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4/29/12 1:06 A

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IMO the Eat Clean Diet and/or Paleo/Primal diets are the way to go. They teach you to eat whole, natural foods, where as Atkins, SBD, HCG, WW do not.

Why mess with what God intended for us to eat?

If you're lactose intolerant, don't do dairy.
If you're a vegan/vegetarian, eliminate the meat.

I also am not a fan of Tosca's use of soy...primarily because of all the GMOs out there. As it is, soy can jack with your hormones... then when you add pesticides to it.... Pbbbt.

Sadly, unless you are in a position to afford nothing but organic foods, you will find soy/corn in nearly everything you eat. As well as sugar.

Really, like others have said, you just have to find what works best for you. No two bodies are the same. :)

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1/16/12 12:57 A

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I would love to go to a doctor, get a blood test and have a prescription for the perfect diet for me, wouldnt that be nice?

Isn't it funny how all of a sudden you can look down at your stomach and wonder to yourself, "Who put that there"?


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1/16/12 12:55 A

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I am on belly fat cure and just bought Atkins for a new you cookbook, lots of good ideas and recipes. I did that plan a long time ago and hated it. It was just too bizaare but this looks a whole lot better.

Isn't it funny how all of a sudden you can look down at your stomach and wonder to yourself, "Who put that there"?


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3/8/11 11:26 P

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I've been working on with my nutritionist and through food diary tracking I have found that I have a problem with dairy. In addition I have to limit my intake of carbohydrates. The Paleo diet sounds like something that might work for me along with the eating clean principles I try to follow. I'm doing so much better in avoiding processed foods but it is a process like anything else. Just find what works for you and your system the best.

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12/26/10 4:11 P

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I think the red meat thing or the fatty meat thing is the biggest misconception about the Atkins diet. There's the whole "OMGZ, I can eat hamburgers and bacon and sausage and cheeeeeeeeze!" and that's not really the point.

IMHO, I think the biggest problem with red meat isn't red meat itself, but what farmers are allowed to do to the animal to make it more profitable. Pump a cow full of hormones and antibiotics so it'll grow faster and force it to eat corn so it'll end up fatter than if it ate the grass it's meant to eat? I don't want to think what kinds of side effects could be caused by eating meat full of growth hormones. Yuck.

Okay, now I'm off my high horse!

I agree with CindyTW about a more sane, healthy, and sustainable way to approach Atkins.

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12/26/10 2:56 P

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Well it doesn't necessarily exclude it but it doesn't really promote it if you look at their meal plans. You can do without it. What I would do is more of a chicken, fish, lean meat, olive oil, avocado, and veggie type of plan. It is about purging the sugar/starch, then adding high fiber low glycemic fruits and veggies a little at a time to see what your body tolerates best.

Right now I am trying Cooler 1 to see if that will do it. I have not tried anything like this before.

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12/26/10 2:30 P

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I've always been under the assumption that the Atkins diet utilizes a lot of red meat. Since I don't eat red meat, I've never been interested in trying the diet or looking into it further.

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12/22/10 6:18 P

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I have always felt best on Atkins or South Beach type diets, because I have Celiac disease. When i was first diagnosed I could not handle it as the fat to energy conversion did not happen. I was miserable and tired. Now I am starting to think a Paleo, or Atkins approach may be best. I am borderline hypothyroid and having a real hard time losing. South Beach promotes the processed stuff a lot and since I can't handle dairy anymore either is a lot harder.

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12/20/10 7:01 P

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A lot of Paleo people prefer to follow the Primal Blueprint because of both your opinions. Primal Blueprint includes dairy as well as wild rice to a limited extent. I chose the strict Paleo/non-dairy because of one simple thing, I am lactose intolerant, lol.

The only issue I have with Paleo is getting enough calories in ironically. I find I usually have to fill up on almonds for an evening snack to make sure I get at least over 1,200. I think one thing is that I cook very simple meals. Now that I finished moving, I plan on exploring some Paleo recipes offered here that sound pretty good.

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12/20/10 3:52 P

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oh! Yes! I couldn't give up my dairy either...

You're right. I like SBD but I also "adapted" it to fit my own preferences. I don't eat artificial sweeteners etc. or grains so that was changes I made on my own.
I think if we take a diet as a healthy lifestyle choice and make choices that are good for us as individuals we THEN have something we can live with for years to come. Not someone else's idea od a "good diet".

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12/20/10 1:58 P

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Funny how each plan still has good and bad parts. There is no one perfect plan - just what works for your body.

I like the concept of Paleo - but I refuse to give up dairy

WW works for people - but doesn't really teach how to eat healthy. If your in your points your good.

HCG has amazing success - but it doesn't last.

Atkins works - as long as your willing to increase your cholesterol levels.

South beach is fine - but tends to pitch their processed products. A lot.

I personally take to best of each, and do my own thing. It works - I can still live life!

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12/19/10 11:11 A

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The paleo diet actually makes sense to me. I think we all eat too much grain/wheat. Makes us fat. Even "healthy" grains are still fattening. Our bodies actually can thrive quite well without bread and the likes.

