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ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 5/5/10 1:46 P
Kyrrdis,
Thanks for your totals. Unless I missed something, I came in first (probably because the people who beat me in the past dropped out of this one, LOL) and you second.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
Yeah, I'm ending about where I started, too... but I'm still trying to develop the good habits of exercise. When I get them in place, I should really get going -- which is why I'm in this Challenge. I really like my last week...
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 5/2/10 6:22 P
I won't have my totals till tomorrow - left the file at work.
I'm ending at the weight I started with, which sucks, but at least I'm holding my own. I've had a lot of challenges this time.
My final totals: This week: Weight pts 0 Strength pts 33 Cardio pts 50 Support pts 0 Bonus pts 15 Week totals 98 Challenge totals 771
Total Weight pts 62 (but I bounced back and am at the same weight now as I was to start the challenge) Total Strength pts 265 Total Cardio pts 366 Total support pts 9 (not sure I counted everyting) Total Bonus pts 69 Average pts per week 59.3
Note that I almost made 100 pts just this week -- would be nice if I could do that every week, and I bet I'd be under 230 by now. Hope to do so in the NEW CHALLENGE -- write me for the spreadsheet, and join the Lighter By Lammas Challenge.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/28/10 11:05 P
Ah, it's no fun to be positive ALL the time... but I can try to be more constructive.
My weight has returned to the 'edging down' status it was at earlier in the challenge.
Kyrrdis, dear, might I suggest more positive thoughts?
Mightier by Monday Tougher by Tuesday Weightless by Wednesday ...
Remember, as Pagans we, at least as much as others, create our reality.
As for my performance over this Challenge, I'm sad to say that my lightest (except for one aberrent weigh-in on a friend's scale) has been 242, and happy to say my heaviest has been 249, and that I'm tending back to the low end of that range of late - 243 this morning. I might, just possibly might, get down to 240 to end this thing, as this week has a lot of activity on the schedule.
I also am trying to set up my success on the next Challenge by getting bloody downright serious about the strength work THIS WEEK. I did a good workout Monday night (which I'm still hurting from, but hopefully more work will help), took last night off, and will do half a workout each night for the rest of the week/Challenge.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/28/10 9:32 A
OK... Satyric by Saturday, Sober by Sunday? Or is that Syphilitic by Sunday?
High Weight 249.0 Low weigth 244.0 Weight pts 0 Strength pts 4 Cardio pts 25 Support pts 0 Login pts 0 Week total 29 Challenge total 673
Today is not a day I had scheduled for work. Just spun a 10 on the Login Points... hmmm, are they trying to tell me something? This week was weak in strength work.
Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
The Challenge starts May 2 - the spreadsheet is NOW READY! Write me at zaivalananda@gmail.com to get your copy (please do not send SparkMail, I can't do attachments).
10 pts for each lb you lose 1 pt for every 10 reps of a Strength Training exercise - up to 180 reps or 18 pts/day (remember if you do this daily, to do a different set of muscles every other day so you don't over-train, muscle is built on your "rest" day) 1 pt for every 10 minutes of cardio up to 180 min or 18 pts/day 1 pt for every Pagan Place team member you support - max of 10/day Count your daily Login points any day in which you exceed 15 total points
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/23/10 9:34 A
I will definitely break 400 points... hope to reach 500, but that will probably require some good spins on the wheel and a lot more exercise. I don't recall my totals on previous challenges (will have to look that up), but you shouldn't compare yourself unfavorably unless you think you REALLY slacked off. Part of my problem at the moment is achy joints from the weather. I may have unjustly blamed my physical therapy for my pain last spring.
I didn't lose any weight this time, but I seem to have returned to the weight I was before this past weekend. I think the puffy joints and extra sodium (from the drum building & buffet junket) WERE to blame.
