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Aretha

Might also be you have an allergy to coconut oil... if that's when your gut sumptoms started.

Its rare, but oils can be an irritant...one of my friends has that reaction to olive oil... an oil with health bennies for MOST people...

Remember... nothing works 100% for everyone.

You may also had caught a stomach bug.
Perhaps stay off the Coconut Oil until your intestinal distress subsides.
Then start it up again.
If the same symptoms return... then Coconut Oil, just isn't your friend.

But we are here... so let us know what happens, k?

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I just started 2 days ago putting a TBSP in my coffee, I have had the worst sharp pains in my guts and the runs for 2 days now. Reading up on it, looks like its is doing the cleanse thing, I just hope it calms down on the pain once I get used to it.

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A good year solid....up to 2 working into it.

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Purrballs....congrats. Do you mind me asking how long you have been using butter and coconut oil?

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Fun aside.....got blood taken last week. C-reactive protein is in range and half of what it was 5 years ago....all numbers good thanks to butter and coconut oil.

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Wonderful news, girl!
So happy to log in this morning and see your positive updates!

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MZZCHIEF, You are SO right about making sure someone adds the oils into their caloric intake; that's why count the oil with honey as a snack or a supplement into my nutrition tracker, but that's ok, because I don't snack really between meals.

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PURRBALLS,

That is SO AWESOME! I love when that happens!!!

Ok, so, I got my first order of coconut oil and butter yesterday and took a TBSP of it around 3pm...By 3:30, I was feeling awesome! I had so much energy and for the first time in YEARSI didn't feel cold. Coconut oil is AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME! Also, coconut oil significantly reduced my need for a snack. I felt full after taking it! Today I am going up to 2 TBSP (one in the morning and one in the afternoon). The taste is also very good. I like it plain, but it's even better with some honey drizzled on it!

All I can say is, so far I AM A BELIEVER!

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You're most welcome!
Happy to be helpful...

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Thanks for the info Mzzchief!
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Nothing can repair my thyroid function....my thyroid is dead as a doornail. Too many years of undertreatment and allowing the autoimmune system to kill it off was a death knell.

Supplement the function is one thing coconut oil can do for me. All the things we share on here point to that. ON top of it it has turned things around for me heartwise. After having a heart attack at 45 years of age the doc tried to put me on statins. They tore up my body...I hurt so bad I was in tears. I went and read myself on items. Among them I only eat coconut oil, butter, and small quantities of olive oil now. I no longer take the statins. Went in for a checkup and the doc was all smiles..."oh keep doing what you're doing...your numbers are great!" I laughed. She wanted to know why. I explained I stopped the meds and about the oils I'm eating which butter and coconut oils are saturated fats they tell you NOT to eat. She gulped and got out of there quick....I smiled and left. Now our appts are brief and terse...she checks my blood numbers, sees they are good despite doing almost everything in opposition to what she recommends and she leaves without much response. So much for cardiologists!

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People on low carb diets can have 2-3 tablespoons a day, because they metabolize nutrients differently than people who eat more carbs. Their bodies burn lipids (fats) rather than carbs for fuel. This metabolic arrangement is known as a state of ketosis.

In any case, if you're eating coconut oil, either on a high or low calorie diet, you've got to make sure it doesn't bump you up over your daily calorie weight loss quota. If you're on a low carb diet, then you'd substitute the coconut oil for carbs, not protein, or your body will start breaking down your muscles for fuel.

So a "for instance" low carb meal would be 3 oz. roast chicken breast with the skin (170 cal), broccoli (98 calories) with a tablespoon of coconut oil on top(117) for 385 total calories

As opposed to a more traditional meal of 3oz. roast chicken breast without skin(110 calories) broccoli (98 cal), a half cup of baked sweet potatoe(90 calories) with a tablespoon of low fat cottage cheese (8cal) and a medium apple (98 cal) for 396 total calories.

In this scenario you're trading out the carbs in the cottage cheese, apple and sweet potato, for the fats found in the chicken skin and coconut oil.

Remember CCO is fat, not water...it DOES have quite a few calories which can quickly add up if you're not careful.

Good luck!
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Congrats!
I've just started using coconut oil as well. I'm not sure what the recommended dosage is. I take about 1 tbsp. day. Perhaps I should up it to 2-3?

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The combination of the coconut oil and low-carb diet has no doubt changed the way your body metabolizes food. You're prolly in ketosis, where the body burns fatty acids (like coconut oil) for fuel, rather than carbs. Plus you've been keeping your calories down and exercising.

All rather remarkable.
Congratulations on finding something that works for you... keep up the good work!

