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1/3/11 10:08 P

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In my opinion....

pastas - Ezekiel or other TRUE whole grain pastas are clean, they are still a processed food as they have to be in order to make the pasta but clean.

whole grain breads - Ezekiel bread would be a yes

miso - Yes

tofu - Yes

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1/3/11 12:42 A

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I have read that cooking the goitrin foods reduces the goitrin content. I'm not a big fan of raw cabbage, cauliflower or broccoli anyway.

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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1/3/11 12:09 A

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According to the diet solution program wich I use as my guide...they say stay away from soy products(tofu) because of the estrogen hormone in soy products. Also they say that even whole wheat grain are processed so they reccomend to stay away from those. I dod ezekiel sprouted grain bread, sweet potatoes and organic brown rice. hope this helps!

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1/2/11 12:49 P

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If you have thyroid issues it is important to stay away from soy. Also, if you have thyoid issues you need to be sure and stay away from - or cook - any goitrin (sp?) foods. Like cabbage, broccoli, brussel sprouts, kale, etc. You can find a full list of goitrin foods on the web.

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1/2/11 10:38 A

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Here's an article by Dr. Mark Hyman that has some positive things to say about soy. For those of you who like edamame and tofu you will like what he says. It's made me think a bit too

drhyman.com/dr-oz-show-soy/

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1/2/11 8:52 A

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Personally, I don't eat tofu or any unfermented soy products (like edamame, soy milk etc.). Here is another link why: www.naturalnews.com/022630.html
I would also echo Amber 100% just stick with unprocessed, natural foods, whole grains, raw fruits, veggies, limit (or avoid) sugars.

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1/1/11 10:35 P

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Great point Amber; you said it right!

Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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1/1/11 10:32 P

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Generally if you are eating a 'clean' diet then you're eating foods in as natural a state as possible; i.e. non-processed. If you're eating a processed foods diet you may have to be concerned about hidden soy, but if you are eating a processed foods diet, then you are not eating 'clean'.

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1/1/11 9:26 P

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I mean that something called "isolated soy protein" is an ingredient in many refined and common food stuffs found in supermarkets. And there are many, many so-called "healthy" powders, shakes, diet drinks, supplements that are all made with some form of highly processed soy or soy components. These products are not really healthy for us. Rather than sound off being Miss no-it-all,
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I will just post a link here that I was just reading for another SP thread. This is a well balanced article on soy by a man who, I think, ought to know because he is a doctor AND a Korean who has had plenty of soy in his culinary culture. Read this all the way through and see what you think.
drbenkim.com/soy-health.htm

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1/1/11 8:53 P

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LOVELEIGHARTIST, I find it hard to avoid soy because I am vegan.

ANIDUCKTHISTLE, What do you mean by soy is everywhere?
I generally mean where it is the main ingredient, like tofu.

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1/1/11 7:52 P

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I am not understanding the question. Do you mean why should we avoid soy? 'Cuz I think it's hard to avoid soy--it's EVERYWHERE!!

Edited by: ANIDUCK at: 1/1/2011 (19:53)
Hospitals are terrific for traumatic care; for acute care. They do a really, really good job in saving lives when it’s a sudden bleeding emergency. But in terms of chronic care, they’re terrible; (that is) in terms of the illnesses that most people have, endure, that cost the most money, that last the longest and ultimately die from. -Dr. Andrew Saul


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1/1/11 7:17 P

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Hello, I am new to this group and clean eating so please pardon my question... why is it hard to avoid soy? Are you vegetarian? I used to be vegetarian and tried going all the way to vegan. Unfortunately I found out the hard way that I am allergic to soy. Go figure! So now I am omnivore. Anyways, hope you don't mind my asking why you can't avoid soy.

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Yeah, I've heard about the negatives of soy, miso is made from soy aswell. I try to avoid soy, but it gets difficult.

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1/1/11 10:17 A

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The whole grain breads and pastas are usually OK if they have clean ingredients. You don't want things with chemicals and preservatives and things you can't pronounce. Look for the fewest ingredients possible.

A lot of us on the team avoid soy due to the health risks. If you look at some of the older posts in the general discussion you will find threads on this.

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1/1/11 8:01 A

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My understanding is that whole grain bread and pasta are okay in moderation. Tofu is a definite yes. The miso, not sure what is in miso - check the ingredients. Though I would like to hear what others have to say.

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Are these foods eaten on a 'clean' diet,.
- pasta's,
- whole grain breads,
- miso,
- tofu??

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