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2/4/13 10:59 A

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I'm not sure why I thought of this, but I started wondering about the timeline of Oswin/Clara and realized that this was a bit out of place.

I am assuming that Amy and Rory are in "current" time with the viewers, so around 2012. They are kidnapped and transported to the Dalek ship. The Doctor could have been anywhen, so that doesn't bother me. When they are sent to the planet, they find a ship called the Alaska...so we have to assume that this is a much later time in Earths future.

So, when did the Daleks get time travel?

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9/11/12 11:24 A

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I really enjoyed Oswyn's introduction, though I adore Amy and Rory, so I'll be sad to see them go. Still, their story is coming to a natural end, and the time has come. I'm just psyched that there's plenty of time to do a proper exit for them and make it really good.

This episode might not have been perfect, but it was a great, adventurous start to the season. I'm hoping it's a good sign for things to come :D

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9/10/12 10:00 A

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When she said "remember me" I instantly thought of Amy at her wedding screaming "I remember you raggedy man" -- anyone? anyone?

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9/9/12 4:20 P

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That's kind of funny - she makes everyone forget about him and all she want is that he remembers her. OK, funny isn't a good word for it. It's just nice little "seasoning" to the episode, love it. emoticon

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9/8/12 11:53 P

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Watched this episode again tonight and my favorite scene is when when Oswin looks into the camera and says "Remember me."

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I love that you used "prattle". Great word choice. Not that I felt you were prattling (that's something Amy would do...lol--you know I couldn't resist that).

I've tried to explain my deep loathing for Amy, but I'm not sure that it doesn't just sound...superficial. Much of it is Karen Gillan herself. She's just horrendous. A pretty face and not much substance. I've always appreciated that British television doesn't just pick "pretty, plastic" people like American shows do. Martha was about as close to that as they'd come but she still had a few faults. Karen comes along and I felt like BBCA totally caved to the American desire for perfection (except of course Matt's foot face--he looks like a footprint). To me, Amy's only shining moment was during Beast Below when she made the connection between the beast as the last of its kind and the Doctor. I never really "buy into" her as a character. Truly the way she pouts her lips, and throws her head, she acts like she's on drugs or drunk and is depending solely on her looks for any sort of credibility. If she and Rory were just buddies, I'd be okay with the way she treats him, but she's supposed to love him above all others, and I think she treats him like crap. If a man treated a woman the way she treats him, women would be p!ssed off. She comes off as a "party girl." Paris Hilton/Lindsey Lohan of the Whoverse.

Okay, okay, I too could prattle endlessly on the nuances involved with my dislike of her, but I shan't. Sorry, couldn't resist the "shan't." It just seemed appropriate and something I've always wanted to say. lol

On a positive note, I hope Oswin stays as Oswin...brilliant! Love her! Oh, I'll overlook that you don't love Donna. My fave. I love the way she interacted with DT--such comedic timing. No sappy crushes. Just mates traveling out and about time and space. She had the maturity not to be a gullible sidekick--not that she wasn't vulnerable, but she had much more depth than Martha.

Wow, I think I just wrote a dissertation. Cheeky1000, Ph.D in Whovian Companion Sociology.

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9/8/12 1:08 A

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Now I know you don't have any love for Amy, but the girl did sacrifice herself in "Amy's Choice" because she did not want to live a life that did not include Rory...

...of course some people, ahem, would say that was a selfish act and she should have been thinking about the baby.

All in good fun...I still don't get why people hate Amy so much...Rory wouldn't be so likable if he didn't have her picking on him all the time.

Now I will get some people jumping on me for this, but Donna is on the bottom of the list for me. The only memorable thing for me is the one scene we all love with the two of them talking through the windows. My problem with Martha was her crush on the Doctor, it was way to soon after Rose.

Sorry, I seemed to prattle on....(and now I am wondering where I got "prattle" from, I'm leaving it even though I don't talk that way)

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9/7/12 10:51 P

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Hi Matt,

I thought about that, but I think she was so busy brainwashing herself into forgetting that she'd been installed in a Dalek that she wouldn't remember other things like that. I'm not entirely sold on the idea that she is Jenny (it would be cool, but...), it was just one way zi could see it as a possibility. Just a thought.

