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Revisiting it right now! And then I'm going to read "Death Comes to Pemberly" by P.D. James

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I'm right there with you. :) P&P and Outlander are the two books I pick up when I want to read but I'm too tired to dive into something new.



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Oh my goodness, this is my favorite book of all time! Now I'm gonna have to reread it (again!). emoticon

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YES. That was it. Thanks, Ladyhawke!



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I remember that movie (or at least one that was similar) called 'Lost in Austen'.

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I saw a movie - don't remember the name - where modern day girl and Elizabeth change places. It was cute.

Helpful, right?

Has anyone read Austentatious by Alyssa Goodnight? It's on my list.



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3/11/12 6:44 P

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So glad I found this! I've read Pride and Prejudice so many times I can almost quote it by heart! I also love the Colin Firth BBC version. I bought it a few years ago, so I could watch as often as I wanted! I even read and saw the Jane Austen Book Clu just because I love the books themselves so much. What could be bad about a book/movie centered around Austen?

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I like to have the BBC version of P&P on in the background whenever I do stuff. I could watch Colin Firth all day... ;)



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I watch these movies over and over again. I like the British versions best.
The books tell you much that the people are thinking, that cannot be conveyed in the movie, so I would recommend reading the books as well, and then perhaps watching it again. There is a lot of narrative, and long speeches which nobody ever interrupts. people were more patient then :)

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Ooh, I'll have to see if I can find it. Bet youtube has it somewhere...



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Sense and Sensibilty is my favorite Austen. The movie is just brilliant and Emma Thompson is nearly infallable. Her Golden Globe acceptance speech for the script is also a work of genius.

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I love watching Jane Austen costume dramas and think the BBC ones are best especially the 1995 Pride and Prejudice with Colin Firth.

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I do have the movie Sense and Sensibility to thank for turning me into an Austenite. I watched it because of Hugh Grant and stayed around because the script was awesome. :)

Watching movies of Persuasion cracks me up because Anne Elliot says NOTHING in 3/4 of the film. I always feel sorry for the actress playing her. :)



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Just finished a "round" of Lost in Austen. It's my fall back between books. Did not go well. Darcy and Colonel Fitzwilliams were about to duel for my hand when Lady Catherine shot me. I guess she was pretty serious about not having me as a niece.

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I completely agree! I have found that most books, turned into movies, are not nearly as good as movies!

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I like Jane Austen a lot. Even though I have seen many (most ) of the films I prefer the novels for a few reasons--irony does not seem to translate well into film and Austen's narrative voice is lost.

Austen's voice is quite wonderful: she moves from a Romantic vein to an 18th century neo-enlightenment one to a subtly ironic one. Occasionally we can see flashes of anger.

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I have read a lot of Georgette Heyer books. She's a wonderful writer of the regency period.

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I love Pride and Prejudice and Jane Austen; I enjoyed the book probably more than the movie; I really liked Colin Firth playing Mr. DArcy; I also thought in the book the ending was rushed. I didn't mind the happy ending .... I don't think the book would have felt "finished" if all the misunderstandings hadn't got cleared up. I think Jane was a romantic. At least she could give Lizzy a happy ending although she never realized her own.

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I am faithful to the Olivier version, but I wish it could have been in color :(

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Funny that you bring up Heyer. When I was in college, a roommate introduced me to her and I loved her. It has been a very, very long time since I read one, so I decided to give them a try. I have one waiting to be picked up at the library right now!

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I have heard that the Colin Firth remake was pretty good. i must check it out.
Anyone who likes regency period novels would love Georgette Heyer's Regency Romances. They are a treasury, and keep on getting reprinted. There are loads of them to enjoy too.Read the Grand Sophy.

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It's funny--after having seen more recent remakes, I saw a little of the old Olivier movie and expected to find it horribly dated. And it was, to a degree, but a good actor is a good actor, and he was still exciting!

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I've never watched that version.
I watched the version with Colin Firth as Mr. Darcy and I really loved him in it.
I gotta watch the one you guys are talking about and check out Heyer. Austen has made me want to devour any Regency book I can find.

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Me, too! I saw the Olivier movie when I was a young girl on TV and fell in love. I've see it many times, plus every remake in the last ten years, and read the book at least a couple of times, although not lately.

I am glad you mentioned Georgette Heyer--I read some of her books in college and had completely forgotten about her.

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Hi! I just checked out the Bookworm page and couldn't resist.

This is about my favorite book and I love the movie with Laurence Olivier.I just adore Mr Darcy. He could teach young men a few things about manners these days.
I like the ending in the movie, but the book is much more detailed, although it is a little different Altogether I just like Regency novels.I have read most of Georgette Heyers Regency romances, and I love them. They are so witty and funny. It's a different era, but she did her research well.

