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5/27/12 5:06 P

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After I returned to sp I forgot to post actually I had to re-read the chapters because its been so long since I've read them. That's okay I read chapter one twice too.

The Apple Meditation was very powerful. Have you done an eating mediation before? What was your experience with this eating meditation? Did the instructions help bring you to a different state of mind about the apple? I have tried eating meditation more times than I can count.

My problem is I'm always in a hurry. I get annoyed at things that tend to slow me down. I have no problem with meditation or even mindful meditation during gardening, housework. Its me continuing to fight this transformation I am making into breaking old habits.

The Nutriments presented in Chapter 3 cover almost every aspect of life - do you find that shifting your eating patterns has shifted the other "nutriments" in your life?

Yes I think that eating is how I buried my issues. Forcing myself (and yes it is forcing) to do this one thing mindfully is spilling over into other areas. Making me slow down. For someone who doesn't work I'm always in such a hurry. Breaking a 40 plus year habit of eating mindlessly is hard. At times I'm almost resentful. I feel like a piece of me is being taken. How sick is it that eating gives me such joy. It goes back all the way to childhood. I have been told its practice one bite at a time and it does get easier but it takes a long time.

Do you agree with Cheung and Hanh's statement that "much of the world's suffering comes from not eating mindfully"?

I can not speak for anyone other than myself. But I can see how eating is my coping mechanism. My drug of choice allows me to avoid issues that need to deal with. Avoidance results in suffering. A fire does not go out on its own it just spreads...

Have you considered becoming or are you either full-time or part-time vegetarian (flexitarian)? What would help you make that transition?

Once upon a time in my 20's I was a vegetarian. I am more of an accidental flexitarian now. I can not afford to by meat more than once a month (if that). I eat poultry, beans, cheese... Its about affordability and access for me.

Is mass media sometimes "toxic" for you, personally? How do you try to mitigate the effects of mass media?

Oh yes. I don't have satellite or cable anymore. I only watch a handful of tv shows on line so I see limited advertisements. Still even that little bit might get me craving something in a weak moment. Watching the news would get me in a foul mood. I do not read magazines. On those occasions that my mood declines I do meditate. I try to keep negative influences out of my life.

How does your volition help your daily existence and your efforts to become healthier?
My biggest motivator for this journey is my niece and nephew. Being there for them. That's how it started anyway. Some where along the lines I found I loved eating good food. I really love boxing. I slip up but its being strong, the best that I can be, and the kids that get me on track.

The concepts of store consciousness and mind consciousness are intriguing - do you find that this philosophy rings true for you?

YES a million times over lol. It is just like a garden. I think if we nurture something, see it for what it is it can be a positive thing. But sadly I think that can go both ways planting seeds of negativity and feeding them with more negativity can ultimately back fire. That's why misery always loves company. I know people who can take the most wonderful thing and turn it into something dark and depressing. The reason why I avoid so many outside negative influences.


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5/21/12 5:18 P

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Ladies...I made a top sticky thread for Chapter 4 Discussion.

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5/21/12 9:01 A

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Sounds great! I'll be ready!

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5/21/12 2:19 A

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Hey Butrfly -

Yes, let's do the next chapter! I'm happy to post discussion questions this Saturday the 26th.

Yours in Savor-y ness :),
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5/18/12 5:24 P

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Are we going to do the next chapter?

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4/30/12 12:25 A

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Yay Pixie! So grateful to have you on this book group journey!

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4/30/12 12:13 A

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i got it - fast, thru amazon - slightly used 10$. Not bad will start tomorrow my sister is interested also.

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4/29/12 6:50 P

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Thanks. I'm loving the book. Really makes you think!

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4/24/12 10:39 P

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We will be doing the book for a good while. Jump right in and join us when you are ready!

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4/24/12 11:47 A

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ok girls - i ordered the book used at amazon and its on its way. hope you are still doing this when it comes but even if not i will refer to your posts. thanks!!

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4/24/12 2:00 A

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Really appreciate your thoughtful replies, Kim!

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emoticon Kim!

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4/23/12 8:52 P

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Two more great chapters done! So much information! So much that I went back and skimmed over the first chapter again. My poor book is full of pencil markings now lol.

I've read a lot about eating meditation, but hadn't really tried it before. I did this meditation with a tangerine instead of an orange as I'm not all that fond of apples. I'm still undecided about this... I didn't really feel different or think different... maybe I simply need a lot more practice with mindfulness and FULLY concentrating on the task. With that thought, I'm going to spend this week working on it and see what, if anything, changes with further practice.

Do you agree with Cheung and Hanh's statement that "much of the world's suffering comes from not eating mindfully"?

emoticon Yes. I agree, though as the book says, I feel that it's more than just eating food. It's "eating" in a much broader sense.

