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GSNIDER40
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5/14/12 10:10 P

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"...do you just automatically start running differently...?"

I would like to say yes. But it takes practice. Old habits are hard to change. But when you don't have any cushion on your foot (especially your heel), you will change your stride just because if you don't, you'll hurt yourself!

But I don't want to focus on the negative. If you do it right, it doesn't hurt - it feels good. Well, I have to qualify that statement, too. It takes time to get to that point. Your feet are weak from being in shoes all the time. It takes time to toughen them up. But you'll get there. And when you do, you feel like a kid again.

Here is a good website:

http://www.vivobarefoot.com/us/barefoot/

VivoBareFoot is a company that makes minimalist shoes. I do not own any of their products. But looking at their website, maybe I will! The website is a great place for education on this topic. click around and read some of their articles.

There is an article from Runners World (many people place a lot of importance on that magazine. "I read it in Runners World...")

They have a free eBook down load called Proprioception: Making sense of Barefoot Running. I read that - very good. It is not information that promotes their product. It is information that promotes barefoot running. It tells you want to expect and how to get from here to there.


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5/14/12 7:45 P

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So do you just automatically start running differently because of the change in footwear? Do you have to focus on doing it differently?

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Yesterday I ran 5 miles total. 1.25 miles to get to the trail, 2.5 miles on the trail and 1.25 back home. The 1.25 section I wore my VFFs. The 2.5 section was literally barefoot. No problems, but I did notice my form / foot strike was different even with that small change. (the "trail" is our town's greenway bike path along the river.. I ran on the concrete path portion.)

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5/14/12 8:13 A

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Some other observations:

It's hard to "get started" barefoot running because if you are already running 25+ miles per week or so, it is hard to dial it back to short/small enough distances to learn a new form all over again. The first time you do it, you'll run a quarter mile and think, this isn't so bad. You'll do more and pay for it the next day.

Your calves will be sore. You'll have a new stride and new mechanics and your calves will be sore.

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Very interesting blog, thanks Glen.

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Interesting blog! Thanks for re-posting it.



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5/13/12 12:51 P

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With credit to my friend, Chris Russell of the RunRunLive podcast (www.runrunlive.com), here is blog from him dated May 8 about his barefoot experience. Very insightful:

Losing my bare foot virginity.

Ow! It hurts!

I’m experimenting with running without shoes on. Just my bare feet against the world. I come to this as a veteran runner, marathoner, triathlete, cyclists etc. I’ve spun a few rotations of mother earth beneath my feet. Until this point my world and the actual world have been separated by lugs and leather and blown foam of one sort or another.

I find myself in the unique position of being able to report on the answer to the question, “What happens when a old guy who’s been running high volume competitively for years takes off his shoes? Up to this point in my life this wasn’t an option for me because I’d have to step down from my mileage and give up my race goals to make the transition.

Since I’m an inherently lucky guy who is deeply loved by the universe I have been given the opportunity to try something new. The only way for an existing mid-packer, like Moi, to learn bare foot running is to start as if from the beginning with extremely low mileage and strengthening exercises. This was my first lesson.

You can’t ‘jump into’ barefoot running. You have to give your feet a chance to get used to it. You have to give your legs a chance to learn the new form. If you just jump into it you’ll tear all the skin off of your feet and give yourself stress fractures. But if you’re willing to start with 100 meters of running and work up from there over 3-6 months, well, anyone can do that.

I’m 2-3 weeks into my foot strengthening activities. I started with some short barefoot strides in the grass. I worked in some longer barefoot walks with the dog. I’m up to 2km every other day with the dog, but the cool thing is that I’m learning something new about running. Think about that. I guy my age, with my running resume, learning like a child in the wilderness. That’s cool.

What have a learned so far? First thing I learned is that you may think you have an efficient stride but barefoot is a whole other ball game. I quickly discovered that although I’m a neutral mid-foot runner I’m also lazy. When the heel is there, you use it. When you don’t have shoes on you quickly learn not to EVER use the heels. Why? Because it hurts like hell!

Second thing I discovered was that I thought I had pretty good cadence but with barefoot, especially on the road I have to be 2 times quicker with my steps. This is the only way to avoid over stressing the Achilles and pounding the forefoot. In my normal stride I’ll pause on the foot strike, flex down into the impact and toe off with force. You can’t do that in barefoot. Want to know why? Because it hurts like hell! You have to take tiny, rapid steps like you are running on hot coals because it feels like you’re running on hot coals!

The third thing I’m learning is that my body is capable of building its own shoes. I’ve noticed that as my foot pads get sore and recover they are not doing so in a blanket fashion. They are not growing a new surface area like the bottom of a shoe. They are growing new areas specifically to how my foot hits the ground. My feet are constructing new shoes specifically for my stride mechanics. That’s pretty cool.

The final learning I’ll share with you today is that I am amazed at how fast my feet are changing. Our bodies are amazing and my feet are amazing. After on 2-3 weeks of exercise my feet are getting bigger and wider. Put this in perspective of the 49 years they have been wrapped up in shoes (except for a few summers when I was a kid) and it is another amazing testament to the adaptability of our bodies. They are a well engineered machine.