Jane Austen is right on the mark of course, being English and living in that period. Like Lizzie, she was also educated at home, and was not one of the "Quality"
For those who haven't read this type of novel, it is a big change for some, but well worth getting into until you "get it."

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I LOVE this book.
I'd be interested in joining the discussion if anyone is still doing it.

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On a whim, I read Pride and Prejudice this month. Maybe I don't get it, but I just wasn't into it. I almost didn't finish it. I especially was disappointed with the ending. Not to say I don't like happy endings, but I felt it was rushed through and too perfect. I like more complicated endings or endings that leave you with something to think about. Oh well, there is always another book around the corner.

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If anyone is still interested in doing this discussion, I would be up for it. I read Pride & Prejudice every summer, and I am just about to pick it back up again.

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because no one responded until I prompted I took that to mean that people were not interested, so I stopped reading it. I can post more questions by this coming monday. I need to re-read the last volume in order to do it. If people are interested in keeping this up... the classic book group discussion... I am willing to initiate questions on the books we read. Let me know.



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Looks like it. I started reading the book but just couldn't get into it.

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So did this discussion just fall to the way side?

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* What do you think of Mr. Darcy and Mr. Wickham now?
This is the start of the good guy/bad guy characters for romance novels. The reader watches their values unfold as the story progresses. Mr. Wickham is a sorry poor me character, while Mr. Darcy at least accepts all actions.
* Comment on Lydia and Kitty’s behavior.
Actually typical for the time period, but without the elder restraint that most young ladies had.
* Is is true still in our days that the reputation of our siblings and parents affects our dating prospects?
In higher circles of society, there is still a date and marry in your own social strata. The same is true in the celebrity and gossip level in our social world.
* Why was Elizabeth so blind to Wickham’s character?
She was attracted to the romance of the situation like many are attracted to Hollywood gossip.
* What do you think of Mrs. Bennet’s support of the younger girls frivolity?
Mrs. Bennet has not grown up and wants to live through her children.
* What do you think about Jane and how she handles Mr. Bingley’s abandonment without explanation?
She feels she is not worth an explanation and continues on in her own little world.


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* What do you think of Mr. Darcy and Mr. Wickham now?

Mr. Darcy is hard to figure out. I don't know what to think of him. Mr. Wickham is a jerk.


* Is is true still in our days that the reputation of our siblings and parents affects our dating prospects?

I agree with Amber. I think our family's rep does affect dating prospects. Probably not as much as it used to though

* Why was Elizabeth so blind to Wickham’s character?

Elizabeth was infatuated with Wickham. She was blind. She prejudged Mr. Darcy and believed everything Wickham said.

* What do you think of Mrs. Bennet’s support of the younger girls frivolity?

Mrs. Bennett has issues. She needs to grow up. She is living her youth through her younger daughters.

* What do you think about Jane and how she handles Mr. Bingley’s abandonment without explanation?

I agree with Amber. I feel bad for Jane. She is in turmoil though she hides it. Her stomach has to be killing her.

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* Comment on Lydia and Kitty’s behavior.
They're young, and immature. When raised by a mother like Mrs. Bennett, it's no wonder that they are only focused on balls, parties, and boys.

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But I don't like Jane and Elizabeth went through that frivolous phase. I agree Mrs. Bennett definitely encourages and nurtures it, but they are just flighty.

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* What do you think of Mr. Darcy and Mr. Wickham now?
Mr Darcy is showing more of his true colors in that he does care what others feel and is concerned about those close to him. He does have a heart, where as before it seemed more like he was a machine. Mr. Wickham....he's a jerk. He parades himself around with an air of being just and kind...yet he's just looking for another meal ticket.

* Comment on Lydia and Kitty’s behavior.
They're young, and immature. When raised by a mother like Mrs. Bennett, it's no wonder that they are only focused on balls, parties, and boys.

* Is is true still in our days that the reputation of our siblings and parents affects our dating prospects?
I completely believe it can. I had a date who after finding out who my mother was (his friends high school teacher) it went south. Although we are a little more independent with our thoughts and choices...I think we do still value what others think, so if someone says that you shouldn't date "so-in-so" because their family is _____________, the same would hold for others looking to date us.


* Why was Elizabeth so blind to Wickham’s character?
I think he presents himself as a proper man, and being that he was in the military she felt that spoke volumes about his character. People who are willing to join to serve others don't seem the type to be immature, spoiled and seedy.

* What do you think of Mrs. Bennet’s support of the younger girls frivolity?
I think it shows where she felt her priorities were..or what the priorities of the time were for young women. Find a man, court him, marry him and be settled or else you'll be *gasp* a spinster!

* What do you think about Jane and how she handles Mr. Bingley’s abandonment without explanation?
I feel bad for her! She's so soft and doesn't show her emotions..even when it's tearing her up!! She's poised and proper to a T.



