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5/2/12 12:02 P

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I'm not saying never use a prong collar. Whether they work at all or do damage depends in part on how sensitive a dog is to pain. Breeds that are bred for a higher pain threshhold will often pull against the pressure very hard and ignore the pain and it can even make them aggressive. The breeds that are more sensitive will not pull hard but it is still possible to accidentally pull hard on them and do damage, for instance if someone steps on the leash or the leash gets stuck on something. For this reason prong collars should not be used with Flexi-leashes, either.
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5/2/12 2:09 A

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I guess I am an exception here. I do use a prong collar on my 99 pd. dog because I have RA, and my hands are weak. If used correctly, the prong collar doesn't damage, and he learned right away not to pull. (My friend who is a dog instructor taught me the right way to use one) He has done a lot better so there are times I can use a reg. leash on him. Is your dog nurtured? If not, then that can help calm him down, especially when he gets passed the puppy stage.

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5/1/12 12:43 P

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Choke or prong collars don't help much with that size dog anyway and they choke the dog/can cause neck punctures. If you need power steering get a Halti which fits around your dog's head. They are also better to get a dog used to when they are still young. They are comfortable for the dog unless the dog is pulling hard.
Try to get your dog in a puppy class where you can practice with other dogs around and find one with an instructor who is positive and friendly (watch a class first that they teach).
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5/1/12 10:22 A

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Thanks for the responses. I will try the treats. The dog park I take him to does have large and small breeds separated.

I've been working with him a lot on his manners and making sure he listens to me. I told my husband that if you are going to own a 200 pound dog you have to make sure they are well trained before they "outgrow" you. So far by holding on to his collar when we meet other dogs I can still control him - but he is only about 90 pounds right now. I really don't want to use a choke or prong collar with him. I will definitely give the treats a try.

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5/1/12 12:54 A

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I agree that luring him away with treats is the best option. Soon he'll be bigger and stronger than you and you may have trouble holding on when he decides to go the other direction. Puppies that age are a little bit like teenagers. They enjoy the company of their own more than yours for a while and it is important for their development that they learn good social skills with other dogs. Just make sure his play mates are always at least medium-size or he could accidentally do damage. The good dog parks have separate areas for small and large breeds.
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4/30/12 9:58 P

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Maybe training Treats, waving the treat by his nose to distract him, and getting back into commands? :) Works for my Pom
He sounds sweet our neighbor had one, he was hugh, but a teddy bear.


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Yeah I am hoping he outgrows it - I'm just hoping I get him to say hello and then walk on LOL

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Just sounds like exuberant puppy behavior to me. He'll calm down after awhile. They're just playful and fascinated with the idea that there are others like them on the planet at that age!



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I have a six month old mastiff named Maximus. He is the cutest sweetest dog ever and learned all his basic commands early. I have been a stay at home doggy mom since we got him so I have spent time training him. He does very well on his leash with two exceptions.

1. When we get to the dog park - although last trip he did much better and
2. When we encounter other dogs while walking.

He isn't aggressive - he just wants to play. He is only 6 months old. Tonight I asked the other couple walking their dog if the dogs could say hi to each other and then explained that Max is young and wants to play when he sees another dog. Max and the other dog sniffed hello for a couple minutes but when it was time to go it took a few seconds to get him back on track for the walk.

Any suggestions?

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