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I read an article in the newspaper that says researchers are looking into
using donkey's organs instead of pig's as they are much stronger and
disease free.Then we will have to try and save the donkeys...

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This is completely irrelavent, but when I first saw this thread I thought it said, "Make a difference in porcupines! Help save them!" Talk about confusion lol.

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Ok. Been crying again for no apparent reason...cry, cry, cry and I get so irritable! What's up with that? None of my family want to be around me and I don't blame them! Sent my Naturopath an email telling her that I MUST have labs done again; she had wanted to wait until the end of March. I can't possibly wait another 6 weeks of this! OMG! I took another Cortisol Manager (supposedly I have too much Cortisol and too much Estrogen so now I am on NO help for that...no sure what to do...

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Janeychap? Please note that for the majority of us...being on meds is going to be a lifelong issue. There's nothing wrong with that. If one has Hashimoto's the only thing that will slow or halt the autoimmune response and destruction of the thyroid gland is hormone replacement. Not one thing you can take to support the thyroid will make that go away. Please note that most of the supplements that are sold for this purpose are overpriced gimmicks.

Better information is available at

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

www.thyroid.about.com

at least these ladies have reliable, PROVEN scientific minded support behind them.

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My doctor uses a compounding pharmacist who creates (as I understand it) their own version of armour.

Just a note, there are natural ways to support and heal your thyroid so that you're not on medication the rest of your life. Google "natural thyroid support" or something close and you'll find nutrition that can help alleviate the symptoms and lower the TSH levels. Also, I use accupressure to help keep my thyroid in sync.



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Hey Purrs...happy taking sugar with Armour works for you. My endo took me off Armour and I have not been tired, depressed, gained 25 lbs, etc. I cancelled my appointment with her since I am not up to arguing with her. Dr Oz said...he thought he knew it all after graduation. She has same mind set.

I can't go on feeling like this or allowing endo to prescribe medication for conditions I don't have...i.e. diabetes, etc. especially after bil died a few weeks ago from medication complications.


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Since the item that changed the most was the microcrystalline cellulose.....that would be my culprit.

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What specifically were you allergic to? Was it the porcine or something in the inactive ingredients?





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Actually Patt? What is working for me now is increasing the amount of armour, then I use a pill crusher and take it with about 1/4 t sugar. Since it was the sugar that was removed this seems to do the trick. The problem was that they used microcrystalline cellulose rather than the sugar they used to as a filler. Why is this a problem? Because this is FIBER and fiber binds to thyroid. The addition of sugar to it along with slight increase in dose takes care of the problem.

There's a thyroid group on yahoo....and one of the gals there started this.

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Hi NCCAJ7,

I've just found this group, but what you wrote about not being able to adjust to the reformulated Armour stood out to me. In my endeavor to learn about Hypo I've been doing a lot of reading. When the same topic to which you are referring came up, I learned that some people were able to make the reformulated Armor work by crushing it and swallowing it with water. For some, it is the filler that is used that is causing the problem not the porcine. Some people react to the cellulose (filler).


I'm new to this group, and don't know if I can post a link; I will share the information and tell you where I got the information.

"...here is a potential solution to the problems encountered with both the reformulated Armour by Forest Labs, and the reformulated Naturethroid by RLC.

Namely, by either crushing your tablet with a mortar and pestle, or chewing it up in little pieces, patients are starting to report far better symptom relief!! i.e., this process is probably breaking down the ridiculous coatings and cellulose and allowing your body better access to the desiccated thyroid within.

And if you just can’t stomach the pulverized pill method, add a touch of honey to the powder, and lick it all up..."

You can find the rest of the article by selecting/coping/pasting the follow words,

breaking down the ridiculous coatings and cellulose

The info is in the Stop The Thyroid Madness site.

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Thanks for the post. I'll surely bookmark this one. Very informative.


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Thanks for the post. I'll surely bookmark this one. Very informative.


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The reformulation of Armour was not good at all for me. I began gaining weight and had horrible palpitations...My TSH climbed higher than it had been in three years. I could not get the coverage I had gotten on the previous formula. I switched in April 2010 to Naturethroid, but am having difficulty getting to a good level on it too. Still, I do believe that I am doing a little better on the Naturethroid than with the NEW armour. It is just finding the balance. It can take quite some time and a whole lot of patience! Regardless, I don't think I could function at all without the porcines! I have perpetual brain fog and severe exhaustion without them.



