpha!


My first thought is that your doc may have told you to stop the Cytomel, simply because its the most recent change in your thyroid medication.

Whenever a problem comes up, "what's new" is the first thing most doc's look for, and what was new in the 'Life of Alpha' was Cytomel.

Still, I'd be interested in hearing the doc's rationale... we can only speculate here.

I recently added Cytomel to my Synth, and a whole host of problems have disappeared. The biggest one being that I no longer am kept up all nite with toe cramps.

My main complaint with the Cytomel, is endurance... I can't seem to do as many lifts in my weight class and my face gets redder/heart rate increases in step class. I'm hoping this will improve with time. So far, so good. Not sure what's causing this problem, but I suspect weak adenals.

Did you have this problem, too, with the Cytomel?

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Well, I was getting blurry vision but I was told by my eye doc it was because I am getting older plus working at the computer all day. He decreased my rx for my contact lenses and that helped a lot. The happened before I started taking cytomel, so I know it wasn't that... I have really not had any side effects from cytomel. I hope you get your labs soon and get everything figured out.

I do not recall that blurred vision was one of the side effects, but that doesn't mean I didn't miss it. I always read up on meds now. I always think it is crazy when they show ads on TV for prescription drugs and all they side effects they list seem worse than the original condition.

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10/25/10 10:35 P

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Hi,

Something very odd happened to me recently. Two months ago I requested that we try Cytomel in addition to the Synthroid. Said and done. Endocrinologist reduced my Synthroid dosage and gave me 5 mcg Cytomel. I felt better a couple of days after the introduction of Cytomel. However, I didn't realize this, but apparently I started developing blurry vision. I had my vision checked at the optician. They told me I needed bifocals. No problem. But my blurry vision was getting worse.

Finally, last Thursday I decided to go to my PCP. I told her I wanted to rule out Graves, diabetes, under/over medication, etc. So she ordered a metabolic test and Free T4 and TSH and T3 test for me. Still waiting for the results on those. Have to retake TSH in 2 months. She also told me that she wanted me to see an ophthalmologist. So I will, as soon as I get an appointment. My PCP also told me to stop taking the Cytomel. I was nervous about that! I didn't really want to stop taking Cytomel, but I did. I guess it pays to listen to your doctor...

Well, so I've stopped taking the Cytomel for 4 days now, and my vision is better. No more blurry vision. So, I am not sure what possessed my PCP to tell me to stop taking Cytomel. Something she knows thats not common knowledge? Apparently blurry vision is a side effect of the Cytomel! Sigh. I was feeling better, but the side effect is awful! Has anyone heard of Cytomel causing blurred vision???

Sigh, having Hashi's is not easy!

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