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KISSMYHIPSBYBY
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You know, if you need help knowing how certain foods affect you, you can track many nutrients here on Sparkpeople. In addition to just calories, carbs, fat and protein, I also track calcium, potassium, sodium,iron, etc...
This gives me a better indicate as to how the foods i eat are affecting my body. For example, whenever I eat processed foods, I go over my recommended sodium intake. Also, if I eat spinach or strawberries, I get enough Iron.
In any case try it. It is free, accurate and it really helps de-mystify this whole nutrition thingy! BTW, there is nothing wrong with pasta, but then again, you probably already came to that conclusion by now, no?lol ;)

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I forgot this one:
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Love your signature, BETTER_THAN_AVG. I LOVE Chesterton

Stick around here and you will learn stuff about nutrition. Check out these websites for interesting and informative factoids on health and food:

www.drbenkim.com/

www.mercola.com/

www.whfoods.com/

And you can sign up for their email newsletters as well to keep you busy learning. AND anything you come across that confuses, excites, or just sticks in your craw, you are welcome to post it here and we will be GLAD to discuss it.
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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I need to take a crash course nutrition class!

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It's not just about calories (maybe you already know this) it's MAINLY about food quality and nutrition. Many good fats will help you burn calories even though those fat calories will add up on the nutrition tracker. Not all fats are the same. IF (IF, IF) you want to stay healthy while losing weight you MUST factor in nutrition. And in order to efficiently do that you have to do some study and research.

Fats: stay AWAY from hydrogenated oils of ANY kind!! Lard is NOT bad for you!! Almost all refined oils in the grocery store ARE BAD FOR YOU!! Butter is NOT bad for you! Eat all the avocados you like...within reason lol!!

I just mention this fat thing because that is where a lot of calories are and many people, working to keep their calorie level down will sacrifice good fats. Starchy carbs also bring the calorie count up. In my opinion it is better to sacrifice the starchy carbs than the good fats in order to keep your calorie count in check.
just sayin
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Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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1/6/11 1:41 P

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Ok, so spaghetti, along with veggies and fruit, will not be counterproductive to my daily exercises, right? So long as I remain within my calorie range?

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I'm good, you're good, we're all good
Time to eat!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Cool! Let's just sweep it al under the rug then, shall we? lol
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HA! I just re-read mine and I see where the misunderstanding is. Sheesh. sorry ladies. Nothing like the pot calling the kettle black sort of thing, eh?? will follow my second gut reaction next time and keep mum when I'm feeling my ire raise. :)

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Fit_Hawg~~no, no I thought your posts were great. I enjoy reading posts that just state an idea or thought w/o being emotional and making a person feeling bad for disagreeing. Yours were spot on.
cheers,
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Well she did qualify "flaming" with "potentially" so that does makes sense...lol

I just want everyone here to know that I am not gluten intolerant nor do I even stand on that issue in this thread. Some people REALLY are gluten intolerant--'nother story.

It's easy to pigeonhole people (I've done it myself more than I want to admit) when they argue a point. It's easy to think they have some particular soap box. But usually we are wrong when we do that.

Yes, Laura is so right. We all need to read through the posts carefully. I am quite guilty of not reading all the way through a post before I reply...not good; I will work on that.

I love this team. I love Laura's team. Don't want to get uppity with anybody. We are all here to learn and have friendships.

Think I'll have buckwheat pasta with beans tonight! Hmmmm... what for a veggie? Chard?

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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FIT_ARTIST
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I'm not trying to make anyone feel bad. I would hardly say I'm flaming either. lol
Maybe you should relax and re-read the posts.

Edited by: FIT_ARTIST at: 1/5/2011 (18:09)
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I think what ANI is trying to say, is that North Americans, as a whole, generally just eat too much grain, bread and starchy carbs. Especially from simple carb sources. I also agree. Some people can tolerate more grain in their diet. (ie most men because of their faster metabolisms for one), but the rest of us just get fatter.
My diet is immpeccable (my Naturopath's words. lol) and when I go without grain of any type, I don't even go through withdrawls or detox. Nothing to detox. My diet is GREAT.
Anyhow, I think we could all do with less grain. And, I think most of us could probably live quite nicely without it at all.
My response to the original poster was that if he was eating a variety of foods and was acheiving his goals, then that was great. Go for it.
For me. It would never work.