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armour is reformulated and not working effectively for many of us. It is out there so you'd have to try to see if it works for you. I didn't for me so I got on erfa from canada.

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I haven't been on this site in awhile..sorry if question already addressed, but has anyone found Armour still being made and distributed to pharmacies? Dr. put me on synthyroid because of Armour shortage. Its been 6 months, I want to go back on Armour.

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porcines are any medication for thyroid made from dessicated PIG (porcine) thyroid glands. Armour is one of them. Call around to all pharmacies. You can also request your pharmacy to drop ship directly from the mfg. It helps to take in the 800 number from the company website when you do this. This means the pharmacy is not ordering from their regular wholesaler but it's a good service to offer to their customers!

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What are Porcines? You can tell I am new at this and fighting to get Armour Thyroid RX back. There is none in our county and so I am on my 4th Rx to try to get energized and lose weight. Any helps would be appreciated.

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Thanks for the tip about the reverse T3 test. I will ask when I am next due for blood tests.
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I know about not feeling better at all on synthroid. It is your body and it is up to you to find the care you need. If this doc is unwilling to listen and allow you any say in your treatment then they aren't a team player. I'd be out the door. I got to the point I interviewed the office staff before making an appt. I made a list of questions I wanted answered based on what I was interested in and called. If they didn't want to talk I'd explain it was to save us both time because I didn't want to waste the docs time by going to them only one time. If they still didn't want to talk to me that answered it good enough and I moved on. Basically I wanted to know if the doc listened to info I'd found and would look into it, if they listened to symptoms at all or only went by TSH, if they wrote scripts for armour, etc. My doc now is a naturopathic one even tho they aren't licensed in MO..she works through another doc. And I wouldn't go anywhere else even tho her office staff leaves much to be desired.

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That's the typical dribble the pharmaceutical companies teach them. TSH is not the best lab to manage thyroid conditions - it is helpful in the beginning to diagnose, but then has limited value. (Although the majority of the medical community will tell you otherwise).

I say find a different doctor. Look for a general medical doctor that is an OD, they tend to look at the body in a more holistic manner. Depending on the state you are in a Naturopath might be a good bet if they can prescribe. We tend to avoid Endocrinologists because they go through rather thorough "programming" and seem to only be able to respond to TSH values with synthetic meds.

You'll want to have Free T3, Free T4, both types of antibodies, Reverse T3 (which they don't like to run, but after years on synthroid it would be in your best interest to run it), they run TSH anyway, and you want to test your Ferritin, B12 and Vitamin D. Together these values can help guide you toward the right path to feel truly well.

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I have been on synthroid for years and complaining about my symptoms. You ladies have really educated me about what else is out there for meds. My Dr has the standard opinion that I should stick with synthroid because my TSH falls in the normal range. What do you all have to say about my Dr. not considering any other meds. Should I just change Drs. or maybe try to find a holistic Dr? What type of Drs are letting you make some of your own choices?

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i believe we all should have a choice to take what works for us most definately porcine or other theres so many choices its a blessing .
i'm on levoxly too but was on old armour for two years cant take new formula:( and allergic to naturethoid hypoallergenic (not for us all obviously ) but porcines seem readily available but the docs really don't wat to prescribe them ofcourse not all docs.

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Dukkie? If you'd like to continue to have the option however it helps to write your government representatives. There is alot going on that points to FDA perhaps going after closing this option regardless of the fact it helps so many of us. That site is a good tool for some of us discovering porcines and the fact they may help us where synthetics never will.

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I use levo. and it works for me (so far) but I know that for Lots and Lots of people it isn't working so please look into this topic and read this website:

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

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what I've done is write to all of my pertinent political representatives. You can actually write like every week if you want to. The more of us that do so may get noted. There is also a save-natural-thyroid on facebook and yahoo groups if you'd like to join there and get updates!

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Hi Purr, I've missed your wisdom and spunk. I have been out of circulation for awhile however I'm back now.

What do I need to do to save the porcines. All I can say is they saved my sanity and quality of life. I owe them much. What do I do?