I’m still running defensively and it still hurts like hell, but I’m seeing glimpses of overlap with my running past. I feel the power of my legs and feet on those uphills in the trails. I feel the joy of sweat and a raised heart rate as I mince along grimacing through the woods. I get to join Buddy in the mud at the stream crossings and the spring melt water feels so good on my sore feet. He can’t quite figure out what I’m doing yet, but he’s all for it, whatever it is.

Reporting from the front lines of this running life I’m here to tell you that bare foot running is not a panacea to your injuries and your race times but it is a cool experiment and hopefully a living, learning, bridge to my recovery.

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5/13/12 12:49 P

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Couple of things:

1. "I also have very sensitive feet, I never walk around my house barefoot. I always have something on my feet."

Me, too. I have sensitive feet. But that is changing with my barefoot style. But, keep in mind, I have something on my feet. the VFF or the New Balance Minimus (there are other brands, too. Those are simply the two I have.) provide protection for the flesh. I don't have to worry about stickers, rocks, glass, anything. Yea, you gotta watch your step, but just like anything else.

2. "I feel like I need the cushioned sole for my knees and ankles. Does using them make any difference on the joints?"

I think it is better for my joints. Even though I know what "good form" is from my barefoot running, when I put on my cushioned shoes, it is hard for me to use that mid/fore foot form. I naturally revert back to being a heel striker. That is what is hard on your knees, ankles and joints. When I run barefoot, I use my body's natural suspension - almost no jarring. If you do, you'll know it. It hurts! You won't do it again.

That has been my experience. Others may disagree. Seems counter-intuitive. But it works for me. It's not for everyone. If you're going to give it a try, start slow and give it some time.

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I agreee that the shoes are very important and worth evry penny that you spend on them.

Barefoot/Five Finger? I just don't know much about them, but I see them a lot. I feel like I need the cushioned sole for my knees and ankles. Does using them make any difference on the joints?
I also have very sensitive feet, I never walk around my house barefoot. I always have something on my feet.

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When I say "barefoot", I usually mean that I run with Vibram Five Finger (VFF) "shoes" - you know, those goofy-looking toe shoes. I also use New Balance Minimus shoes (with an enclosed toe box, but the same concepts - 0% drop from heel to toe and enough room for the toes to spread out and act independently).

The point is, I usually have some type of protection on my flesh. My feet have always been tender when walking barefoot.

However, I have run a few times literally barefoot - that really takes some "breaking in" time. I'll to do more of that this summer.

BUT, I say all of that to say on a gravel road, I think one of the minimalist style shoes would work fine - providing some protection to your foot while providing the barefoot experience.

I grew up on a farm in Kansas, so I know what gravel/dirt roads are all about!

Interestingly, on a podcast I was listening to about barefoot running, the question was asked "what is a good surface for barefoot running". The answer surprised me. The guest said a concrete sidewalk is a good surface for barefoot running. When I run in traditional cushioned shoes, I avoid a concrete sidewalk like the plague. Too much impact (from my heel striking) compared to a dirt or grass surface. Her reasoning is that a concrete sidewalk provides a flat, predictable surface and if you have proper barefoot running form, you do not have any impact regardless of the surface. My experience bares that out. I've barefoot on grass, dirt, trails and hard surfaces. I like a concrete sidewalk best!

Amazing!

I routinely run 5 - 8 - 10 miles in my VFF. I'll increase that mileage even more this summer when I'm into heavier training.

Edited by: GSNIDER40 at: 5/12/2012 (17:54)
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Interesting info, Glen. Thanks for cluing me in. Might try it, might not : ) I live in the country and our roads are graveled with pretty coarse gravel. Not an appealing thought at this point : )


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Barefoot running is not for everyone. I have not given up my traditional cushioned shoes. But honestly, I can't remember the last time I wore them. It takes time to make the transition. But for me, I've experienced a lot of positive things from it. My stride is shorter. I land mid to to fore foot. I DO NOT heel strike now. My cadence has gone up (about 93-95 "beats" per minute (per foot) vs. a "normal" of about 85-87 with shoes. My pace has gone up - meaning I'm running faster. (that's like me telling my wife, will you turn the air conditioning up? Am I asking her to raise or lower the temperature?). What I think is most interesting is when I ran with traditional shoes I would hang my head and look at the ground three feet in front of me. Running barefoot, my head is over my shoulders and I'm looking out at the horizon.

I have been blogging about my experience running barefoot ( and other things) at www.GlenESnider.com

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5/11/12 9:59 P

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Truth be known, I'm intrigued by the barefoot/minimal shoe phenomenon. I think I went barefoot from May to October till I finally got a summer job at age 17 : )



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...unless you are a barefoot runner... :)

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Yesss! except, here in north central BC, you won't get a good pair of runners for $60 unless you hit a *really* good sale : )
More like $100 : (


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4. wear good running shoes

"Spend at least $60. A good pair of running shoes should last you 400 to 500 miles and is one of the most critical purchases you will make." John Hanc, author of The Essential Runner



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the above running tip I recently found in a men’s health article, but I am sure they are the same tips that were published in runners world some time ago
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