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7/28/13 11:59 P

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Hi Happy Hen, thank you for your reply. I'm going to try to do this to the letter at least for the first two Cycles. I really want to see if this will help my chronic back inflammation.
I"m combining this with The Harcombe Diet, eating only the things that are allowed on both plans. Harcombe has no fruit in Phase 1, also no caffeine.

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7/28/13 7:02 P

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Hi Sunny ~ If you truly want to follow the Virgin Diet to the letter, to get the very best results, I'd say that all dairy is out... That being said, however, once you've completed Cycle 1 and 2, and are on Cycle 3, if you want a very small amount of dairy, and didn't have a negative reaction to it in Cycle 2, I'd say it would probably be OK, but it's been my experience, that once you've deleted those 7 Hi Fi foods from your diet, you most likely won't want to bring them back... This may not be the answer you were hoping for, but I hope it helped.

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7/27/13 10:46 A

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Hello
I hope I'm putting this question in the right place. Is butter OK? I found myself using it as a treat (yes, nibbling on small chunks of butter) on The Harcombe Diet, where butter is allowed. But the Virgin Diet says no dairy so I assume that includes butter?
I live in Greece where we use loads of extra virgin olive oil for cooking and salads, so I don't need butter as a cooking fat, but it was (for me) a yummy treat.

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3/29/13 4:52 P

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I think only malt vinegar are out. Just make sure the vinegar is not high in sugar. ideal vinegar is natural apple cider vinegar (the kind with the residue on the bottom) and balsamic vinegar.You can also get coconut vinegar which I am told tastes great. You can use rice vinegar also but try and find brown rice vinegar.

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3/28/13 3:00 P

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I'm not sure about red wine vinegar - I suspect it's okay in small amounts. As far as apple cider vinegar, I only use Braggs raw apple cider vinegar and I believe it's fine as well.

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3/26/13 10:29 P

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I'm still trying to absorb all the information I've read so far, and am wondering about Red Wine Vinegar... In or out??? It also says it contains naturally occurring sulfites... What about regular apple cider vinegar? I apologize if this has been answered somewhere else... If so, I haven't found it yet.

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2/1/13 4:57 P

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It is usually the lactose/the protein in dairy that people are intolerant too. It is best to buy grass-fed ghee if you can find it. Amazon has a few brands on there site also. When you remove the milk solids it removes the parts that people are usually intolerant too.

I know I have some sort of intolerance with milk although I have not tested dairy since my body has started to repair itself and remove the antibodies. I can only imagine how bad the reaction would be when I reacted to eggs pretty bad, and didn't know I had any sort of reaction to them

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2/1/13 3:00 P

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Ghee? I read in her book that ghee is OK because it has no milk solids. But I am extremely wary of trying it since I know I have a severe reaction to lactose, whey and casine. Is anyone else sensitive to dairy yet doing OK with ghee?

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1/12/13 3:36 P

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I responded in your other post :)

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1/12/13 2:18 P

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Sorry, I started a new topic and guess I should have asked the question here.

Does anyone use a spray type fake butter for veggies or is it allowed?

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1/11/13 6:37 P

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Yes JJ suggests using it. My bottle arrived today. I'm sure you heard about the benefits on Dr. OZ

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1/11/13 6:01 P

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Does anyone know about red palm oil? It was just on dr oz and sounds amazing.

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1/10/13 11:28 P

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Sugar is sugar... all sugar has to go. You shouldn't ad more than 5g's if you do. It will make it hard, if not impossible to cure sugar cravings if you give yourself sugar. It always starts with a little bit. I would suggest you give it up for at least the first 21 days. It also raises your blood sugar level. The key is to keep your blood sugar levels balanced

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1/10/13 8:35 P

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I hate to ask, because I'm a little afraid of the verdict and am sure I will use this food anyway because I honestly believe it's a super-food, but what's JJs take on honey?