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I take NDT compounded at Women's International Pharmacy in Youngtown, AZ. They actually split my 1.5grains into two doses for me, so I could take .75 in the AM and .75 in the PM. It cost a bit extra, but was worth it. A 30 day supply was just under $30 including S&H - which I do not think insurance will cover. But I can deal with that. My RX co-pay would be $35 anyway.

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Cookie? The difference is synthroid is name brand and levothyroxine is generic. There are known consistency issues with generic and many don't do well on it as you also have noted. Many of us do better on the porcines as it seems you may have. Many docs don't understand dosing on the porcines and won't prescribe em. Those of us on them have either a good doc or we had to hunt like heck to find one.

Amazing? Join the Save_Natural_thyroid group on yahoo or facebook. The gals there have lots of documentation saying that while on porcines it's normal to be very close to zero while on them. My TSH is .014 and I'm far from hyper.

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PeachesII ~ I needed to hear what you just wrote about lower TSH levels. My Holistic M.D. was not concerned about my low TSH levels while on NDT(1 1/2 gr. Naturethroid)because as he pointed out - I was NOT having hyperthyroid symptoms, and I was functioning great on that dosage - the best I've felt in years.
However, he had to take a family leave of absence 2 months ago, and my new physician and her P.A. have lowered my dosage because they are concerned about my low TSH level, and the consequences of going for long periods of time with too low of a TSH; early onset of osteoporosis, etc. So, I was put on 1 gr. of Naturethroid....well, since it has become next to impossible to now get 1 gr. of NDT compounded by a pharmacy. I don't feel horrible, but I definitely do not feel as great as I was on the higher dosage. Well, I mentioned this at my last appointment....both the new doctor and the P.A. said to just give it a couple months, and if I'm still feeling just "okay" we'll reconsider the dosage. I think I'll copy & paste your last entry, do some research and discuss this with the new doctor at my next visit.
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Cookiedoh, Everyone is different and a large population seem to do very well on t4 only thyroid medication.

The kind made from pigs, called natural desiccated thyroid (NDT), contains everything your own thyroid would give you if it was healthy. It contains T4, T3, T2, T1 and calcitonin. Synthroid is T4 only.

If your system does not convert T4 to T3 well, then you might do better with an NDT such as Naturethroid, ERFA Thyroid, or Armour. There is significant evidence that a combination T4/T3 thyroid treatment provides better results than T4 only.

There are also other factors to consider: ferritin should be above 70; B12 should be up around 800 - 900; D3 should be around 60 - 80. If these are all in order and drowsiness or fatigue are still of concern, then next one can check their cortisol and DHEA levels via a saliva test www.canaryclub.org/diurnal-cortisol-
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. There is another group I would direct you to if you suspect adrenal issues.

The irony is that while there is a pocket of over 2 million hypothyroid suffers who are adamant about only using NDT with all the T's in it, mainstream medical doctors still preach T4 only and a so-called normal TSH. I have learned that folks using NDT will always have a suppressed TSH value and it does not make us hyperthyroid contrary to popular belief.

For example, my TSH is around .0039 and I am not hyperthyroid. We dose based on how I feel, (that is whether I am exhibiting hypothyroid symptoms), and Free T3 and Free T4 values.

I hope something here is helpful to you.

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I am confused! I take SYNTROID 125MCG every day. It is listed as levothyroxine sodium also. I took levothyroxine as a generic, but I felt better taking Syntroid. I started out takeing the kind that was made from pigs. What is the difference? I function very well, I do get drousey, and have a horrible time trying lose any weight. I have joined Curves, that helps me to maintain. I have played soccer, done low impact aerobics, shovel my own snow take care of my yard and walk my dogs. I park out in the lower 40 pack a lunch and walk into the store I am aiming for. I just turned 71 got type2 diabeties for a birthday gift. Is there a better thyroid Med than what I am taking?

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The manufacturer of thyroid USP has recently stated that they are caught up on production, however, they said they are a little challenged getting enough in the quality range for one company ... I suspect that's RLC, the company that makes Westhroid and NatureThroid, (they've never had a recall so I suspect their specifications are tighter).

I recently got a 90 day supply of 1 grain Naturethroid from a mail order house in Arizona, Clarks (480) 488-2007. (My current script is for 2-1/2 grain so 225 tablets) with shipping was $66.00.