Last points reported: Zaivala 644 Kyrrdis 386 Iren 49 Branduir 34 Wulfcwen - not reported Asilla - dropped out Triple_Emme - bowed out
I hope we can get more points in from Iren, Branduir and Wulcwen, and/or that you all join us in the next Challenge.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 4/22/10 12:03 P
There are now 9 days left in this Challenge. That means two things -- I have to make up the spreadsheet for the next Challenge, and we should start reporting our scores. Unlike most previous Challenges, I seem to be in the lead, but I have not done any/much more work that past challenges. Feels like I have, but the statistics, in this case, do not lie.
A couple Challenges ago, I reduced the number of strength exercises per point from 10 to 8. That "coddling" has not seemed to help me or anyone else much - either you're doing it or you're not - and also seems to have increased the disparity between how many times you can lift something and get the same points as 10 minutes of walking. I think I'll return to the rounds of 10 in the next Challenge.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/22/10 9:44 A
Weight has come down a little, but I haven't exercised much this week... still pretty sore from the drum making. That, and rain makes my joints hurt more.
I got 10 points on the wheel again yesterday, though, so I did extra exercise to count the spin. I'll take my incentives where I can!
High weight 249 Low weight 242 Ending weight 246 Not losing weight right now... Weight pts 0 Strength pts 14 Cardio pts 35 Support pts 0 Login pts 6 Total for week 55 Challenge total 644
Could have had more points but it rained Thursday. Still haven't done enough at home.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/20/10 10:49 A
I am sore as heck from a drum-making workshop this weekend and haven't been very constructive since then. It was also out of town and we ate at Asian buffets, so I'm either bloated or I gained 3 pounds in as many days. I need to get back to 'normal' foods.
Hehehe, it threw a 10 at me this morning too. I'm not sure what I'll do, my gout has flared up in my right ankle (usually gout-free, but these flare-ups take a toll on me). I'll get out on my bike today at least... if I have energy left after my travails, there's no reason I can't do my situps and weights, but if not, I'll likely just collapse.
I did break 600.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/15/10 9:00 A
I got the extra points yesterday, but I got 10 on the wheel again and will be busy all evening. Not sure I will get the bonus this time.
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
IREN0169
Posts: 1,262 4/12/10 11:28 A
I am still here hanging by a thread! Will have to add my totals for the last two weeks and post in the next day or two. My life has been a bit of chaos the last couple of weeks and it doesn't make for good eating habits! Hoping to get back on track starting with today.
One day, one step at a time! Iren aka Christie
Pounds lost: 6.2
0
19.5
39
58.5
78
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 4/11/10 5:10 P
Ending weight 247 Weight pts 0 Strength pts 13 Cardio pts 28 Support pts 1 Bonus pts 0 Weekly total 42 Challenge total 589
Still not doing enough work with my home exercise equipment, but getting good exercise out of the home.
Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/7/10 1:50 P
Most of the stuff I've read indicates that fat people (they used nicer words) get real benefits from strength training. If you ever decide to go to a 1 point/5 minutes cardio, though, I wouldn't object...
Yeah, it seems a bit unequal that 2 minutes of lifting something counts as much as 20 minutes of walking... but the whole idea is that lazy people like me don't often lift and could stand a little incentive.
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 4/7/10 11:19 A
We all go through better and worse times, Z. Perhaps you have been doing more cardio, which doesn't rack up the numbers but is very important.
High weight 247 Low weight 244 Weight pts 0 Strength pts 21 Cardio pts 33 Support pts 0 Bonus pts 2 Week total 56 Challenge total 547
Well, I thought I was doing good, even thought I might be better than I was in past challenges. Unfortunately for me and the truth, I saved my last two challenges.
For Slimmer By Samhain 2009, my total was 846 For Inspiration By Imbolc 2009-10, my total was 603.
Not much chance I'm going to beat the former this time, but I'll probably surpass the latter...
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 4/3/10 10:47 A
Good to hear from you, Asilla. You know you can still get in on this... and we'll be waiting for you to join the next one.
See, Iren, one already dropped out, you can pass her...
