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12/18/12 7:30 P

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I am on several medicines that cause dry mouth, so I drink constantly. I never have a problem drinking 8 or more glasses of water a day, no matter what I eat or whatever else I drink.

I hope to be able to get off of most of my medicines some day, but even before taking them, I always drank a lot. I guess I got it from my mom. She always had a glass of water with her. My daughter is like that too.

On the other hand, my dad never drank water. He would only drink whole milk, coffee or iced tea. One of my sisters never drinks water either. She lives on coffee and hot tea.

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12/18/12 7:15 P

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Yes, I saw that, too. On days when I exercise I easily drink double of the recommendation but also add salt. The problem with going by thirst alone is that many people do not have normal thirst when they get older, especially if they are restricting salt and this can lead to chronic dehydration in many elderly people. This can lead to all kinds of problems, including making disc problems far worse, brain dysfunction.
How much to drink? I really don't know. If in doubt maybe rather a little more.
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12/18/12 7:01 P

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This one might rile some feathers, too, but I'm just the messenger:

The truth behind drinking 8 glasses of water a day: www.parade.com/health/2012/12/16-ken
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This is the section dealing with water consumption:

5. "Drink eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day."
This was called the "8x8 rule" when I heard about it from my seventh grade home ec teacher, Mrs. Brown. Not milk; couldn't be juice; had to be water. I protested that since all beverages were mostly water, surely they would count? "No!"

In 2002, a kidney specialist named Heinz Valtin, M.D., concluded this rule was an accident. Back in the 1940s, the Food and Nutrition Board of the National Research Council recommended "one milliliter of water for each calorie of food." A 1,900-calorie diet would indeed work out to about 64 ounces of water a day. But everyone seems to have forgotten the next sentence: "Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods." That's right, Mrs. Brown: Most of our water gets to us in non-water form. In fact, a National Institutes of Health doctor told the Los Angeles Times that a healthy adult in a temperate climate could replace his body's daily water loss with food alone!

So what's the right amount to drink? Whatever your thirst demands. And it doesn't have to be water: The Center for Nutrition found that even supposedly "diuretic" beverages (like coffee, tea, and soda) provide almost all the hydration that water does.

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12/18/12 5:11 P

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Absolutely, however some foods that are carby, fatty or proteiny (how's that for scientific!) can be more or less nutrient dense. The trick is finding what your body runs BEST on cos I think it's a given that anything above what your body burns is 'stored.' emoticon

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As a new member, I find "Calories are king" reassuring that science rules here. This seems to be a mega-trend, that "experts" are slowly coming back to say, yes, it's calories in, calories out, always was, is, and will be. Every time I've kept my calories in line, I've lost weight. Every time I didn't, I gained. As economist Dr. Walter E. Williams once observed, Mother Nature is a ruthless accountant.

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I was part of a major 'weight loss program' from 1985 to 2009. Counting back from 2009, I was a vegetarian (most of the time -- I'd have some kind of meat about once a month) for over 16 years.

When I switched back to eating meat (not just eating meat but eating it daily and by daily at LEAST 2 meals, often more -- at the time I ate 5-6 times a day, small meals), my health flourished.

I think it's important to recognize WHAT fats we're choosing. I don't eat fast food (or from any restaurant). I rely on coconut oil, EVOO and eat a lot of fatty fish. I still trim some fat from my chicken, pork and beef but I don't get hyper-vigilant about it.

I've found by eating more meats and healthy fats, my health got much better. I do NOT espouse a low carb/ Atkins/ etc. eating plan. That's work!

I'm astonished that where I'd always had high cholesterol (not the good kind) but when I changed to avoiding most grains (I still have .5C oats every breakfast and occasionally make some junk food from tapioca/ manioc, rice or corn -- note, I understand THESE ARE JUNK FOOD), all of that went away.

I also eat at least one whole egg a day, sometimes a few. For MY body (everyone in my family has died from heart attack or have stents, by-passes and are all on cholesterol lowering meds & BP meds), this is working where being VEGETARIAN didn't. That astonishes me.

I do not know what's right for anybody else but I think what works for me to be just amazing. Who wants to take drugs or get chopped up?

All of that said: calories are still important. More calories in than is needed results in fat and I think we know what that does. I'm not in perfect shape but my arteries, heart and panels look better than BEFORE I entered my 40s. Again: amazing.