According to Mary Shomon's site, Forest Labs the makers of Armour won't comment about what is going on with Thyrolar, Armour, or levothyroxine ... and I have just given up on Forest, personally.

We can also get the ERFA brand of Thyroid from Canada because the FDA has relaxed their control over that drug coming over the border. ERFA thyroid is the 1st generation formulation of Armour. I am told it is sweet like old Armour. You can go here for options to obtain ERFA www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/option
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Finally, the problem with compounded formulas is two-fold based on my observations; 1) Many compounding pharmacies use cellulose which evidently inhibits the absorption of the hormone, 2) pharmacies are lying about the hormone they use and are providing synthetic hormones which they incorrectly believe to be superior to porcine. One has to be very specific in requesting compounded thyroid and question until you get a confident answer that they are using porcine rather than synthetic hormone.

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I signed the petition today

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Thank you for posting the link.

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hye Purrz!

Signed the petition this morning, thx for providing the link!

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KJ? The skinny is this

ARmour is available now in 1 grain size only....limited supplies

naturethroid and westhroid are supposed to be available toward the end of the month...they've been on back order.

Compounded has been available but to mixed reviews. Personally it's not got me entirely up to speed.

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11/3/09 1:30 P

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I'm confused about the porcines i heard they are in pharmacies just some strengths on backorder i know with the naturethroid they wont do over 30 day supply till there is plenty but.

i haven't had a prob getting yet.

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11/3/09 12:54 P

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www.thepetitionsite.com/7/tell-the-f
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a petition we can do on the internet asking the FDA not to ban natural meds.

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Good to hear that it is available again. I will need to go to the pharmacy.

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Not for a second time.....but the first time. 60's are released but they're asking us all to take it easy because they are easing into production

www.armourthyroid.com

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10/4/09 6:36 P

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pharmacist said today (quote) armours on back order because it is being reformulated I'm feeling hopeful so far the 15's are in she heard at fred meyer if it comes back better i'm going back i was a old armour success did very well and got stabel before new formula.

I think the 60's are on there way i'm calling top foods on the hill I would trade my levoxly and cytomel for a new better armour.

just wanted to share

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some of the gals are doing this on the Save group but they are paying more than they would have otherwise....quite a bit more. Last I heard the US hasn't made customs any more difficult to do this.

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9/30/09 10:07 A

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Has anyone looked for Armour from Canadian Pharmacies??? OR other sources out the country???

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I found a pharmacy with naturthroide they said it would be 46.00 for 30 2 grain tabs because of the demand it used to be 13.00 and some change they said it's a supply and demand issue

but it would be 76.00 for ther compounded 90 day supply but cant get doc wont approve.

this is out of pocket 100% not covered without a ton of paperwork possibly im positive don't know where to start if i show bad effects from synthetic i will do what i can i'm gonna have to take something to keep me calm during switch my body is so sensitive to synthetics but i'm i a tight spot finacially can't afford all this right now gotta move need money for that the place we live is going into forclosure i'm having loads of fun with all this:)
i'm not the owner but renters are getting it too.

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KIMMIE i agree with you my doc gave me naturrthroid i have less than 90 day supply now i let her know its on backorder and if i could get it compounded this was over the phone the nurse called me back and said the doc said i can't get compounded,and i would have to take levoxly,hope stuff gets right soon i have pleanty of refills no naturthroid ,if i run out i will have to get it from naturepath i see only once in awhile because insurance don't cover,she goes by income which is cool she is nice too .

I feel like you i wonder if all these changes are a good thing. i'm going threw the rollercoaster of symptoms and emotions i had to quit armour thyroid i got so sick and dizzy from the new formula.

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9/16/09 7:53 P

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I too was taken off Armour, because the pharmacy could not access enough of it. Instead, I have been prescribed a combination of synthroid and cytomel. Now my levels are unpredictably all over the place. What controls these levels? Is there any way that I can help to stabilize them through diet and exercise? Is it dangerous for me to be swinging through highs and lows like this? I am not going to just brush it off as being "a woman who is getting to be a certain age". I feel that no matter what age a person is, they have a right to be as healthy as they can.