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1/5/13 2:16 P

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I bought the coconut aminos also. Did want to take a chance with something I pretty sure is not safe. As for the spices. They should be fine. I think one of the ones that has flour hidden in it to expand it is dry ground mustard. If it lists the ingredients and it only lists for example garlic, then it should be fine

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1/5/13 10:51 A

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Are garlic powder and chili powder? Are there any spices that aren't?



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1/4/13 10:54 P

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Good question, Dana. Well, there is coconut aminos that are definitely wheat-free. I have some and they are tasty and make a good sub for soy sauce/tamari.

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1/4/13 10:22 P

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What I dont understand is how she can say tamari is okay. Even if its wheat/gluten free... Its still made from soybean!

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1/3/13 11:19 P

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I pulled out my Xylitol, which is Xyla, Emerald Forest and googled it and it is indeed made from birch, so I'm ok. I only use it about once a week, say on a Sun. afternoon, when I sit down and relax with a cup of coconut milk cocoa, made with cocoa powder and Xyla. "The Emerald Forest Xyla is made from U.S. birch trees,"

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1/3/13 10:12 P

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Her FAQ said it should be avoided unless its actually from birch not corn. I am not taking any sweeteners right now. I was looking for something long term that is safe when a recipe requires a little to balance out bitterness. Yes she says as long as it is under 5g's it does not effect your blood sugar.

I am still trying to figure out what vinegars are okay. I was going to send her another post and ask. I think distilled and balsamic are.. not sure about natural apple cider (would think so when it balances your blood sugar)

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1/3/13 9:32 P

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Thanks for the helpful info on sweeteners. You may find you can just let all sweeteners go for 3 weeks. I eat sweet sweet apples and sweet potatoes to get my sweet fix, or occasionally some cocoa made with xylitol I think xylitol's ok if you keep it to a minimum...eat much of it and you will get gas!


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1/3/13 9:27 P

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Yes sunflowers seeds are ok and as far as I know are excellent food from everything I've heard. Best to get them raw or minimally processed. You can toast them on a low heat in the oven, maybe put some wheat-free tamari on them.

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1/3/13 7:38 P

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do y'all think sunflower seeds are ok?

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1/3/13 2:10 P

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So in the book it is okay to use xylitol, but she actually does not recommended this sweetener in her FAQ on her site. Frustrating after I just ordered some online and now have to return it.

Here is why. So some xylitol is actually okay, but as times change producers find cheaper ways to make a product. Originally xylitol came from birch (this one is okay), but now most actually come from that pesky corn. It hard to get away from that stuff.

Also stevia you have to be careful with. Make sure it does not have maltodextrin or dextrose which is a bulking agent from corn. So make sure its 100% stevia. Its frustrating when her book says one thing than she says otherwise in her faq.

She does also recommend a sweetener called Lo Han (it comes from monk fruit)
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-p
remium-purelo-lo-han-sweetener-monk-fr
uit-7-oz-200-grams-pwdr

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1/2/13 6:30 P

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They seem like they should be okay. Something good for a snack, once and awhile. I got some by edwards and sons (the only flavors I think are okay on the plan were vegetable and plain) the rest had extra stuff in them.

Another thing I noticed is she says organic chicken broth was okay, but out of the 3 stores I went to I only found ONE brand that didnt actually add sugar and other things that are not okay on the plan

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12/31/12 9:39 P

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Here's a thread for asking each other for opinions whether a certain food meets the criteria of the Virgin Plan, Cycle 1.

For instance, today I think I found something great, but maybe I'm stretching it. Beanfields gluten-free Bean Rice Chips. Ingredients: Black Beans, Navy Beans, Long Grain Rice, High Oleic Sunflower or Sunflower Oil. Sea Salt. Virgin, or not? http://www.beanfieldssnacks.com/

That's not the best oil in the world. And you certainly wouldn't want to eat these often or eat many of them, because you won't lose weight eating carbs. Still, they seem just the thing to dip in guacamole or salsa.

My vote is they are ok if you don't eat many or often.

Edited by: MAYQUEENE at: 12/31/2012 (21:43)
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