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I do something similar to Atkins but much healthier. The problem with Atkins is it limits your fruits and veggies which you need so much for all your vitamins and minerals. I follow the Paleo diet. Basically all I eat is: meat, poultry, fish, fruits, veggies, seeds, nuts and eggs. It follows a "hunter/gatherer" premise. I feel a 100% better since I started a few months back. Things that have improved: health, workouts, sleep, general attitude and perspective. The single greatest change though for me was my hunger level. Before, I used to seem to be hungry all the time and now I am not. The whole Paleo/Primal way of eating is based on insulin levels so when they are levels all the time, everything functions as it should. I chose this path because of the medical evidence.

What I recommend is that you read and research and find what works best for you. Good luck!

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12/15/10 12:48 P

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LOL! Typo! Shoulda been 40/40/20.

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12/14/10 11:29 P

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Nancy... just wondering. How do you come up with 40/40/40? Should the numbers add up to 100?
And, I agree on the Atkins. Avoiding entire food groups seems weird.

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I've found that a 40/40/40 split (pro, carb, fat) is good for most people. Some of us tweak it past that, but I've never seen anyone suffer ill results from this split.

My feelings on Atkins are that any diet that leaves out entire food groups should be avoided. I don't know what the "new" Atkins is, but the old one put people into ketosis which was a strain on the liver.

IMHO, WW is the healthiest/best weight loss program out there for a myriad of reasons. The new program is better than ever- plenty of food with a focus on produce.

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12/14/10 6:56 P

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I don't think the Atkins diet is at all healthy. Many swear by it though, but that is just my personal opinion. I like a diet full of whole natural fruits and veggies. Very small amounts of meat if any.



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I would agree 100% with Laura, if you're going to do anything like that, don't go with Atkins -- I don't see any health value to it whatsoever. However, with South Beach, it truly is a good, healthy way to eat. Personally, I eat intuitively but tend to lean toward clean eating naturally. I bought and have Tosca's eat clean diet recharged and agree a lot with the principles minus the sugar thing. I don't think of any food as evil (and include sugar in that category) and I tend to go where my hunger takes me which again, normally tends to be clean, whole, unprocessed foods. I find anymore if I sweeten anything it is with honey or pure maple syrup. I just don't have a taste for the refined stuff.

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12/14/10 6:50 P

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I think it depends on how you approach the Atkins diet. I've never done it myself, but from what I understand, it's not meant to be a long-term zero-carb diet. It's meant to reset your metabolism and then help you add carbs back in until you reach your optimal carb level for your body. Of course, once you figure that out, you're supposed to maintain that. I think if you're eating clean, though, that's easy to do. It's really hard for me personally to get a ton of carbs on any given day if I'm eating whole foods.

I think it can be safe if you do it clean -- no Atkins bars, no processed meats, etc. Focus on clean meats, and if you eat a fattier meat, it's really important that you make sure it at least was not treated with hormones or antibiotics, if not grass-fed. If you can't afford that kind of meat (like me), I'd stick to lean cuts and add fat in other ways.

Anyway, those are my thoughts on the situation.

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I apparently didn't read the last part of your post. I personally think the right levels are the ones that work for you. I tried super-low-carb, and I was always disappointed that I couldn't eat fruit. I love fruit, so that didn't fly with me. I added more carbs, and my cravings are down. That's how I figure it's right for me.

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I don't really feel that ATkins is a realistic or even a really safe diet. SBD I am currently doing. It is similar to the Mediterranean Diet. It uses whole foods. The first two weeks is a detox from unhealthy carbs (which I had already been doing for two years, so I didn't actually have ANY detox effects such as tiredness, fatigue...). I have just found out that I am hypothyroid; slow metabolism means I have to work harder to lose weight or even maintain weight. Tosca diet is also clean (although I agree with all of her principles and don't like certain aspects of the Eat Clean Diet (like all the SOY in her recipes for one). Jillian Michael's I have not tried; simply because she is a personal trainer and in no way is she really qualified to make diet choices for the masses (again, I also don't believe in HER for the fact of her MASS marketing of diet pills, even though she CLAIMS there is "no magic diet pill")
Gosh! No wonder you are finding it confusing!

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12/14/10 4:58 P

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I have read South Beach diet, Atkins, Jillian Michaels Master Your Metabolism, and Tosca Reno Eat Clean Diet, and Skinny Bitches (Vegan diet). Just want to see what works for people. I know everybody is different. I am eating clean now. I admit I have a few slips here and there but for the most part I try to eat clean whole foods. Quit the white flour, white sugar and I am trying to cut down on carbs or at least all processed foods. I am just confused. You read one diet for instance Tosca Reno and she has whole grains in her diet, with fruits, veggies, lean meats etc. I just bought The New Atkins For A New You book and have been reading it. I love my oatmeal and ground flaxseed every morning. I love my Ezekial bread, just confused. What is the normal carb, protien, fat ratio for a normal diet. I am not looking to lose weight just maintain but just wonder what is the healthy range.



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