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You can use a swimming pool test kit to test your tap water for chlorine.
Adding the crystalline vitamin C to your bath water gets rid of it, and chloramines, too.
I have a vitamin C filter on my shower that does an okay job. Doesn't really remove all of it but there comes a point where there's a diminishing rate of return and you've entered neurotic territory! haha

The prob in my area is that occasionally we will get e. coli in the water... Public Works increases the chlorine to kill it. As bad as the chlorine was, the chloramines were far worse. Those are the ones associated with cancer... specifically Bladder Cancer which is what my youngest sister passed away from. Since she and I swim in the same gene pool it makes sense for me to avoid it.

I've been drinking distilled ever since getting the last bacterial contamination letter from my City several years ago.

My City also adds fluoride... I get plenty of that from drinking tea and fluoride is bad for the thyroid and adult bones. Good for the teeth... as toothpaste, in the water is overkill.

I used to buy a couple bottles of wine every week when I grocery shopped, now pick up 9 gallons of water, make all my food and tea from it. Much better for my particular circumstances.

My philosophy is that Life it just too sweet to worry about this when there are easy inexpensive workarounds available.

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You would think you would smell that much chlorine! I'm from coastal NJ and the water here Isn't perfect, but it doesn't smell like chlorine.

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I read a year or so ago, that the estimated amount of chlorine you absorb through your skin in the time it takes you to have a shower, is equivalent to drinking 2 full glasses of chlorinated water! I was shocked at that statistic.

Has anyone else seen anything about this or its accuracy?

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I dont use artificial sweetners,i read a article one time about splenda.they use chlorine to make it.also when it was first made it was suppossed to be a pesticide.but the guy who was working on it thought his boss said taste when he said test it.so i dont use any artificial sweatners.they scare the hell out of me.

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Hi for the laundry she uses,borax,washing soda,felsnappatha. and water.all of these she found in the laundry isle..are you on pinterest there are a lot of recipes for natural things.

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Hey 5!
Thanks for sharing your daughter's recipe... I bought the ingredients and am going to be fooling around with it in my wash. I've got a front loader, so I need very little soap to begin with. I've also experimented with using vinegar and borax... that seems to work fine and I don't need very much. I may skip the soap in your recipe as our Texas waters are extremely hard. Soap might combine with the minerals in it and form scum.

Hey Keeper!
Glad you found us!
There's a lot of tips and tricks in my blogs, should you care to peruse them.
The vitamin C bath is great, even better if you add 2 cups of Epson salts and soak at least 20 minutes in it. Super for sore muscles.

If you really want to get wild, you can use Triphala as a body scrub instead of soap.
I'd check that one on one arm before using all over, on the odd chance that you might have a reaction.

Triphala is a blend of 3 Ayurvedic Herbs that have antiseptic and astrigent properties... full of antioxidants /vitamin C... exfoliates your skin and invigorates it. Traditionally its used internally, but I used it one day after a particularly grimy session in the garden, and haven't used soap since.

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Hi. Just wanted to let you know that I was researching various related subjects on the 'net and it actually led me to your posting here. I had never heard of this "spark" site before but it seems pretty nifty so I joined it. Thanks to you and this post I reckon. Oh, and I almost forgot....I took a vitamin C-enhanced bath this morning for the first time. How cool!


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My daughter is very sensitive to chemicals,so now she makes all our dish washer detergent,shampoo and conditioner,tooth paste,laundry detergent and she makes shower cleaner and general cleaner.she uses borax,vinegar,castle soap and it makes a big difference for all of us.espically for my asthma the spray cleaner were bothering it.

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hey SRH~

Welcome to our team, glad you found us!

I have switched to distilled water, all that's in there is water and 88 cents a gallon at Walmart.
I add a bit of diatomaceous earth, which adds silica and trace minerals, helps reduce LDL cholesterol, and it good for skin, bones and hair.
It does make the water cloudy, and you do have to shake it before pouring but o well.
I make all my food using this.

Our city water is fluoridated, fluoride is not a good thing for the thyroid, being a halogen, it can't be removed by conventional water filtration systems.

Just one more reason to drink distilled water!

Something else I do to remove chlorine from tap water, such as when I am washing veggies, is to run the water into a large bowl, add a bit of vitamin C powder. This removes chlorine instantly and chloramines in about 5 minutes. I don't wait that long, I usually put my veggies in to soak right away.