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9/8/09 10:12 P

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It was the STTM YAHOO GROUP....not the site itself.

They're both back now with the only explanation was server issues.

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9/8/09 7:55 P

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Naturethroid just felt like too much then like not enough and if i needed more i would not be able to obtain right now i wonder if the shortage is including compounded too?

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Purrballs that is strange about the sites.

KJGETTINHEALTHY, I went from armour to naturethoid; so far haven't seen any weird side effects from switching. Did you have trouble when you were on naturethoid? The only thing I have noticed and don't know if it is even relate to the new med is I am having restless legs from time to time when I go to bed. Never happened before so don't know what is causing it.

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i just got on the stop the thyroid madness could it be technical or is their a certain area on the site?

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Just a heads up but the yahoo groups for Save_natural_thyroid, and Stop the thyroid madness have been closed down. No reason why as yet. Facebook groups are still operating.

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this has been hard i just got my last bottle of armour and i have 90 day supply of naturethroid almost i took some but am so used to armour went right back ,but the pharmacy is out here aand alot of them are saying they have people waiting some have for certain strengths 3 months.

I'm afraid to get into the naturethoid and need adjustments i have 2 grains and they are so differant from armour but i need levels checked i'm tempted and leaning towards levoxly and cytomel low dose to start on cytomel but there wouldn't be any wait with that cytomel stops joint pain have to have both.

I would like to know what i can do to make a differance if anyone gets any addresses to write who we need to write please post.

theres always pickiting it works for alot of people to get points across and gets attention:)

I'm gonna invest in one of those stop the thyroid madness T-shirst good idea on the post purrballs put up here.

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s'ok.....Just didn't want to scare some of the others who haven't read up on it yet!

And yeah.....there's always behind the scenes lobbyists doing something we may not like. Helps to be proactive which is why I suggested writing congressmen, representatives, etc and get involved!

Glad you got your meds.....it pays to be proactive and do things before they go in the crapper!! I was glad my doc wrote for 90 days and I happily paid OOP rather than deal with insurance. At least I got em. Wish everyone could.

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I stand corrected. I didn't mean to make it sound like it was already a definite decision made by the FDA, but when re-reading my response that is how it sounded. I apologize Purrballs. I do however, feel that there is more going on here than what we are being told. Any efforts to save porcines is most definitely worth doing. It would be detrimental to a lot of thyroid suffers for them to be pulled off the market.

I WAS able to get my meds today. I made a topic on what I went thru to get them if you are having trouble getting them.

Edited by: RANEYDAY at: 9/2/2009 (19:05)
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Raney? right now there is NO announced forcing of the natural meds going through a NDAP. If you read the article Mary alludes that it is a possibility but NOT a certainty.

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I read the latest article from Mary Shomon and she is very discouraged because she says that the FDA is pulling the natural thyroid from the market to have it go thru a New Drug Application Process and she says that she doesn't know how long dessicated thyroid products would be off the market while going thru this process. I for one am waiting on a order of Naturoid and was suppose to get it yesterday. I am checking on it today and will update everyone, I am not feeling very positive about getting it right now. thyroid.about.com/b/2009/08/26/end-n
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Edited by: RANEYDAY at: 9/2/2009 (07:57)
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149 bye
148 So Long Partner!
147 The bus stops here!
146 So long!
145 Out the door!
144 Good Bye!
143 Hit The Road!
142 Toodles!
141 Finally!
140 GOAL! WOO HOO!!!



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Hey, Purrballs. I just received a response from RLC Labs regarding the manufacture of NatureThroid and Westthroid. They wouldn't comment on what the FDA is doing and/or requiring at this point. However, they did promise to get back to me regarding a few pharmacies that may have one of the two available. They stated that their shortage is due to "masses switching from Armour".

They also stated "However, RLC Labs is committed to ensuring that NDT remains a viable treatment option for hypothyroidism."

I, too, highly recommend everyone on natural thyroid join that yahoo group or the same facebook group! There's a lot of information on these two sites that people should be aware of. I personally haven't been able to find any of the Naturethroid and am moving to hopefully be able to get the compounded version.



 
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Call the FDA, write your government representatives but make your voice heard. Right now there's no intent to get rid of natural meds but to be sure we gotta speak up.

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