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I understand what you're insinuating and I've heard it 100 times from my supposedly gluten intolerant family members. I just find it frustrating that people apply such logic to these situations. OF COURSE if you're just eating lean protein and vegetables your body is going to feel better! OF COURSE if you're conscientious of what you're eating you're going to feel better. It's not the grain that is making you feel bad, it's an overall lifestyle.


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ANIDUCK
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_DANGERM, you are also right that I did say to go off of grain for a week but that was not instructions for a lifestyle. that was more for a kind of hypothetical test to see how our bodies react. I'm sorry you misunderstood and I should have made myself more clear.

And, if there is something that we have been eating, anything at all, that we then find out through testing that we are allergic too; if we stop eating that thing it is VERY common to experience discomfort and even feel sick as our bodies detox from that substance. This doesn't mean we are dying or even doing something wrong. It's just a natural phenomenon. But, as I implied, this is something you would do alongside the advice of a doctor.
-annie

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Oops, well, I didn't say stop right now today and only eat grains "once a week". I really didn't say that. My post is simply saying that basically, we eat too much grain in light of wanting to lose weight and be healthier. Just too much. I recommended one serving a DAY and MAYBE going a day once in a while without a grain serving IF, (IF!) you really want to nip the extra weight in the bud.

You are absolutely right to say that a person ought not go cold turkey as doing that will trigger cravings and possibly do negative things to our metabolism. But it never hurts to cut down on the things that are sabotaging our goals; never hurts. And it never hurts to learn about better eating habits and try a thoughtfully, easy-does-it turning towards them.

I stick by my belief that we, as a food culture, eat way too much grain and that when people work on cutting those down their health improves.

I don't think we should stop eating grains all together--never meant to imply that. Good, whole grains of all varieties should be in our diets--just not so much of only a couple of them; namely corn and wheat.

This is just my present opinion. If I learn better I will be back to confess!

That's right, corn is a grain; marketed as a vegetable but botanically, and the way our bodies process it, it's a grain

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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1/5/11 1:28 P

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Thanks for all the info, guys. Im looking for something cheap and easy to make. So, spaghetti came to my mind.

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have you tried substituting spaghetti squash for the pasta?? I didn't used to like it all, but I gave it a try again last summer and it was REALLY good. I didn't make my own sauce, but used muir glen's organic sauce and it was very, very tasty, and I topped it with some fresh feta cheese (my weakness) The kids didn't like it and I made them their whole wheat pasta for their sauce, but my hubby and I loved the squash version.We grow our own spaghetti squash, so its even more special....

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I'm sorry Annie but I COMPLETELY disagree with you. If you stop eating any one food group for an entire week you will crave it. That's not very good logic.


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I made my own sauce for the spaghetti to take to a Japanese family's house for New Year's Day and made whole wheat rolls, cut and put back in the oven with homemade garlic butter (there was a sale on garlic bulbs.) They raved about the food, but had quite a discussion as to how to translate "whole wheat" into Japanese. Wheat is "mugi", but the son thought it best to say "100 %" "mugi", the dad "zenbu (all)""mugi".


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For me, I think most of the "junk" we put on spaghetti is the most healthy part; unless it's thick, creamy, calorie ridden, flour thickened stuff. But a basic marinara or meat sauce is very good for you.

Laura is right to point out that IF we are going to have pasta it should be whole grain. But even so, if you are having a hard time losing weight you might consider cutting back on all grain dishes. One grain serving a day is all most of us need and even skipping a day of grain is a good idea if weight loss is your plan.

I am amazed that people haven't discovered how much grain adds to weight gain. Unless you are a very active, very strong, athletic person under the age of 40 you will only put on weight eating grains.

Just go off grains completely for 1 week and see what happens. The first thing that you will notice is that you crave them almost uncontrollably! They do that to us and it's a sure sign that something is out of balance.

This may be my opinion but it's not only my opinion. Many others have found this to be true.

Best of health to all of you,
-annie

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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Thank you. I LOVE spaghetti. However, like you said, I dont put a lot of junk on it.
Thanks for the feedback :)

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I'm Italian and I say YES! Choose whole grain varieties and stay away from white flour pasta.
As a matter of fact, the first time I lost a bunch of weight (after my first baby), I ate pasta EVERY SINGLE night for dinner. As long as you are getting your fruits, veggies and protein, and you are achieving your weight loss or fitness goals then go for it. Pasta can be served in so many ways; so many healthy variations.
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Is it ok to eat spaghetti every day so long as I eat the other food groups, as well?
Thanks,
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