Have a fun day!
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Thanks for posting that cholorine is bad for your thyroid levels!!! I did NOT know this and have been drinking out of the facet for over 10 years.....despite us buying a brita pitcher during that time! I started drinking the brita water instead of the facet water yesterday and i SWEAR I already feel somewhat better!! So thanks for posting! I just joined this team not but a few days ago but am learning SO much!!! I am so grateful that I joined sparkpeople.com and am looking forward to learning more about what yall have to say about things that work for your thyroid and what doesn't! Thanks!!! emoticon


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Welcome to our team, Mrx TLC!
You may want to check out some of my blogs as the majority of them are info oriented.
Love your sig pic!

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Thanks so much for posting this. I've only been here a few moments and have already learned a lot!emoticon

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Bumble,

Yes, chlorine is a halogen, along with fluoride and bromines... they compete with iodine in the thyroid and tissues of the body where its used like the breast and salivary glands.

Chloramine is a suspected cancinogen, and is often in our water at a much higher rate than chlorine. Vitamin C removes this as well... not instantly the way it does chlorine, but within a few minutes.

I blogged about it a while back.
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_
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Here's something to help with removal in the shower:
www.sparkpeople.com/mypage_public_journal_
individual.asp?blog_id=3976935


Another tip is if you ever spill chlorine bleach on your hands or clothes, putting them immediately under running water to get off the excess, followed by rubbing a small about of pure crystalline C into it, rinsing.... will neutralize the bleach immediately.

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I had never heard about the chlorine/hypothyroid connection before. Thank you. You have spurred me on to do some research on the subject.

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5eregon!

All you need to get rid of chlorine is a pepper corn sized ball of pure vitamin C to a gallon of water... its instantaneous removal and it gets the chloramines, too.

C is also wonderful for your adrenal glands.

Pure C is available at your health food store and online.
A little goes a long way.

Try it!

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i am so glad i saw this article.i used to only drink bottled water,but my daughter bought a Brita.im going to check to see if it gets rid of chlorine.another thing to have to watch out for.

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You did the smart thing to get out of your car and walk around... and to get a bump back up to the 125mcg.

Yes, the proper way of taking your thyroid meds is on a empty stomach, with a FULL glass of water (to get your medication to the jejenum, which is the middle intestine... a lonnng way for a small pill to travel so that's why you need the full 8 oz). And wait one hour to eat, 4 hours to take prescription meds, vitamins and minerals, supplements, any sort of medicine inclusive of OTC things like antiacids.

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Been reading about the med dosages some of you guys are on. I was on 125mcg daily. Only about a year ago I read about the med being taken on an empty stomach. I have read anywhere from 1 to 4 hours post dose to eat. I had substernal goiters removed in 1990. Have been on thyroid meds (there is a genetic predisposition) ever since. My MD lowered my dose to 112mcg but it had disasterous results. Driving home from my sisters (75mi) I couldn't stay awake. I was scared to death. Stopped about every 10 miles to wallk around to wake myself up. Did not drive alone and didn't associate problem with lowered dose of thyroid med at first. Am now back to the 125mcg without further problems.



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Great and informative post and replies. Thank you all :)

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LOL
Ya we'd have to call you Sue instead of Laurpud!

The chlorine might have been what pushed you over the edge into hypothyroid disease... or caused it to flair... there's no real way of knowing. Thats how it seems to go with allergies and immune problems, you'll be okay for decades, but then there comes a tipping point of no return.

I detest the smell of chlorine, always have since childhood. It just smells... deadly.
Our community pool reeked of it... burned our eyes... I much preferred swimming in the resevoir in the woods behind our house because I could swim in it without a bathing cap but mostly because I wasn't allowed to! ha

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I add the ascorbic acid to my water on MZZCHIEF's advice, & I've been thinking about the chlorine/thyroid link.
Here's what I've been meaning to ask: When I was a teenager, my mother & I lived in Plainville, CT., where the water was so heavily chlorinated that when the bathtub was filled, the bathroom smelled like an indoor pool. You could smell it in a glass of water!
I developed my hypo problem within months of moving there (hindsight being 20/20), so I'm obviously wondering if you think there 's a link to my hypothyroidism & that water.
Don't worry, I'm not planning on suing the city!

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Thanks everyone for your comments!

Birdy, that water in NY sounds awful, but it seems as it you're making the best of a bad situation by purchasing water to drink. I don't know if your filtration system removes chlorine. I agree with what Elles said, you'd be best off checking the manufacturer's specifications for your particular unit.

Alternately, you can always go to a pool store and buy a kit to check Chlorine and find out for yourself by testing a sample of your tap water.

Elles, I love your cleaning solutions! Bet your home smells delightful after a cleaning!
I am a huge fan of distilled vinegar, I buy it by the gallon. Not the best smell on its own, but I find that it actually seems to get rid of any cooking odors when I mop my floor or clean the grout with it.