LOL
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ASILLA
SparkPoints: (61,527)
Fitness Minutes: (133,125) Posts: 3,039 4/3/10 7:59 A
Hi everyone! Just popping in to say "hi" and cheer you all on. Everyone is doing so well, keep up the great work! I didn't make it for this challange, but hope to catch the next one. Moss you make the bestest sperad sheet in the whole Sparkdom for this! Everybody keep on Sparkin'!!
current weight: 163.0
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249.25
214.5
179.75
145
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 3/31/10 10:51 P
Yayyy Iren! You'll do a great job catching up, and then be ready for the next challenge.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
IREN0169
Posts: 1,262 3/31/10 10:47 P
Finally figured out my spreadsheet and have my totals:
Start weight: 196.2 Pound points: 0 Strength points:32 Cardio points:17 Support points: 0 Login points: 0 Total points: 49
I started this on Sunday 3/21/10 and weigh in on Sunday so my pound points will go on next week. Thanks for the challenge. It really encourages me to do my strength exercises, which I had been really lax in!
One day, one step at a time! Iren aka Christie
Pounds lost: 6.2
0
19.5
39
58.5
78
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 3/31/10 3:49 P
Hey, I'm not doing nearly as well as I should be. And you've been sick a lot this winter, so give yourself a break. At least you're still plugging... a lot of people have either fallen by the wayside or silent.
Good work, Kyrrdis!
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 3/31/10 10:32 A
I'm afraid I'm not doing as well as you, Zaivala. However, I am still in the competition and still exercising!
Well, Irene, you won't finish in last place, that's for sure... and have plenty of time to try for 3rd. Plus you'll get used to my handy-dandy spreadsheet.
I'd better get to work on the next one.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
IREN0169
Posts: 1,262 3/30/10 11:37 A
I hope to post my points tonight, once I figure everything out, although it looks like I have my work cut out for me to catch up to everyone!
One day, one step at a time! Iren aka Christie
Pounds lost: 6.2
0
19.5
39
58.5
78
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 3/28/10 8:28 P
Oh, yeah -- my SparkPoints from the weekend pushed me up to a new trophy. Yayyyyy!
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 3/28/10 8:28 P
Well, my weight has climbed upwards a few pounds... I spent the weekend out camping with my spiritual Family, and the food was much better (in terms of what I can eat) than usual, so I sorta pigged out Saturday night, but I'm still only 247. That's 5 pounds heavier than my normal low, and a lot of that should be shed over the next couple days.
I just saw that I'm almost to 500 points in this Challenge. Yes, if I worked hard it would be 700 or 800, but this is a new high for me. I hope all of you are doing well... no more flus and colds, please.
Weight pts 0 Strength pts 26 Cardio pts 37 Support pts 0 Login Bonuses 0 Week Total 63 Challenge Total 491
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 3/24/10 6:07 P
Come on in! If you work out seriously you might catch us! I'll be working up the spreadsheet for the next Challenge next month. Email me at zaivalananda@gmail.com if you want the spreadsheet for this Challenge.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
IREN0169
Posts: 1,262 3/24/10 3:43 P
Hope I can still join as there are 5 weeks before the next challenge starts and I could sure use the motivation!
My strength work is up to every 4-5 days... I'm still trying to get it to 2-3 days. My cardio went to heck this week, demonstrated by my weight going up to 247.
Weight pts 0 Strength pts 15 Cardio pts 6 Support pts 0 Login pts 2 Weekly total 23 Challenge total 428
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 3/15/10 1:49 P
Goodness, did we finish another week already??? I'll have to go check my spreadsheet...
No change in weight this week, other than a return to my usual 242-243 range. I'm getting SLIGHTLY better at doing my weight work.
I managed to screw something up in my back Wednesday night and took it easy over the weekend. Spun 10 pts on the wheel this morning, so I may try to push myself for those extra points today.
We're doing a cleansing diet right now, mostly focused on detox tea (Yogi brand) and eating certain foods. More gas, peeing gallons, and consuming a boatload of fiber and carbs. Doubt I will lose weight.
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 3/1/10 1:59 P
Yayyy Kyrrdis! I need to get more consistent with my exercise, but I'm doing it once or twice per week (not 3 times like I promised myself, but getting there, and it beats zero!).