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I started faithfully using coconut oil two weeks ago. It is a challenge when counting calories, but I am determined to keep at it. I am currently digesting 2-3 tbsp a day. Has it made a difference? Well, this week for the first time in over a year, I have had to remove layers of clothing while attending my cardio class. And for me that has been a huge thing. Most of the last year (spring-summer-fall-winter) I have worn an undershirt, followed by a t-shirt followed by a heavy hoodie AND sometimes I have even worn gloves (LOL). But of my 6 days of cardio classes I was able to remove the hoodie and gloves. As well, I am finding that I am not as cold at home and have removed the scarf I normally wear indoors as well as an extra fleece jacket. I cant use the excuse that the weather is warming up, cause it is still cold here and snowing every day (Curses to Mother Nature and the Weather Gods). These are indications that something is changing with my metabolism. Is it the coconut oil or is it the move to a low-carb diet or a combination of the two? Not sure, but I am going to keep on doing what I am doing right now and that includes the coconut oil...because this last week I also lost two pounds. Woohoo.

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Don't forget, Hashimoto's is a malfunction of the immune system... its making antibodies to two substances needed to make thyroid hormone... an enzyme TPO (thyroid peroxidase) and the protein Thyroglobulin.

There's nothing "wrong" with our thyroids... there's something wrong with our immune systems.


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Purr, explain please.

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repair....no. supplementing function, of course!

If you get stressed out eat some catnip and go to sleep

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Thanks for the contribution, GW!

IMO coconut oil is best used as a substitute for other fats in our diet... not necessarily eaten off a spoon as a "medicine". . 2 tablespoons of coconut oil is 117cal a tablespoon x2 =234 calories, and that's if its an even tablespoon, not a rounded one.

Coconut oil is a medium chain fatty acid. It can be used for energy.
A person eating a balanced diet usually uses carbohydrates as an energy source.
People on low carb diets, whose bodies are in ketosis, can utilize protein and fat for energy.

Don't forget, all excess calories are stored as fat... coconut oil isn't exempt from this rule.

Some people like it on toast in place of butter.
Some cook eggs in it.
I like to stir fry my veggies in coconut oil.

GW, I saw you read the article about vitamin C and thyroid meds.
Some other tips:
1. Drink distilled water, use it to prepare your foods. Some tap water has excess amounts of dissolved minerals which will prevent your body from absorbing your thyroid medication.
2. Time your thyroid pill properly... wait 60 minutes before eating, make sure you're not having a bowl of vitamin/iron/mineral fortified cereal with milk(cow or soy) for breakfast as vitamins and minerals interfere and should be taken 4 hours away from your thyroid meds. Take estrogen, HRT, BC pills at the opposite end of the day. Keep your med away from other prescription meds.
3. Take your thyroid meds with a FULL 8 oz glass of water as it needs to get to the jejunum (middle intestine) before it is absorbed.
4. Take a probiotic, or eat naturally fermented foods. Our guts help convert T4 to the active T3 in the intestines. Healthy gut flora will assist with this task.
5. Make sure you're getting a daily source of selenium in your diet. I use Brazil Nuts. Selenium helps convert T4 to T3.

Hope you can use some of these tricks...
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Hi Ladies,

I have spoke to some ladies in the Coconut forum I am in, and a few are hypo and said that they use 1 TBSP a day. The neat thing about coconut oil is although it is extra calories, the coconut oil is easily metabolized in the liver and helps rev up metabolism. Some call it "warming" the thyroid. Not only that, Dr. Mercola says that coconut oil "helps in rebuilding cell membranes and increasing enzyme production that will assist in promoting the conversion of T4 to T3 hormones. "(http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articl
es/archive/2003/11/08/thyroid-health-p
art-two.aspx) In that article, there is a section that talks about a time frame to see results. I will get my coconut oil on Tuesday, start it Wednesday, and report back on how it helps when I start to see a change.

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I would like to know this also.

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Great infor to know how much should you take

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I have had Hashimoto's Thyroiditis for around 7 yrs? I have read some on coconut oil and incorporated into my diet. Can't say I am cured, but probably not taking a therapeutic amount.
Did you see how much you should take, and how long before you might see results? I thought I had read 3Tbsp a day. (they say that works for altizmers also).
Three Tbsp a day is a lot of calories. I have worked on cleaning up my diet and the chemicals I use on my body. But I still have symptoms

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Hi all,

Are there any hypothyroid or anyone with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis that has used coconut oil successfully to repair your thyroid function? I am on a very high dose of medication and I am looking for natural ways to reduce my need for the medication.

Thanks!

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