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12/15/12 1:55 A

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I'm not sure when this was written but I think it is completely outdated.
Not all calories are created equal. Only eating carbs (and to a lesser extent protein) raises insulin levels. The majority of people who are obese or overweight are insulin-resistant and/or diabetic or pre-diabetic. Eating carbs does just not make sense in those cases.
There are more and more nutrional scientists that blame high levels of carbs in the form of grains, beans, and sugar on diabetes, heart disease, cancer and autoimmune diseases on high carb levels, not on high fat levels or saturated fats, as previously thought.
It is definitely not true that the brain can only function on carbs. It can function just as well, if not better, on ketones, a by-product of fat-metabolism. The brain is actually made mostly of fat.
Carbohydrate is not an essential nutrient to get from our diet, our body can make it when necessary.
A low-carbohydrate and high-fat diet promotes fat-burning because of the lower insulin levels.
I know I'm not the only one here who eats about 70% of calories as fat, 20-25% protein (or 60-100 grams/day) and only the remaining 5% as carbs.
My cholsterol levels are great, blood pressure low and I lost the last 15 lbs. on low carb. I'm never hungry and my energy levels are much higher and my sleep is better since I've been on low-carb. I will never ever go back to eating that many carbs. It was killing me and making me miserable. For anyone with weight issues, heart problems, diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol problems or autoimmune diseases check out the low-carb groups on Spark. emoticon


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Why Calories Are King
5 Questions with Becky Hand, SparkPeople Dietitian
-- By Becky Hand, Licensed & Registered Dietitian

1. What is the most common misconception about calories?
Iíd say itís the belief that calories from different foods are worth more or less. Itís true that fats are higher density in calories than protein or carbohydrates. But in the end, all that matters is whether your body needs those calories or not. If your body has met all of its immediate energy and energy store needs, those extra calories will be turned to fat whether they came from a tomato or a Tootsie Roll. You could eat no junk food at all, but if you wolfed down 3,000 calories worth of fruits and vegetables, youíd still gain weight. Thatís why itís so important to pay attention to calorie totals, both of what you eat and what you burn. If those numbers are in line, you should be fine. Of course, itís still essential to get calories from a balanced diet so you get all the nutrients you need.

2. Suppose someone has cut calories, but still hits a plateau. Is it possible that she may need to eat more calories to lose weight?
Itís possible. If youíre not eating enough, your body sort of panics and goes into whatís known as starvation mode, slowing down your metabolism and fat-burning processes. If itís being starved of calories, it has to hold onto all of the energy stores and calories that it can. Think of your body as a furnace. If thereís not enough fuel, the fire just simmers for a long time without really burning hot. If youíre not eating enough calories to match your activity level, your body just simmers and no real progress is being made. The danger is that people react to this type of plateau by eating even less, which of course just makes the problem worse and harder to recover from. Itís a horrible cycle that can lead to real problems.

3. How many calories do people need to eat?
Thatís the million-dollar question, isnít it? Youíre going to hate me when I say that it depends. There are three factors involved: Your weight loss goals, your Basal Metabolic Rate (the number of calories your body burns via normal, everyday functions), and how much exercise you get. First, calculate your BMR. Next, consider how much activity you get. Add the calories you burn through activity and exercise for one day to your BMR. This is your baseline for daily calorie needs. To lose 1 pound per week (if thatís your goal), youíd simply eat 500 calories less than this number each day. Whatever your baseline is, more than 1,000 calories per day below that (resulting in 2 pounds lost per week) is not a good idea. Your body needs enough nutrition and energy to deal with whatever exercise level you choose. At bare minimum, no matter what, I strongly urge women to not drop below 1,200 calories daily and men to not drop below 1,500 calories daily. Any lower than that and starvation mode Ė or worse Ė will almost always kick in.

4. Why do people still need to get calories from carbs? Canít more protein make up for it?
Each type of nutrient (fat, carbs, protein) is an energy source. Each has the same end result Ė theyíre either used or eventually stored as fat. But each is processed in a unique way and fills a very specific need. Letís focus on carbs versus protein, since this is the focus of a lot of dieting these days. Both carbs and protein work on different assembly lines in the same factory. A minimum amount of carbs is essential for immediate energy needs and to metabolize fat properly. People seem to forget (ironically) that carbs are also your sole source of energy for the brain. No one else in the factory can do this job. Proteins can provide energy too, but they have more value if used in other ways, like building and repairing cells, producing antibodies to fight disease, and helping out with other body functions. If not enough carbs show up for work, proteins are pulled off of the jobs theyíre best at to cover those energy-producing functions. Meanwhile, the work proteins were supposed to be doing goes undone. The factory suffers.

5. What rule of thumb should be used in allocating calories?
Since menus and eating realities change daily, average ranges work better than absolute percentages. For the most part, your calorie intake should come from:

40-65% Carbohydrates
10-35% Proteins
20-35% Fats

Itís important to try to meet these ranges every day to fulfill your energy and nutrient needs without creating more fat storage. But if you miss these ranges periodically, donít stress too much, just keep an eye on it and work on improving your habits. Trying to match an exact number Ė or even a range -- every single day is unrealistic. If your results are within these ranges over time, thatís what matters.

If you need a link to figure out your BMR, go here:

http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/fitn
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Edited by: GODS_TEMPLE at: 12/15/2012 (02:13)
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