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* What do you think of Mr. Darcy and Mr. Wickham now?

* Comment on Lydia and Kitty’s behavior.

* Is is true still in our days that the reputation of our siblings and parents affects our dating prospects?

* Why was Elizabeth so blind to Wickham’s character?

* What do you think of Mrs. Bennet’s support of the younger girls frivolity?

* What do you think about Jane and how she handles Mr. Bingley’s abandonment without explanation?

Feel free to comment on anything else as well.

Let the Discussion Continue....


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* Who is your favorite character so far and why?
I think my favorite character is Elizabeth because she is so sure of herself and doesn't let herself get pushed around nearly as much as Jane does.

* Which character frustrates you the most and why?
It is a toss-up between Jane and her inability to stand up for herself and Mrs. Bennett with her incessant screeching about her nerves.

* Which character do you find the most humorous and why?
Mrs. Bennett is the most humorous because I have no difficulty picturing her in my head fanning her face and whining about her nerves.

* What do you think about Mr. Darcy and Mr. Wickham’s conflict? Whose story do you believe--Mr Wickham’s version or the friends of Mr. Darcy?
It is easier to believe that Wickham is the one telling the truth especially after the way Darcy behaved at the assembly and later at Netherfield. He seems like a complete prick and it is very easy to imagine him slighting Wickham out of jealously.


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I saw Becoming Jane and I really enjoyed it!! It gave such an interesting picture of what her life would have been like!

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My apologies also for not posting on Monday.....this week has been the week from hell with work! But, I'm still getting my "me" time in reading at night. :) Here are my answers for discussion:

* Who is your favorite character so far and why?

I like Elizabeth for her strong character. I think that you catch a glimps of what Jane Austen was like at this time. A woman who although she understands the ideas and "rules" of society in regards to women, she doesn't feel completely compelled to follow them. I believe that this character took some inspiration from Jane's life. I too agree though that Mr. Bennett is fun too. He is a good match with Mrs. Bennett -anyone else and that family would have come unraveled!


* Which character frustrates you the most and why?

Mrs. Bennet -I think because she reminds me a little bit of a pageant mother. Wanting to primp and preen her daughters and marry them off. I find an immediate dislike to her also because of all the drama she creates and helps stir up.

* Which character do you find the most humorous and why?

Mr. Bennett is funny....I think he is the way he is because of having to deal with Mrs. Bennett. How he handles her and his daughters (poor man needed a son I think!!) is great.

* Comment on the society Austen writes about. For example, the tradition and roll of balls, the plight of women who do not marry, etc.

It's amazing to really sit and evaluate how far we've come as a society in terms of gender roles. I used to volunteer for a mansion in Duluth that did historical tours. One of the big things was that the home was built without a ballroom. That was because the family didn't like the idea of society coming into their home to basically just gawk and judge. They were a private family and although they entertained often, it was for their friends and family. The other thing they did, which was unheard of at the time, was leave the house to the daughters before the sons, in the event of the parent's passing. As it was, this was discovered in 1916 after the father passed away. His reasoning was that although women were expected to move out and be married in a home of their own by the ripe old age of 25, they didn't feel that this pressure was acceptable. So he left the home for any daughter who wanted it, so that either of the three wouldn't feel those "silly pressures" and be able to develop into the women they were "supposed to be". I thought that was rather neat. In reading about the balls and gender rolls in Pride and Predjuce, I see just how forward thinking the family of the mansion I volunteered for really was.


Jane Austen is an interesting character. If you want to see a neat movie, Anne Hathaway plays the roll of Jane Austen in a movie that is a biography of her life. It's called "Becoming Jane". It's really good..in my opinion...and after watching it gave me a greater appreciation for her writing and her characters she writes.

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Love the quote!! Sorry I have not posted before, I am fighting pink eye at my house!! What fun!!
I am enjoying reading this book. It moves pretty quickly.
1. Favorite character- So far its Lizzy. I like that she is strong in herself and quick witted. She holds her own with a strong male figure(Mr. Darcy).
2. Character that frustates me- I think Mr. Collins because he is just so full of his own importance!!
3.The most humorous- I think Mrs. Bennet is just so funny. She is always atwitter about something.
I am very glad that I dont live in that era. I think some parts of it was very glamorous. The getting dressed up for a ball would be fun. The manner and thought given before speaking is something we dont see much of any more.
I am glad that class ranking is not the end all in this day and time. And the thought of being dependent on anyone for my keep give me the shivers. Im glad that women can be independant if they so choose.

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This is off topic, but here is an interesting quote that fits our subject matter.

When you reread a classic, you do not see more in the book than you did before; you see more in you than there was before. Clifton Fadiman

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* Who is your favorite character so far and why?