Hydrogen peroxide is another stable here too.. its good for so many things, including cleaning one's teeth... diluted of course and followed by a baking soda rinse to return the alkaline status of the mouth!

Great caveat about hexane and other neurotoxic solvents used to extract essential oils! Cold pressed organic is definitely the best way to go... we don't want to be replacing one problem with another! ha

Thx for the informative post... always something new to learn from the collective wisdom of our team members.

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thanks for the info it is awesome and explains so much

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Thanks so much Mzzchief, I wasn't aware of the impact on thyroid. Great info.

I've noticed that today's water purifiers remove all or at least most chlorine depending on the brand. You'll have to check with your manufacturer to see what percentage yours removes since Culligan also manufactures water softeners.

Studies that say chlorine isn't bad for us have not taken into account that it's the chemicals that chlorine naturally and quickly breaks down into such as dioxin, etc when exposed to air or sunlight that makes it so toxic. Chlorine always breaks down into these chemicals so you can't avoid them if you use chlorine.

I mix equal parts of baking soda and hydrogen peroxide in place of chlorine for bleaching. I use diluted oregano oil and lavender oil or boiling water or 5% vinegar or Real Lemon instead of chlorine products for disinfecting. Vinegar and Real Lemon is too acid for microbes (viruses & bacteria) to survive. Wiping down counters, door handles, floors, refrigerators, etc with a couple of drops of oregano or lavender oil in a quart of water makes the kitchen and bathroom smell fresh. They, along with other herbs like thyme are anti-microbial so they disinfect everything and are usually some of the cheapest essential oils at health food stores. Try to buy the cold pressed oils other wise they usually contain neurotoxic solvents used to extract the essential oil out of the herbs.


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I live in a rural community in Central NY. There was a landfill one road over which was eventually closed and there were rumors that dioxin was found as a by product of mfg. waste and the environment. The water smells bad, and I have not used it for drinking or cooking for years. I purchase water by the gallon at my local Walmart using the Culligan refill station. I am curious to know if this purification process they use removes the chlorine. I can't smell or taste it. In Florida I have a central water filtration system, I am pretty sure this removes the chlorine. Anyone know for sure?



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hey Team!

I've blogged about this quite a bit in the past, but felt it was time to bring this problem and its solution to everyone's attention here on the our forum... in a thread all of its own. I've read so many articles about this, its become a part of my knowledge base, so if you are interested in verifying anything I've written here or want greater detail, simply put "Chlorine ascorbic acid" into a search engine and read for yourself... there's plenty of articles out there on the topic!

Chlorine is a chemical familiar to everyone. as Chlorox... its used in our homes to bleach our clothes and to sanitize surfaces. Municipalities add to our water supply, to keep it relatively free from bacteria and safe to drink. Its discovery and widespread use was a boon for the general public, making water bourne diseases such as Cholera a thing of the past.

But like with many good things, its not perfect...in the process of adding Chlorine to our water supply, a second substance is produced, Chloramine, which is thought to be a carcinogen. Some cities actually add Chloramine to their water in lieu of Chlorine. And chloride itself, being a halogen, interferes with the production of thyroid hormone... which is why I'm bringing this up on our Thyroid Forum.

Anyone that's had a fish tank before, knows that chlorine.... and the persistant form of it, Chloramine... needs to be removed before fish can be introduced to the water. Failure to do so will weaken or kill the fish.

What you may not know, is that water that is used for kidney dialysis, needs to have these substances removed before being used on the patient because of its toxicity.

In short Chlorine and Chloramines are super for protecting the water supply from pathogens, but once that water arrives at your home, its no longer needed. Since it isn't the best thing for you or your thyroid... why not remove it?

Luckily there's a simple way to clear your water, using of ascorbic acid, otherwise known as vitamin C.

It takes a surprisingly small amount... the size of a peppercorn to a gallon of water... to get the Chlorine and the more persistant Chloramine out. Removal becomes a simple affair of running tap water into a glass jug, and adding a small amount... then using this water for drinking and preparing foods. Adding a quarter teaspoon to your bath water will dechlorinate the entire tubful...there are vitamin C filters for shower heads if you want to go that route. Me...I add a small amount to my rosemary spray mix and use it after the shower. Its also great for getting Chlorine out of your hair after you've been in the pool... or the smell of it off your skin... just a little added to water and used as a final rinse will do the trick.



Pure ascorbic acid is available online or at your health food store. It comes as a powder, without any binders or fillers.

One caveat... more is not better... you want to remove the Chlorine and Chloramine, not overdose on ascorbic acid.

You may want to try this one, particularly if you drink a lot of tap water or have a problem with midrift bloating as the day wears on.

Here's a link to pure ascorbic acid crystals:




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