I saw the same episode of The Nerdist. I think it was cop out on Amy's part. She should have given Rory the choice. Of course, I can't stand Amy, so in my eyes she can't do anything right. LOL I still think Rory waiting for her for 2000 years trumps her "martyr" act.

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9/7/12 11:35 A

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My daughter and I watched an episode of The Nerdist where they said something to the effect that Rory would win any argument with Amy by using the line "I waited 2000 years"....Guess they were wrong.....

As to Oswin being Jenny...She has the proper banter, but wouldn't she recognize the name "Doctor"? of course, she could have been affected by the nano things...

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9/6/12 9:32 P

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Sara...."ood on the loo" Too funny! Great!

Neri..."nerdgasm!" LOVE it!

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9/6/12 2:09 A

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Ood on the loo!

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9/5/12 10:15 P

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Loving this thread! So glad Amy and Rory are fixed. Did anyone watch the Pond Life series?

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9/5/12 7:26 A

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I understand, I think I was reading something similar a while back. I didn't like it very much at first. emoticon But they did bring some stuff back and there was even a moment in "The Big Bang" when I felt just like watching the 1st Doctor! (yes, I'm total geek! I'm watching "original" series between series breaks)

I wasn't paying a lot of attention to "spoilers" for new season, but I did see that there will be a new companion so I googled it. And it was a strange, but nice name so I guess I just remembered it. emoticon

My brother just watched the episode yesterday and he texted me in the middle of the night: "That episode! Nerdgasm!" and I just couldn't stop laughing. Can't wait for the next episode so we can geek some more out here, lol. emoticon

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9/4/12 8:04 P

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Hi Nerisaga,

I'm totally with you about geeking out here. lol

The reason I said they were avoiding the previous series is because I had read someplace (at the time I remember thinking it was a fairly credible source--but now I don't remember where I read that) that because people were initially so upset over the loss of DT, that the producers intentionally tried to avoid references to him. There have been a few tidbits. But not like there used to be. *sigh*

You were ahead of me. I didn't know the new companion's name was Oswin, but I recognized the actress as the same one I'd seen in pictures of the new companion. Then I started to doubt myself--could they really be introducing her already?



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9/4/12 2:08 A

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OK just for the record, I have to be stupid... I didn't connect the dots that Oswin is THE Oswin emoticon I loved her and I must say (as a total "tennant girl") that I love Matt more and more. emoticon And I don't think Moffat is "avoiding" everything from before the 11th Doctor. We did get to see River quite a lot. So just keep hoping, I would love to see more about Jenny. emoticon

I must admit I wasn't expecting much but I absulutely loved it! Made me laugh, made me cry, made me gasp in "fear", so it did everything a good Doctor Who episode should do! emoticon

Just wanted to add that I love that there is a great SparkTeam where I can "geekishly" love Doctor Who and talk all about it! emoticon

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Oooh, Shrinking_Sara...nice! I always wondered if we'd ever encounter Jenny again. But with Moffat's almost religious avoidance of all things prior to Matt Smith, I assumed it would never happen. It would mesh with Jenny having Time Lord DNA...she could have regenerated, plus she was a space traveler as Oswin introduced herself. Oooh ooooh, since she made up everything else about her existence there, maybe she made up the name Oswin and she's really Jenny. LOL The name Oswin means "friend of the lord/god". Maybe that's friend of the Time Lord. Hey, it could happen. I love to speculate. emoticon

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9/3/12 11:42 P

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Oswin is perfect.

“Is there a word for total screaming genius that sounds modest and a tiny bit sexy?”

“Doctor. You can call me the Doctor.”

“I see what you did there.”

Did you all notice the chair Oswin is sitting in is the exact same chair that Jenny (the doctor's daughter) sits in her episode... Tumblr doctor who nerds noticed... so there's a ton of new theories floating around.

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9/3/12 11:26 P

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I loved it! And Amy is one of my favorite companions. Although I thought Oswin was cool.

Who looks at a screwdriver and thinks, "Ooh, this could be a little more sonic"?
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9/3/12 11:22 P

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Would love to hear what anyone thinks of this episode.

Love the introduction of Oswin...can't wait for Amy to die or whatever it takes to get rid of her supremely annoying self. Oswin rocks! Not sure she can knock Donna out of my top spot, but the potential is there.



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