Even though Elizabeth is the main character I think my favorite character so far is Mr. Bennett. I like his attitude towards things and the way he does not get caught up in the things of the girls lives, yet comes through like when he invite Mr. Bingley over for dinner.

* Which character frustrates you the most and why?

Mrs. Bennett probably frustrates me the most. She would drive me crazy if she were my mom or my spouse. Very controlling. Lots of drama.

Miss Lucas seems doomed for misery to be marrying just for the sake of being taken care of. She frustrates me too.

* Which character do you find the most humorous and why?

Mr. Bennett is very humorous. Elizabeth is very witty. Mr. Collins is funny but in a sad way.


* Comment on the society Austen writes about. For example, the tradition and roll of balls, the plight of women who do not marry, etc.

I am so glad we do not live in that society when women depend on men for their livelyhood and if you don't get married you are dependent on your bio family for support. Women did not have much opportunity to be who they wanted to be...if they even thought in those terms in those days. I"m sure some did.

I don't think I would have liked balls. I'm not a big group type of person and don't dance well. I would have been a Mr. Collins on the dance floor.

Austen never married but supported herself and her family with her writing. Which was unusual for her day.


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* Who is your favorite character so far and why? Elizabeth is the main character with most of the action centering around her and her opinions. She directs the movement of the story with other characters interacting with her or against her.

* Which character frustrates you the most and why? Jane seems to shoved one way and another by everyone. One wonders what she would do if left to her own devices.

* Which character do you find the most humorous and why? Mrs Bennett typical of a woman of that world, but manages to twist everything sideways. Her conversations with Mr Bennett are always at cross purposes.

* What do you think about Mr. Darcy and Mr. Wickham’s conflict? Whose story do you believe--Mr Wickham’s version or the friends of Mr. Darcy? Mr Wickham seems to be the injured party but I can not believe that Mr Darcy would act dishonourably.

* Comment on the society Austen writes about. For example, the tradition and roll of balls, the plight of women who do not marry, etc. Balls are the social occasions for men to view the females that are of marriable age. Women go to snag a man. Without marriage there is no life for a female but servitude to parents or other siblings or relatives. Men controlled the world, but women could control the men.



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OK. Here goes. I work in the morning so I wanted to post a few questions tonight.

Also, let's keep reading into Volume the Second. I have the chapters renumbered from 1 - 19, but I think some version go from Chapter 24 - 42. It is a little over 100 pages in my book. Let's start the discussion of that section on Monday, March 7th.


Background:

Jane Austen was born in England in 1775. Her father was the rector of the local parish. She wrote Pride and Prejudice under the title of First Impressions in 1796-1797. It was first published in 1813 (anonymously).

Feel free to comment on the first 23 chapters and/or respond to any of the following questions.


* Who is your favorite character so far and why?

* Which character frustrates you the most and why?

* Which character do you find the most humorous and why?

* What do you think about Mr. Darcy and Mr. Wickham’s conflict? Whose story do you believe--Mr Wickham’s version or the friends of Mr. Darcy?

* Comment on the society Austen writes about. For example, the tradition and roll of balls, the plight of women who do not marry, etc.

Have fun with the discussion. Just please do not give any spoilers if you have read ahead or seen the movies based on this book.

Enjoy!


Edited by: JAMKNITTER at: 2/27/2011 (21:17)
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Terminology varies from century to century. We do not publish books in that manner anymore. It gives brain fail situation. This happens with classics. Thank heavens we get our books one volume, or now it is called a series. We still have to wait. :0)

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DOH! it is in volumes! I just hadn't read far enough and they are quite small in my edition. So I'll be able to follow. (I seem to be missing things like this a lot...)

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Chapters are fine. In the old thread, we were told that volume one contained chapters 1-23

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My unabridged edition just has chapters. Can we go by those?


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I read "Pride and Prejudice" several years ago, but am planning to reread it so I can join in on the discussion. I know I enjoyed it when I read it the first time, so there is no doubt that reading it a second time will be prove to be just as enjoyable.

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CJ.....of course you can join! :) We're reading the first Volume (the book is divided up into three volumes) and will be discussing it on the 28th, of Feb...1 week from today. EVERYONE IS WELCOME!! :)

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May I join, too! It's been so long since I've read Pride and Prejudice, it will almost be like new!
I've got the book, so I'm starting to read today. Let me know when you are ready to discuss.

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WooHoo!! Good job!! Cant wait to get my book and start reading!!

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Here it is!! The Topic Devoted completely to Pride and Prejudice. This is a branch off of the "Classic Books" discussion topic. Let the reading commence!! :) We can post "Chapter Assignments" and "Discussion Dates" on here. If you are joining late, just try to catch up to where we are and join the group!! The more the merrier!



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