Have you considered becoming or are you either full-time or part-time vegetarian (flexitarian)? What would help you make that transition?

emoticon Yes! I am not vegetarian, but I have considered it for many years...and did attempt it at one point. I am strongly against the treatment of the animals that we consume as food.... some of the images and stories of what is done to them sicken me. I didn't succeed at vegetarianism because back then I didn't cook and didn't know any recipes. I would be open to trying again... if not for a fiance who refuses to NOT eat meat. He says a meal isn't a meal if it doesn't have meat. Maybe I can try to do what the book says and start with some meals instead of them all. I can save the meaty meals for dinner. I'll have to give it some thought.

Is mass media sometimes "toxic" for you, personally? How do you try to mitigate the effects of mass media?

emoticon I'd have to say "not very often". Maybe it's just me.. but I think sometimes people place too much power with the media. The example in the book for instance, of watching a thriller movie, or the chocolate advertisement... seem a bit too much to me... though I get the basic idea. I don't feel that experiencing things, even stressful ones are inherently bad. I think it's more in how you look at things. I love scary movies, but because I know they aren't real, they don't leave me stressed and they certainly don't leave me with nightmares. And I don't give advertisements any weight. Maybe it's because I KNOW the tactics they use to sell things, I don't know. But seeing a "sexy" ad for shoes for example would never make me think "I want to be sexy, so I need those shoes", even subconsciously. Hopefully this all makes sense.

How does your volition help your daily existence and your efforts to become healthier?

emoticon I think that volition is the most important aspect of improving our existence and our health. After all, we must want to change, in order to change our minds and our bodies. I think that sometimes what I REALLY want gets lost in what I want in a particular moment (another slice of pie, skipping the workout etc). I know I have to work harder at remembering what I really want.

The concepts of store consciousness and mind consciousness are intriguing - do you find that this philosophy rings true for you?

emoticon I'd say that this very accurately describes me. My brain is very compartmentalized. Unless I'm currently experiencing a trigger or "formation", then I tend to completely forget about it. Anger for instance... I'm not usually angry for very long. Once the initial reason has passed and I've expressed my anger (haha not very buddhist here), it's usually gone and I no longer think about it. But there are definitely certain "seeds" that I know are waiting to be watered, waiting to flower, some good, some not so much.


One more thing I'd like to add... I agree with the thinking that the more you experience something the more the emotions and feelings associated with it are strengthened. The more you tell yourself you like or hate something... the more you'll feel those emotions toward that something.

Anyway, that's the end of my ramblings for now. Looking forward to other thoughts on this!

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4/23/12 12:20 A

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Hurray Pixie - so glad to have you join us!

LadyRose & Butrfly - don't worry about finishing in a hurry - savor your Savor reading ;)

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emoticon Pixie...come & join right in. I will be posting in a day or two.

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ok -Kosh you got me - guess i'll go track down the book so i can join in. Looks very interesting and you are doing a fantastic job!

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4/21/12 2:04 P

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I got a little off track, but I'm almost done with ch 3. I will post back here once I'm done! The questions look great!

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Hope all of you enjoyed Chapter 2 & 3 as much as I did! I'm putting these questions together and you are welcome to answer them or just comment on what was powerful for you in these two chapters.

The Apple Meditation was very powerful. Have you done an eating mediation before? What was your experience with this eating meditation? Did the instructions help bring you to a different state of mind about the apple?

The Nutriments presented in Chapter 3 cover almost every aspect of life - do you find that shifting your eating patterns has shifted the other "nutriments" in your life?

Do you agree with Cheung and Hanh's statement that "much of the world's suffering comes from not eating mindfully"?

Have you considered becoming or are you either full-time or part-time vegetarian (flexitarian)? What would help you make that transition?

Is mass media sometimes "toxic" for you, personally? How do you try to mitigate the effects of mass media?

How does your volition help your daily existence and your efforts to become healthier?

The concepts of store consciousness and mind consciousness are intriguing - do you find that this philosophy rings true for you?

Thank you once again for the opportunity to examine this book, and I am looking forward to reading all of your insights!



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I'm almost ready. Got a little behind because I have been ill.

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Just bumping this up so folks know we'll be discussing Chapter 2 & 3 in a little over a week :)

Wonderful to have you join us Licious!

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Please, do join us. We will be happy to have you and your thoughts on the book!

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After reading everyone's summary of Chapter 1 & 2, I just purchased the book today. I hope to use the weekend to catch up and post my thoughts.

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Sounds good to me! Thank you.

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3/22/12 1:12 A

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Since Chapter 2 is very short, we'll do Chapter 2 & 3 and plan to meet back to discuss those chapters on April 20th.

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See you here after Chapter 1...

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