I worry about including my weight on that scale yesterday... as it is not the scale I have used for other weights... but figure, it's a good target to move towards and I won't be able to use those points again this Challenge until my scale tells me I have exceeded that.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
I did more strength work this week... but not quite what I had promised myself, and less cardio than usual.
Low Weight 242.0 High weights 244.5 Weight points 0 Strength points 32 Cardio points 26 Support points 2 Bonus points 2 Total for week 80 Total for Challenge 215
Just last week I make a snippy comment about being flat on your back the day you spin a 20 login bonus. Well, I wasn't sick or tired at all when I spun a 20 this week, and that gave me extra motivation to do my strength work.
I weighed myself this morning on an official scale, and will be getting some new weight loss points next week... weight in at 236.8.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 2/22/10 7:33 P
See, you're catching up already! Keep going! I found out last Challenge how much you can gain in points by losing in pounds...
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
BRANDUIR
Posts: 172 2/22/10 6:21 P
Weight 218 Weight points 10 Strength points 0 Cardio points 28 Support points 0 Login points 0 Total for week 26 Total for Challenge 34
I'm doing cardio, but need to add in strength this week. Lost my first pound with SP! woo-hoo!
Edited by: BRANDUIR at: 2/22/2010 (18:23)
“We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.” Aristotle
We must be the change we wish to see in the world.--Gandhi
You'll find plugin thingies (like USB Jump Drives) to be incredibly cheap, and you only need a small one (in terms of memory size) for something like this... but suit yourself, and hope you continue to participate in the Challenge.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 2/21/10 10:23 P
Weight 242 Weight points 0 Strength points 8 Cardio points 28 Support points 0 Login points 0 Total for week 36 Total for Challenge 135
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
WULFCWEN
Posts: 116 2/21/10 3:19 A
I don't have a thing to plug in to save it when I go to the library so it will be quicker and easier to do it myself. No money spare to go out and buy the gadget to download stuff onto the plug in thingy.
“There are no failures - just experiences and your reactions to them.”
current weight: 166.0
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ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 2/20/10 9:27 P
That's right, you only count the Login spin when your daily totals are 15 or more. And yes, they usually are only 1, 2, or 3 points... but my luck has been that when I spin a 20 I've been flat on my back all that day.
Next challenge I'm going to add another wrinkle to the login points... what will it be?
I'm curious as to why you can't use the spreadsheet.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
WULFCWEN
Posts: 116 2/20/10 4:00 P
cant do the spread sheet thingy so will have to do this by hand. I will write the points out and put the results up next week My start weight is 166 pounds
Question: when I spin the wheel for Spark points I usually get either 1 or 3 points a day but we only count it if we reach 15 a week is that right? I have not done a challenge like this one before so need a little clarification please.
“There are no failures - just experiences and your reactions to them.”
current weight: 166.0
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TRIPLE_EMME
Posts: 2,528 2/19/10 4:05 P
My intentions for participating in this challenge were good. However, I must respectfully bow out.
My time on Spark has been limited over the past couple of weeks; and I don't see that changing in the next month. My workload has increased dramatically.
I hope to participate in the next challenge.
Best wishes to all of you -- may you be buff by Beltane!
44 Days until: New Arrival
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ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 2/19/10 2:30 P
Never too late. Generally speaking, we have this Challenge with a number of well-meaning people who are TRYING to take their weight loss and exercise seriously. Always room for someone else. We started this Feb 3, ending May 1. And then we'll start another, so don't get down on yourself if you don't quite catch on this time.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
BRANDUIR
Posts: 172 2/19/10 11:16 A
Oooh, I want in! Is it too late? I will e-mail you, Moss, and then pray that I can figure out the spreadsheet thing. Hopefully it will make sense once I see it!
BB, Suzi
“We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.” Aristotle
We must be the change we wish to see in the world.--Gandhi
current weight: 182.0
232
210.25
188.5
166.75
145
KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 2/16/10 2:40 P
Total points: 44
Starting weight: 170
02/03 - 02/06: 19 02/07 - 02/13: 25
I should be grateful to the snow for giving me a cardio opportunity... but I'm not.
