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9/21/08 1:19 P

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actually most of us take only armour. I'd have taken my meds when I awoke no matter the time. Best to try to keep thyroid as even as possible.

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9/20/08 11:20 P

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Some of us take Armour only, not a synthetic & Armour combo.

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9/20/08 6:38 P

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I did not take my thyroid medication one day this week since I was up all night and woke in the afternoon which is too late for me to take my meds. Anyway, I was sorry I did this. I was extremely tired, hungry, etc. I felt a lot better when I took thyroid meds the next morning. I have come to love my screwy body.

Synthroid and Armour can not be compared since they contain different compounds that work differently. Synthroid is synthetic. Armour is a pig gland. Synthroid is T4 that the body must convert to T3. Armour is T1,2,3,4. T 3 is an active thyroid hormone. No active T-3 in Synthroid. A patient that does not covert Synthroid T4 to T3 is prescribed a small dose of Armour to take with synthroid/levoxly.

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9/19/08 3:13 A

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Nancy, the 60mg(or 1 grain) dose of Armour is the equivalent to the 100mg dose of Levothroid or Synthroid. You can check the table at the link below. Go to Patient Information, then FAQ's for the Table of Equivalents.

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www.armourthyroid.com/

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9/18/08 1:37 P

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Thanks for the replies. I just wanted to make sure that half a day without Armour wasn't going to affect the results. Since it takes some time for medication to affect test results, I figured it took a while without medication to affect them also.

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9/18/08 1:06 P

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My bad then. When she said "I'm thinking it shouldn't affect them, especially the TSH, but I just want to be sure", I thought she was wondering about why her TSH went back up.

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9/18/08 12:50 P

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Yes but that wasn't what she was asking about. She was asking about if she should have taken her replacement that day and so forth.

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Gotcha. But then would that still not be the likely cause for an interim TSH increase?

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9/18/08 12:26 P

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Nancy? we understand that but many docs in the transition to armour will start at a lower equivalent dose because some patients have experienced a bit of shock when the T3 is introduced to their system when they didn't have it in the synthetic they were on.

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9/18/08 12:24 P

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Armour is a dessicated porcine (pig) gland medication to replace thyroid hormone. It contains T4, T3, T2, T1 and calcitonin. The function of T2 and T1 is not entirely known. T4 is the storage form of thyroid hormone while T3 is the active form which cells need to function. Most are on a synthetic form of thyroid replacement that is T4 only and their body must convert that T4 into T3. Some of us don't convert well or at all. Some just do better when they have T3 in their medication. Armour is less expensive.

I couldn't function on synthroid...armour works best for me. I still had all my hypo symptoms on synthroid and they went away on armour. I've also managed my cholesterol and other levels on armour which were out of control on synthroid. To read more on it and so forth you can go to the following sites.

www.stopthethyroidmadness.com

www.thyroid.about.com

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9/18/08 12:16 P

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If I am remembering correctly, if you were stable on 100 mg of Levothyroid, the equalilant dose of Armour would be higher, not lower, so I would think it was the reduction in HRT that caused your TSH to go back up.

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9/18/08 11:57 A

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I'm new to this Community and I'm wondering what is the story behind Armour that you all are chatting about? I have been on a low dose Synthroid for longer than I care to remember and I have the same old symptoms. My hair is falling out. I itch all the time, including my face now. When I get cold, all I can thing about is going to bed. I'm so tired all the time. I don't hardly even get dressed during the day now. I drag my feet to make the smallest move and I weight a ton.... Is Armour more expensive? Give me some info...please....

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9/18/08 11:07 A

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you got it all together girl!

Hope you feel better soon, a dosage raise will help!

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You're right Riz, not taking your Armour the day of labs is best. It won't affect your TSH and it won't give a false high on the fT4 and fT3. A higher dose of Armour is definitely in order for you.

And yes, it's recommended that the fT4 be at the mid to upper end of the range. fT3 should be at the top of the range.

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I was just tested yesterday and got the results online this morning. TSH is 5.4 (.3-5.5), FT4 is .8 (.8-1.7), and total T3 is 94 (70-200). (TSH 6 weeks ago was 0.3 on 100mg of Levothroid, now on 60mg of Armour. Total T3 is what my endo and I compromised on, but hopefully next time I can convince her to go with FT3.)

Anyway, if I remember correctly, ideal number for T4 should be mid range and T3 in the higher range. Does that sound about right? I know my endo will raise the dose slightly (maybe by 15mg?), as she wants my TSH at least under 3. Also, I had the test done at 2:30 yesterday afternoon, but did not take my Armour for the day until afterwards. Would half a day without Armour affect the results, or should these still be accurate? I'm thinking it shouldn't affect them, especially the TSH, but I just want to be sure.

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