“There are no failures - just experiences and your reactions to them.”
current weight: 166.0
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ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 2/14/10 5:34 P
Paula,
The library should have a spreadsheet program. You don't need to print out your numbers, just keep a little USB jump drive with you; at the end of the week, open a Notepad windows and write down the numbers on your spreadsheet, and post the text file you just created using cut-and-paste. That's what I do...
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 2/14/10 5:33 P
Starting Weight 243 High Weight 247 Low Weight & Ending Weight 241 Weight Pts 10 Strength Pts 37 Cardio Pts 23 Support Pts 1 Login Pts 1 Total for Week 72 Total for Challenge 99
I had a homeless couple staying with me for 5 days this week. Besides the fact that they cleaned everything in the kitchen and bathroom, Jeana cooked every night, resulting in temporary weight gain... but it was healthy food, so it came off again.
Question: My starting weight of this Challenge was ___. I had a lower weight as part of the last Challenge. Do I get weight points from the start of the Challenge, or from all Challenges?
Answer: Well, since we never covered that in previous Challenges, and since our Challenges are 3 months long, we look at each Challenge as its own start and end. So your Starting Weight on 2/3/10 is the weight from which weight points are counted, not your previous low. If you need to revise your numbers last week, feel free to do so. This is not intended to encourage you to pig out at the end of the Challenge, but there is no help for it.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
WULFCWEN
Posts: 116 2/14/10 5:30 A
Ok I will join in but how easy is it to use a spread sheet? I am not good with figures or sorting out spread sheets. I will email you for it though and see aht it is like. Also I cannot print off at home it has sort of packed up but can at the library
“There are no failures - just experiences and your reactions to them.”
current weight: 166.0
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KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 2/8/10 10:35 A
Total points: 19
Starting weight: 170
02/03 - 02/06: 19
These posts will get longer, of course, as time goes on. Loving the spreadsheet, BTW.
I slacked off a bit at the end of the last challenge and the start of this one. But I went to Aldi for groceries today, intending to buy a the hand dumbbells they had for sale in January for $39.95, and found they had 2 sets left -- marked down to $24.95. I did my first set of exercises with them tonight. They even came with an exercise chart and DVD.
Weight points: 0 Strength points: 0 Cardio points: 13 Support points: 4 Login points: 0 Total for week: 17 Total for Challenge: 17
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 2/3/10 7:30 P
Yup, same point system.
10 points for each pound lost 1 point for each 10 minutes of cardio or 8 reps of strength training. (maxes are on spreadsheet) 1 point for each message or action of support for Team members (not just Challenge members) Count your Login Bonus Points (spin the wheel at login to SP) any day your total points exceed 15. (Any spin resulting in a win of something other than points counts as 20)
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
TRIPLE_EMME
Posts: 2,528 2/3/10 1:40 P
I would like to join the challenge, too! This will be my first challenge with the team, as well.
I will email you, shortly.
44 Days until: New Arrival
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KYRRDIS
Posts: 3,937 2/3/10 1:37 P
Thanks for sending me the BBB spreadsheet. Is the point system the same as for IBI?
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
CABADOON
SparkPoints: (3,219)
Fitness Minutes: (443) Posts: 5 2/2/10 1:55 P
This will be my first challenge!! Please sign me up!! How do I get the spreadsheet?
current weight: 243.0
274
259.25
244.5
229.75
215
ZAIVALA
Posts: 1,768 1/15/10 4:47 P
It's almost Imbolc, and another Challenge is ending. If you're tracking points with a spreadsheet, and you're using mine (despite occasional glitches, which I think are all fixed), it's time to email me at zaivalananda@gmail.com and get your new spreadsheet for our second annual Buff By Beltane challenge.
I could be tweaking the values and such, we've done that before, but we've been very successful in the last two challenges and I think we'll just leave it the way it is.
Hugs, Moss
I overcame my spiritual obesity, now for the physical!
current weight: 225.2
272
252.75
233.5
214.25
195
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